Cristiano Ronaldo - Performances (wums will be thread banned)

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I'm sure a lot of fans would rather spend the £80m (guess) price on other areas but I would agree on the commercial bit, especially if we got back into CL I honest believe no matter what we paid for him it'd be mostly made back by the time he retired from new sponsorships and the likes.

However he does have reportedly £288,000 (After Tax) wages which I would guess is somewhere in or around £450-500k a week which sounds like madness but on the other side we pay RVP and Falcao about that a week between them and he'd double or even triple their combined goals while only taking up 1 spot of the XI.

It's a tough situation but when a player like Messi or Ronaldo becomes available there is as many pros as there is cons.
The only con is apparently spending some of Glazer's money.
 
It would be ridiculous to say I wouldn't take him back. Wrong side of 30 or not, he is still phenomenal and would immediately turn our stagnate offense to an exciting one again every match day (of course that is what we thought about Di Maria and Falcao too but he has proven himself in the PL and isn't coming off a major injury). It's not my money to spend but if he didn't cost stupid amounts of money then I think it would be worth it because he has at least another 3 or so years of top level football. Ronaldo is in top condition and could easily stretch that even farther. He loves the club, the club and fans love him...I don't see any negatives other than a price tag. I think it would be mad to turn it down if he wanted to move back this summer.
 
No player should be booed by their own fans. Come back to Old Trafford Cristiano :D
 
Brilliant player, the best overall player for me even if the best dribbler title does go to someone else, he is the best but you'd be mad to pay £80m+ for him regardless of how professional he is in training or the shape he's in. That slowing down that happened to Rio, Giggs etc will happen to him sooner or later, and there's been many players than go into decline even before 30.

Thinks its all the nostalgia with him and United causing people to mentally spend the money with their hearts not their heads in their daydreams. We miss out on many of the young Neymars, Messis, Ronaldoinhos or whoever, luckily we did get Cristiano Ronaldo at 18, so lets leave it at that and move on. If of course he was in a situation to come back to Old Trafford for free out of contract or Real let him go cheap out of respect for his service like Fergie did Wes Brown then fair enough, but that' ain't gonna happen is it.

Top player though and him being a bit of an arse is no doubt what has driven him to the top. I mean Nani can pull off most of the tricks he can, probably even more (see Arsenal) but didn't have it up stairs to go top level. Ronaldos the kind of guy who gets booed and then will bang in a penalty top corner against England, no worries and he'll think he's the best doing it.
 
Brilliant player, the best overall player for me even if the best dribbler title does go to someone else, he is the best but you'd be mad to pay £80m+ for him regardless of how professional he is in training or the shape he's in. That slowing down that happened to Rio, Giggs etc will happen to him sooner or later, and there's been many players than go into decline even before 30.

Thinks its all the nostalgia with him and United causing people to mentally spend the money with their hearts not their heads in their daydreams. We miss out on many of the young Neymars, Messis, Ronaldoinhos or whoever, luckily we did get Cristiano Ronaldo at 18, so lets leave it at that and move on. If of course he was in a situation to come back to Old Trafford for free out of contract or Real let him go cheap out of respect for his service like Fergie did Wes Brown then fair enough, but that' ain't gonna happen is it.

Top player though and him being a bit of an arse is no doubt what has driven him to the top. I mean Nani can pull off most of the tricks he can, probably even more (see Arsenal) but didn't have it up stairs to go top level. Ronaldos the kind of guy who gets booed and then will bang in a penalty top corner against England, no worries and he'll think he's the best doing it.
Spending £80m for almost guaranteed success or £60m on someone who may or may not settle in the PL, blows hot and cold and struggles on Monday nights at Stoke, etc...
 
Can't really blame him, considering the success he has brought them. Ungrateful cnuts.

They pay for the tickets and merchandise which contribute towards him being one of the richest guys in the world, and given his priority is clearly himself and not the club, I'd say the fans have every right to voice their displeasure.

There's been times when they've jeered him and it's been completely unjust, but when it's because of repeated petulant behaviour I'd say it's fair enough. Not to mention he likes to do his 'I love Man Utd and I'm sad' bit with Madrid when he wants even more money.
 
Of course Il Fenomeno was better. His natural talent outshines Cristiano's.
 
