Bundesliga 2015/2016

I already wrote it in a different thread, this is the lineup I'd like to see tested: http://www.footballuser.com/1428824/Germany

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I think Khedira, Gündogan could turn out unbalanced in midfield,
Müller should be our nominal striker imho, I think our other attackers seem ineffective there. Aside from maybe Götze, but I still think he's better in midfield.
I don't see Ginter as a RB anymore, he's likely to be a defensive liability (especially against quick players) and his impressive attacking record is heavily influenced by Dortmund's style of their first matches: overload the left (half-)space then quickly switch the ball to the now exposed right flank where as a result Ginter has loads of space. However teams have adapted to this (6 man back lines etc) and Dortmund in general have become a lot more flexible in their build up patterns and as a result Ginter is now probably only third choice RB behind Durm and Piszczek and he hasn't scored or assisted since November (compared to two goals, 7 assists in the league before that).
 
do.ob said:
I already wrote it in a different thread, this is the lineup I'd like to see tested: http://www.footballuser.com/1428824/Germany
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I agree with most of that, Hummels + Boateng should change sides though. And I still think Höwedes should play leftback and Kimmich given a chance at rightback. But I'd like to see that midfield. I'd place Kroos deeper though, similar to how he played deeper than Khedira at the World Cup most of the time.
 
i dont see any reason why hector should be ahead of durm...
if its in a 4 row as a lb or rb, or in a system where he would play more forward makes no difference. durm played both under tuchel and was great.
but again..its löw, so why iam talking about this...will never understand some decisions he make.
 
Balu said:
I agree with most of that, Hummels + Boateng should change sides though. And I still think Höwedes should play leftback and Kimmich given a chance at rightback. But I'd like to see that midfield. I'd place Kroos deeper though, similar to how he played deeper than Khedira at the World Cup most of the time.
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Oh yes, that wasn't intentional I just put them down without thinking. Of course Hummels as the left CB would make more sense. I'd also liked to have seen Kimmich, but maybe it's too late to prove himself as a starter now? I would see both Gündogan and Kroos with a certain amount of vertical freedom in that formation.
 
Balu said:
I was really impressed with Lars Bender yesterday. Maybe he could be a solution for our midfield problem for the Euro? Somehow Löw never really liked either of the Benders to give them regular playing time in the nationalteam, but out of all the possible options he might be the best fit as a defensive midfield allrounder to fill the void Schweinsteiger leaves behind. If he continues to play well for the rest of the season, maybe he'll get a chance in one of the pre-Euro friendlies.

I still like Leverkusen's midfield a lot. If they all can stay healthy and find some form, it's truely awesome. Bender, Kramer, Aranguiz as the more defensive and Arnold, Calhanoglu, Kampl as more attacking options is a wonderful variety of players. All offer something different, all are quality (not necessary elite level of course, but still at least good).

They fecked up a bit during the season and were crippled by injuries, but overall the squad really is talented. If they can make it into the top 4 and keep the team mostly together, I'd like to see what they can do next season.
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Too bad Aranguiz got that stupid injury. I was looking forward to watching him play in Europe. Absolutely immense player in the WC and Copa America.
 
PedroMendez said:
When is he going to be back?
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Aranguiz? He was part of the squad yesterday against Wolfsburg as far as I know. At least that's what Schmidt said in his press conference on Thursday.
 
Ingolstadt is doing an immense job by the way. They're much more than just a tough and agressive defensive side, such a well drilled and brilliantly organised team. Lezcano was a brilliant buy in January, he helped them a lot in attack, but they still need a better goalscorer. Also, the old Matip is playing a much better season than his younger brother for Schalke.

I don't think anyone in their team really stands out, so maybe they can actually keep that team together and slowly build on it. But as usual the second season in the Bundesliga is mcuh more difficult than the first one.
 
That win was absolutely crucial. After getting nothing in the last weeks despite playing well we finally moved out of the danger zone a little. Could've easily lost today, but nothing is going Hannovers way at the moment.
 
Frasbul said:
Dortmund play without Sokratis and Hummels. Instead Bender and Ginter are playing. Could get interesting.
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In particular because there's no CB on the bench if a sub may be required (Hummels - 'red zone' after NT spell; Sokratis - GI bug; Subotic - thrombosis in the arm).
 
He just won't stop scoring, ffs. 1-0 Auba. Can't they draw or lose a game for a change :mad:.

