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Carlo Ancelotti to Bayern for 16/17 | Confirmed
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He is not Simeone/Mourinho boring though. Not exactly gung-ho (like SAF for most of his career), and neither as pleasant for eye (like Pep or Wenger) but still, his teams play decent football.Ffs, if true, getting Ancelotti is kinda boring. The van Bommel + Scholl plan sounded way more entertaining.
I didn't mean his football, his teams play great football. I think he's just too boring as a character and we'd be just another footnote in his career after Juve, Milan, Chelsea, PSG and Real. It's really not a great story, just a very pragmatic decision.
You need to get a life. This is football we're talking about !
BTW - I expect you to be disappointed
According to SportBild via tz, Branchini also played a part in Pep joining Bayern.
http://www.tz.de/sport/fc-bayern/pe...ler-hoeness-bayern-muenchen-meta-2671340.html
A few years ago we would've just opted for someone like Magath. Now that's boring.
You would seriously prefer a Van Bommel/Scholl combination? I agree that it would be entertaining but they'd flop in a hilarious wayFfs, if true, getting Ancelotti is kinda boring. The van Bommel + Scholl plan sounded way more entertaining
Ffs, if true, getting Ancelotti is kinda boring. The van Bommel + Scholl plan sounded way more entertaining
Sure you don't want Bayern to snap up Giggs before he has his break through at United?
Scholl > Giggs, so no.
Ancelotti's style might suit our squad better than Pep's, actually. I remember the direct, punishing football he had Madrid play when they won the CL. Our squad could suit that style to a tee. Also, I won't miss the suicidal high line. If I were a betting man, I'd put a lot of money on that approach costing us dearly this year again when it counts.
I'd also give my left eye for Scholl to manage us. Not because I think he's great as a manager, but it would be hilarious. The squad is good enough to win the league anyway, and we could finally watch pressers again without hearing superlatives heaped upon every single player that can fart without shitting himself.
I'd also give my left eye for Scholl to manage us. Not because I think he's great as a manager, but it would be hilarious. The squad is good enough to win the league anyway, and we could finally watch pressers again without hearing superlatives heaped upon every single player that can fart without shitting himself.
Do the board not realise that no player of note will join us if Giggs is the manager? I know players will earn big money but they won't want to throw their careers away with a rookie manager. For all their big earnings, most the motivation is still to win things.
Finding a problem where there is none
I think that he meant more for the City's owners. Which isn't far off what he said.You need to get a life. This is football we're talking about !
BTW - I expect you to be disappointed
City on the other side, is just a football club, like the other clubs.
Right lets all pack up lads and leave this story to bed, Mr Inconsistent el Prediction has entered the Pep G debate, a heady mixture of fables and complete and uttter codswallop seems to be the highlight of this well known charlatans day.
it's safe to say we're well and truly fecked if Ancelotti goes to Bayern and City then get Pep. We need either a miraculous turnaround from LvG or Giggs to somehow not be a terrible manager. Both of which seem highly unlikely at present.
Well that Ancelotti will end up at Bayern is likelier by the day. Who are they gonna replace Pep with? Ancelotti is the logical choice and he will go there probably.
@Balu wasn't 1860 the bigger club until the 60s? Wouldn't that make Bayern the "upstart club"?
So ironic, that post. Unintentionally, of course.
Does he speak German? That's still the biggest problem for Bayern. Trapattoni was hailed as the new Messiah and failed horribly due to the language barrier. Twice. Guardiola did well, but he also crunched a lot of German for the job.
Feck.
Yet to see the end result but looking increasingly like the United board are about the mess up yet again post-Ferguson.
Yet to see the end result but looking increasingly like the United board are about the mess up yet again post-Ferguson.
Really efficient decision-making by the Bayern board if true. Little to no wasted motion from Heyneckes-> Pep-> Carlo - all of them top managers. Ancelotti might be boring in terms of his character but he is arguably the best man to guide them to another European Cup - that will put them just one short of AC Milan's tally of 7, and Carlo will become the first coach to win it with three different clubs for a total of four. Then they can have Tuchel or Schmidt (if they're much cop that is) take over in 3-4 seasons. Woodward and his minions need to get serious instead of faxing Neymar's dad. At this rate, there'll no one left for us.
The only saving grace will be José intentionally tanking Chelsea to take the United job. /tinfoil.
The only saving grace will be José intentionally tanking Chelsea to take the United job. /tinfoil.