Of course Il Fenomeno was better. His natural talent outshines Cristiano's.

While slim Ronaldo eclipses fat Ronaldo in almost every other sphere of reference. It's not about some intangible bollocks no one on here can quantify but keep talking about... it's your body of work on the pitch. Your peak level of performance.
 
While slim Ronaldo eclipses fat Ronaldo in almost every other sphere of reference. It's not about some intangible bollocks no one on here can quantify but keep talking about... it's your body of work on the pitch. Your peak level of performance.

Body of work and peak level of performance are two entirely different things, though. Cristiano trumps Ronaldo in the former area, vice-versa in the latter.
 
Body of work and peak level of performance are two entirely different things, though. Cristiano trumps Ronaldo in the former area, vice-versa in the latter.

I know what I meant. Let me rephrase to be clearer.

Over Cristiano's career, he has had seasons that outshined Fenomeno's peak years at Barcelona and Inter.
 
I know what I meant. Let me rephrase to be clearer.

Over Cristiano's career, he has had seasons that outshined Fenomeno's peak years at Barcelona and Inter.

That's what I thought you meant, it's not true though - even in Cristiano's best seasons he never trumped peak Brazilian Ronaldo. Where he has a big advantage is that his peak has lasted much longer than the Brazilian's did. Cristiano has had the better career but Ronaldo was the better player (just like Ronaldinho, but with injuries being his downfall instead of lack of motivation).
 
Always makes me laugh when people say Luis Ronaldo was better than Cristiano. In terms of club career and performance, this is a absolute no contest.
 
Always makes me laugh when people say Luis Ronaldo was better than Cristiano. In terms of club career and performance, this is a absolute no contest.

Ability-wise it's not at all controversial to rate Brazilian Ronaldo higher, based on his performances before his injuries. He scored 47 goals in a season for Barcelona at age 21 and 34 in his debut season for Inter before missing most of the next 3 seasons through knee injury and never really recovering.
 
Yeah agree with Jeff, Ronaldo was a special player and has proven class at many teams and leagues, he was unlucky with his time out with his knee but still had a cracking career and was a dressing room fit away from winning 3 world cups. He was special in France 98' very special, he's just simply done it everwhere, PSV, Barca, Inter, Real, Brazil, would have loved to seen him in the PL. Also Ronaldo's adverts were much better than Cristiano Ronaldo's.
 
Ability-wise it's not at all controversial to rate Brazilian Ronaldo higher, based on his performances before his injuries. He scored 47 goals in a season for Barcelona at age 21 and 34 in his debut season for Inter before missing most of the next 3 seasons through knee injury and never really recovering.

Cristiano has scored 60 goals in a single season, he's also scored 50 goals or more for 5 consecutive seasons(Also on course to score 50 again this year). He also scored 42 goals in a season at United playing mostly on the wing. It isn't even fair to compare the goalscoring of the two players. Brazilian Ronaldo is probably the best striker ever, but as far as the complete player goes, Cristiano wins in nearly every category.
 
Cristiano has scored 60 goals in a single season, he's also scored 50 goals or more for 5 consecutive seasons(Also on course to score 50 again this year). He also scored 42 goals in a season at United playing mostly on the wing. It isn't even fair to compare the goalscoring of the two players. Brazilian Ronaldo is probably the best striker ever, but as far as the complete player goes, Cristiano wins in nearly every category.
you mean "hair do" "dressing" "ferrari look" and "tight buttocks"?
 
Cristiano has scored 60 goals in a single season, he's also scored 50 goals or more for 5 consecutive seasons(Also on course to score 50 again this year). He also scored 42 goals in a season at United playing mostly on the wing. It isn't even fair to compare the goalscoring of the two players. Brazilian Ronaldo is probably the best striker ever, but as far as the complete player goes, Cristiano wins in nearly every category.

The difference is that Cristiano was doing these things in his mid-late 20s when he was approaching or at his natural peak, whereas Brazilian Ronaldo was doing them in his early 20s in worse teams and in far more defensive leagues. If Brazilian Ronaldo hadn't had disastrous luck with injuries I have no doubt that he'd have been capable of putting up the numbers Cristiano has. In terms of natural talent I don't think its a contest, and I'm not one of the people you see in here who love tearing Cristiano down, fwiw.
 