 
Everybody saying Ramos purchase was a bust. He´s having a scorer´s point roughly every 36 minutes in the Bundesliga. Best sub in Europe. :eek:
 
Gladbach 4-0 up now against Hertha. Hertha's last 5 games are really difficult, they needed a draw today to secure their CL spot in my opinion. And this result hurts their goaldifference as well. The next game against Hannover is easy and they should win that, but after that they play:

Hoffenheim (a)
Bayern (h)
Leverkusen (a)
Darmstadt (h)
Mainz (a)

Wouldn't be surprised if they fail to win any of those games. Maybe I continue to underrate them, but they're only 3 points ahead of Leverkusen and Gladbach right now and both Mainz and Schalke are only 1 point further behind. And I don't think they've been as convincing since the winterbreak as they were in the first half of the season. Wolfsburg need a hell of a finish to the season if they want to finish in the top 7 (or top 6 depending on who wins the cup, but I expect a Dortmund-Bayern final, so 7th place would be enough to reach the EL qualifiers) and play in Europe next season.
 
5-0 now (as well as Herrmann hitting the post), Gladbach is putting them to the sword

I wouldn't really mind if Hertha don't make top 4. They'd probably get slaughtered in the CL.
 
do.ob said:
5-0 now (as well as Herrmann hitting the post), Gladbach is putting them to the sword

I wouldn't really mind if Hertha don't make top 4. They'd probably get slaughtered in the CL.
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If they finish 3rd, I don't mind really. They deserve the chance and maybe they could actually push on and give us a somewhat quality Berlin football club for a change. The city really should have one, even though the people in Berlin don't care all that much about it.

If they finish 4th, I could easily see them lose in the playoff for the group stages because they'll be unseeded and will get a difficult opponent. It would suck if we had only 3 German teams in the CL group stages. But whatever, it's not like Gladbach did really well this season. Although they did play good football and were unlucky to finish 4th in the most difficult group they could have gotten. I'd really like to see Gladbach in the CL again though. Eberl is doing a great job and even if they have to sell Xhaka, they should have lots of money and hopefully can improve further and establish themselves in the top 4. I really have a soft spot for Gladbach, by far my favourite rival.
 
Balu said:
If they finish 3rd, I don't mind really. They deserve the chance and maybe they could actually push on and give us a somewhat quality Berlin football club for a change. The city really should have one, even though the people in Berlin don't care all that much about it.
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:lol:

There is no way they will be able to come even close to what they did this season. Even though most results are going their way in the 2nd half of the season they are nowhere near as convincing as they were in the beginning. Their squad is mediocre and the club will not have the pulling power to bring in quality players despite offering European football. I expect them to finish 10th at best.
 
Balu said:
If they finish 3rd, I don't mind really. They deserve the chance and maybe they could actually push on and give us a somewhat quality Berlin football club for a change. The city really should have one, even though the people in Berlin don't care all that much about it.

If they finish 4th, I could easily see them lose in the playoff for the group stages because they'll be unseeded and will get a difficult opponent. It would suck if we had only 3 German teams in the CL group stages. But whatever, it's not like Gladbach did really well this season. Although they did play good football and were unlucky to finish 4th in the most difficult group they could have gotten. I'd really like to see Gladbach in the CL again though. Eberl is doing a great job and even if they have to sell Xhaka, they should have lots of money and hopefully can improve further and establish themselves in the top 4. I really have a soft spot for Gladbach, by far my favourite rival.
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I think they are punching far above their weight this season and imo even CL money likely won't save them next season. I also wonder how much growth potential the club really has when even in such an amazing (by their own standards) season they don't even come close to selling out their stadium most of the time and there is talk about building a much smaller one.
 
do.ob said:
I think they are punching far above their weight this season and imo even CL money likely won't save them next season. I also wonder how much growth potential the club really has when even in such an amazing (by their own standards) season they don't even come close to selling out their stadium most of the time and there is talk about building a much smaller one.
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The olympic stadium is awful to be fair. It's pretty much the same problem we had and we struggled to sell out the olympic stadium in Munich. Give them a proper new football stadium with 60000 seats and they'll sell it out regularly. Bayern averaged 52.000 in 04/05 and only sold out twice in the entire season, then we moved to the Allianz Arena for the next season, sold out every game ever since with the 67000 average in the beginning and with the small extensions soon up to 69000 and now 75000. Even during our super successful period under Hitzfeld we only sold out 5-6 times each season and never came close to a 60000 average.

