Sure they are shit but Jesus, somebody implied that Conte sucks and that Moyes got better reputation because Conte got the titles only in Serie A.
Also throwing Kante under the bus around here because probably for the first time Pogba played a better game than him is quite weird.
Regarding the Kante part, maybe some people did, not me. I maintained Kante is very good player, but in certain system, but not easy to implement for top team. Reason: he is not Makelele to be the deep holding midfielder. He's a #8 who has defensive oriented (doesn't mean he can't pass or can't dribble with the ball. But the kind of positioning, run, movement, and pass is not suitable for offensive player). Kante will be compared to Pogba because Pogba is being deployed as #8 for us.
If anyone's familiar of my assessment on Kante, they would remember something I said like Kante benefit from a system and midfield partner who play a conservative style role and let him go hunting/pressing aka using his strength. Assigning him to a calmer role would gradually expose the flaw to his game. He is too robust for the Makelele role. He would either stepped into his teammate foot #8, even #10 area or leave behind going pressing/trying to steal the ball. Statically, Kante rarely got booked last season! In a sense, it's a good thing, but as #6 it's a weakness. Going for steal meaning Kante have to be close the the ball carrier. If the ball carrier is capable, then Kante would be drawn out of his position, even to his teammate area (Leicester system allows this). It's of other team doesn't build this system which means when Kante steals the ball, he is stuck in in crowded area and can't make good play while the space he left behind is dangerous if the opponent can win the ball back.
Kante is real at anticipating the immediate situation but not that great at reading the flow of the game aka Carrick, Makelele, Busquet, Alonso... It's too early to judge him as #6, but the flaw has always been there. I maintained during the Euro that Kante failed the #6 thus leading to Pogba to be deployed in this role as the tournament progressed. Pogba may not be everyone's cup of tea #6, but I personally rate his Euro performance in the role better than Kante, especially in the game vs Germany where I can be quoted saying Pogba was the best/influential midfielder (not #10) that game despite Germany had the upper hand in controlling the midfield and superior possession stats.... That considering Pogba is as green to this #6 role as Kante. As for #8 role, Kante has his last season to boast, but seeing Pogba's best games, Pogba showed he has higher ceiling if he can find consistency to his game. Keep in mind Pogba hasn't been afforded a system tailored to hi strength with us like Kante with Leicester.
Conte is cursed by Ireland fan " shite LVG chant". Now he got outdone exactly like LVG vs Arsenal last season.
It's looking like he doesn't have the players to play his defensive game. He builds his teams on being defensively solid and if even he can't do that then that should tell you about the quality of the defenders that he has to work with.
He'd been chasing high profile actual defenders all summer, but ended up with David Luiz! He is chasing that Belgium hipster for the no6 role.