The difference is that Cristiano was doing these things in his mid-late 20s when he was approaching or at his natural peak, whereas Brazilian Ronaldo was doing them in his early 20s in worse teams and (for Inter) in far more defensive leagues. If Brazilian Ronaldo hadn't had disastrous luck with injuries I have no doubt that he'd have been capable of putting up the numbers Cristiano has.

You're dealing with "What ifs" and what not mate. I also have no doubt that if Brazilian Ronaldo could have stayed fit, he would have likely gone down as the greatest ever, but the fact is he didn't. Crisitano has outperformed him in almost every way. Also Crisitano was destroying some great Premier league defences which weren't half bad when he is 22/23 as well.
 
Ronaldo saying "go feck yourselves" to the fans yesterday when he was being booed




Big difference from singing your own song together with the Stretford End after a title win, eh, Ronnie?
 
Piece in the Telegraph this morning saying that Ronaldo wants to move to an MLS club in 2018 to end his career playing in the states, but only to "one of the big cities".

What's the betting that he goes to New York Red Bulls and then gets lent back to it's parent club "to keep his fitness up until the US season starts after Xmas" and then stays in the UK for a full season after a contract mix-up (but definitely not a blatant attempt to rig financial fair play).

Now that I type the words it sounds so ridiculous … that would never be allowed to happen, surely!
 
Cristiano in the MLS would be weird. It's weird realising he's 30 right now and hasn't got that many years ahead of him at the highest level.

I still would like him back here. What are the chances Madrid sell both Bale and Cristiano in one summer? :p
 
Cristiano in the MLS would be weird. It's weird realising he's 30 right now and hasn't got that many years ahead of him at the highest level.

It really is. Where has that time gone? It feels like he should be about 26/27. Realuminati?

Also, how can he be worth anything close to what we sold him for? Have football prices inflated that much? Did we let him go for way too cheap?

Probably.
 
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van persie, falcao and hernandez out. ronaldo in. make sense.

ronaldo-rooney upfront would still be mouth watering.
 
Piece in the Telegraph this morning saying that Ronaldo wants to move to an MLS club in 2018 to end his career playing in the states, but only to "one of the big cities".

What's the betting that he goes to New York Red Bulls and then gets lent back to it's parent club "to keep his fitness up until the US season starts after Xmas" and then stays in the UK for a full season after a contract mix-up (but definitely not a blatant attempt to rig financial fair play).

Now that I type the words it sounds so ridiculous … that would never be allowed to happen, surely!

You're talking about New York City FC, not NY Red Bulls.
 
Of course Il Fenomeno was better. His natural talent outshines Cristiano's.
Are we talking about the more talented or the better player? Luiz Ronaldo could well have been the best player ever if he didn't get all those injuries, but the fact is he did.
 
Fat Ronaldo and Ronaldinho were both more talented but prick Ronaldo will go down as the better player.
 
Fat Ronaldo and Ronaldinho were both more talented but prick Ronaldo will go down as the better player.
Agree with this.

Fat Ronaldo could have been the best player ever if he didn't had those injuries. Ronaldinho coukd have been one of the best ever if he was professional. Prick Ronaldo - despite not being as talented as them - has been the better player and is one of the best ever. In fact, considering only club career, it isn't even a contest, while adding also international football, it comes close between the prick and fatty, but still the prick wins IMO.
 
I think Ronaldo to the MLS makes perfect sense, just like Beckham did. It's great for his profile, he'll still get great wages and he might actually be interested in raising the profile of the MLS (I think Beckham genuinely cared about that). At 33-34, such a move wouldn't really surprise me.
 
R9 was more talented than both of the top two players in the world right now.
 
I think Ronaldo to the MLS makes perfect sense, just like Beckham did. It's great for his profile, he'll still get great wages and he might actually be interested in raising the profile of the MLS (I think Beckham genuinely cared about that). At 33-34, such a move wouldn't really surprise me.

It will all make sense.... once Ronaldo is 36/37. He has so much yet to offer. The guy is a beast and can rely on his physicality if he loses his pace .
 
R9 was very talented but not more than the big two today.
 
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