Of course there are other factors important as well, but it's a major one. As beautiful as these old olympic stadiums are, they're a fecking disaster as football grounds. You're so far away from the pitch and the atmosphere sucks.

I agree that they're punching far above their weight of course and that they'll struggle next season, but it's not their fault. If they pull it off and finish 3rd, they deserve a chance to show if they can use it as a big step forward and continue to build on it.
 
Schaaf sacked. No idea why they didn't do it two weeks a go before the international break.
 
gofelx said:
Schaaf sacked. No idea why they didn't do it two weeks before the international break.
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It was pointless back then and it's pointless now. They deserved to go down last season just for appointing Frontzeck, they deserve to go down this season for keeping Frontzeck for this season after he managed the unthinkable and kept them up last season. And giving the job to Schaaf in January, who has been shit for years now and has no clue what tactics to use in a relegation fight made it even worse. It's over now, goodbye Martin Kind. I hope we won't see you ever again in the Bundesliga.
 
Does Chelsea have a buyback option for the better Hazard? I always wonder how these options would be enforced in a real working enviroment. What if T. Hazard simply says: I don´t want to work for you. Slavery is abolished, right?
 
JustFootballFan said:
Does Chelsea have a buyback option for the better Hazard? I always wonder how these options would be enforced in a real working enviroment. What if T. Hazard simply says: I don´t want to work for you. Slavery is abolished, right?
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I think so, 25m in 2017 if I remember correctly. I've no clue if these buyback options can actually be enforced in court. It does sound a bit dodgy if the player doesn't have to agree to it anymore and has to go back even if he doesn't want to.
 
Very interesting as it really does not correspond with the wages of the clubs concerned. What German Bundesliga clubs played to player agents from March 2015 to March 2016

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The publication of agents' earnings is nice but it's difficult to put into perspective without matching it with the number and type of activities in the set timeframe. For example, contract extensions are included.
It has escaped my memory who from Bayern extended during that timeframe but at Dortmund it was PE Aubameyang (plus some probably less costly extensions). Reus' contact extension was just a tad before 15th March '15 and triggers the question if his agent got his commission before or after.

Hoffenheim's figure appears to be high but didn't they have quite a lot of turn over and a contract extension of Kevin Volland?

What I find most interesting is that I learned that since April '15, it has become obligatory per FIFA rules to publish theses figures. Does anybody knows where the corresponding numbers could be looked at for the PL, La Liga, Serie A and Ligue 1? Thanks.
 
Crossie said:
It has escaped my memory who from Bayern extended during that timeframe but at Dortmund it was PE Aubameyang (plus some probably less costly extensions). Reus' contact extension was just a tad before 15th March '15 and triggers the question if his agent got his commission before or after.
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We had quite a lot extensions, Martinez, Thiago, Boateng, Alonso were definitely in that timeframe. Not sure if Alaba's still falls into it, but I think it was after March 15th.
 
Balu said:
We had quite a lot extensions, Martinez, Thiago, Boateng, Alonso were definitely in that timeframe. Not sure if Alaba's still falls into it, but I think it was after March 15th.
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Thanks, Thiago was somewhere on my radar but couldn't recall who else (other than that you had some contract extensions).
 
I know it says 'Spielervermittler', but maybe it's agents in general and the signing of Tuchel and the new coaching staff also counts? Surely there was also an agent involved?
 
Balu said:
I know it says 'Spielervermittler', but maybe it's agents in general and the signing of Tuchel and the new coaching staff also counts? Surely there was also an agent involved?
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You can read my mind, I thought so too but was too lazy to search for the wording of the actual FIFA rule if it specifies what needs to be included.
 
What a shock that Schalke paid the most in agent fees. Heldt is flat out horrible. How anyone can employ this man in a front office position is a mystery to me.
 
Maybe Schalke's numbers are also inflated because Draxler's agent got a piece of the fee Wolfsburg paid? In any case it's not exactly suprising that their numbers seem high given Heldt's faible for signing pseudo cheap players, who probably make up for their relatively low fee in signing bonuses and wages.
 
Schalke fulfill the prejudice but as I've written above without context it's difficult. During that timeframe they got rid of Boateng and di Matteo, both as I remember it via terminating the contract earlier and payed compensation. I wouldn't be surprised if agents get a percentage from those payments as well.
 
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