I didn't say it's a problem. Boring can be good, if it's not boring footballFinding a problem where there is none
.I didn't say it's a problem. Boring can be good, if it's not boring football
What about Favre? You think he might still be an option, despite his rather strange Gladbach exit?
If Ancelotti doesn't want to join us, then yes, I guess he'd still be an option. I don't think this season has changed much anyway. He was always a difficult character and he might not want to take a job that brings so much attention from the media with it.
Ffs, if true, getting Ancelotti is kinda boring. The van Bommel + Scholl plan sounded way more entertaining
Sammer taking over coaching duty too would be a terrible idea. Lack of success would burn him in the DoF role too, which is a role that suits him very well, he has done well in, and where continuity is very important.
Plus, how are foreign players supposed to understand what the feck he's talking about, when it's hard for us Germans already. He's not talking in prose, but in poetry after all.
Since hope is dwindling that this is all not happening and it looks Pep really is gone, I think Ancelotti would be the currently best option. I'm strongly against Scholl, I see no reason to rate him as a coach, terrible idea. Ancelotti's greatest asset is that star players love and respect him, which will be very important after a highly intensive and prominent coach like Pep leaves.
After Ancelotti, the timing would be better for a more daring choice IMO.
Not the slightest bit worried over a possible Guardiola departure. If he leaves, fine, we'll get someone else. If he stays, fine as well. Don't get me wrong, he's a great manager but i've never really liked him and he's definitely not the messiah many make him out to be. The loss of Pep's pulling power would be the biggest problem, i think he at least partially negates the locational disadvantage Bayern has compared to its european rivals when it comes to attracting the very elite. But, considering that Bayern didn't exactly acquire the créme de la créme during Peps reign, i think i make it out to be a bigger problem than it really is.
I'd say Thiago, Vidal, Benatia, Goetze and Lewandowski were pretty elite acquisitions, granted the latter two would have probably joined regardless of who the manager was.
The only player where Guardiola really was the deciding factor was Thiago. There's no chance he would play in Munich if it weren't for Guardiola.
Every other big club stayed clear of Vidal after an average year with lots of injury problems and Vidal being Vidal at the Copa. I wouldn't consider Benatia as elite, but thinking back i guess he was considered as one of the best CB around at that time. The two last transfers had nothing to do with Pep, at least that's what i believe to be the case.
Bayern don't feck around do they. Pep teases us with update on his future before the end of the week, Bayern go and secure his replacement.
Costa, according to all reports, was explicitly Pep's choice. He would have joined us however also without the pull of Pep's name.
Sure we'll be fine. It's still a problem, as there's no similarly exciting manager like him out there.
In principle I wouldn't mind giving someone like Weinzierl the job, but I think the contrast, in authority, prominence, and experience at the highest level, would be a bit too stark right now.
The one name that would be exciting would be Tuchel, but for him the timing is impossible.
Sure we'll be fine. It's still a problem, as there's no similarly exciting manager like him out there.
In principle I wouldn't mind giving someone like Weinzierl the job, but I think the contrast, in authority, prominence, and experience at the highest level, would be a bit too stark right now.
The one name that would be exciting would be Tuchel, but for him the timing is impossible.
What's wrong with Munich? Too rainy? Not enough shopping options? Not enough restaurants?
Bayern get a top coach with great experience. It will also give them time to sound out a younger option after 2-3 years.
Munich is fecking awesome, but i don't think the average football player knows that. If you ask 100 million people which city out of Paris, Madrid, Munich, Barcelona or London they would choose to live in, how many do you think would pick Munich? And elite football players most likely wont care about the cost of living.
But language, country and league are probably far bigger disadvantages for Bayern than the city.
I'm sure they won't be able to strip Ryan giggs off our hands
Seems like a perfect move for Bayern. In a league where competition for the title isn't too strong, bringing in arguably the best cup manager in the world seems like a great move. CL #4 for Carlo?
Dortmund is just 1 loss and 1 draw behind Bayern, having the easier games in the 2nd half of the season because Bayern had most of the tough games at home already (including Dortmund).
But agree, a cup manager like him would still be great.
So it's official or not yet ?
I bet an awful lot of money that you'll comfortably win the league and we stay at least 5 points clear if not more behind you. I'd welcome Ancelotti in the Bundesliga as he appears to be not just a great manager but also a man with a great sense of humor who doesn't take himself too serious.
If, and it's a crucial if, Dortmund can keep their amazing consistency, then it will be a very close race for the title and the heads up in Dortmund against Bayern will be really exciting. It depends more on BVB than on Bayern though.