In no way should he come back. He would cost a fortune and with his type of behaviour, he can stay away. He isnt the same character anymore, he plays more for personal records (now more than ever before) than winning with the team.
Cristiano Ronaldo - Performances (wums will be thread banned)
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He has always been like that, bottom line is he is that good and his team mates and managers don't really seem to have a problem with him being all about himself or with his ego, and that's all that counts really in the end.
I like him, always have, but surely everyone can see he is more about himself than any other player I can remember (maybe Ibra comes close, but I don't watch him often enough to judge it).
And before anyone brings in several gifs which show he celebrates with his team mates at times, well I am aware of this. But what is obvious since his better days at United (since 2006) and hasn't changed at all at RM is that until he himself has not scored/is not happy he usually won't care about his teammates great moments. Yes if he has already scored or provided an assist for the scorer, he will celebrate. But if he hasn't scored yet, and hasn't been involved in the goal, then most of the time he gives the impression that he couldn't care less.
I have to give it to him though that he doesn't even try to hide it and doesn't seem to care what ppl think of his egocentric behaviour, as he does it over and over again.
Do I like him less because of that? Nope, as he is a bloody good footballer and some players do much worse things on the pitch than what Ronaldo does by being egocentric (Costa, Suarez to name two).
Do I find it annoying? At times yes, but who cares?!
I like him, always have, but surely everyone can see he is more about himself than any other player I can remember (maybe Ibra comes close, but I don't watch him often enough to judge it).
And before anyone brings in several gifs which show he celebrates with his team mates at times, well I am aware of this. But what is obvious since his better days at United (since 2006) and hasn't changed at all at RM is that until he himself has not scored/is not happy he usually won't care about his teammates great moments. Yes if he has already scored or provided an assist for the scorer, he will celebrate. But if he hasn't scored yet, and hasn't been involved in the goal, then most of the time he gives the impression that he couldn't care less.
I have to give it to him though that he doesn't even try to hide it and doesn't seem to care what ppl think of his egocentric behaviour, as he does it over and over again.
Do I like him less because of that? Nope, as he is a bloody good footballer and some players do much worse things on the pitch than what Ronaldo does by being egocentric (Costa, Suarez to name two).
Do I find it annoying? At times yes, but who cares?!
As much of a fan as I'm, his petulance used to be funny but now a days he's 30 years old with a 4 year old son and its disgraceful that his maturity has only been dipping lower. Forget not celebrating your teammate's goals but what was that strop about? Just because your shot was turned in by someone else?
They can have Di Maria back just if we get Ronnie back.. #freeRonaldo
I guess it wont stop till he retires.
I dont think we should go for him if there'll be a chance which most probably wont happen anyway..
We dont need that kind of behaviour at United , not to mention he's 30.
Read an interesting article this morning ( a friend commented on it in FB and I'm struggling to find it again) that the reason Ronaldo is mentally fragile is because he knows it's his last season at Madrid and wanted to set the all time scoring record before he leaves. His run since Chrismas has placed that out of reach now.
I saw him threw his hand up in somewhat of a 'disgust' when Bale scored their first goal yesterday. I've never seen a player do that...NEVER. It proved to me 100% that he isn't about the team. I mean, come on! What player isn't happy THEIR team scored? It looked like he was more upset about not scoring than his team picking up a vital 3 points. I obviously don't know him personally but I can't like him as pro-footballer. He has way too much talent, money and good things going for him in his life to be behaving like that on a football pitch. Does he actually love the game anymore or he's more concerned about breaking records?
He was petulant and prone to tantrums on the pitch when he was with us as well. It's all forgotten/forgiven as long as he wins us trophies.
He'll get chances on Sunday, and as long as he takes them all will be forgotten
Don't think he's really changed that much
If Carlo would bench him on Sunday, it would make for funny television.
Afterwards he'd be heading to Syria to join IS.
Afterwards he'd be heading to Syria to join IS.
I'm still convinced he was on his way back to United until the news of Fergie leaving broke and what a time it would've been for him to come back and rescue us. He's 30 now and even though I'm sure he'll be class for another 4-5 years I couldn't justify paying 80+ million on a 30 year old, not to mention his massive wages. We need strength in other areas first. The ship has sailed.
That is still one of most WTF moments I'd ever seen... imagine if that were reversed, Higuaín (or Bale, lol) doing it to him. He'd spontaneously decombust on the spot.
Do you think he will behave like a prima donna if he ever makes a return to United? I personally think he would have too much respect for the club and fans to do so
Lets not forget this classic.....
Respect? flirting with Madrid for years, dropping Uniteds name in whenever he wants a bigger contract, telling the fans he's going nowhere 48 hours before the news breaks that he's going to become a Madrid player. I doubt it mate
Agreed, he hasn't changed since he left. Although he is still a world class player that would improve most teams, I think our club is better off moving on.
Who cares? I bet bale does given madrid fans are booing him, and it certainly doesn't help and possibly causes or makes it worse when the team's best player keeps making frustrated gestures towards him.
I don't think he will come back but I think his behavior is systematic of his relationship with Madrid and the clubs attitude. He had his moments at United but he was still growing up. As he matured he improved until he decided he wanted to move to Spain. He will always have his moments but that's the standards he's set. I think the problem he has is there is talented teams in Spain, but 9/10 it's him vs Messi. Season after season. If one of them scores more, their respective team wins the league. There are more challenges in England. Someone like Ronaldo, could win teams leagues. US being not that great will probably appeal to his ego more. People talk about age, wages etc - we're not a poor club. Ronaldo will always make money.
71m is the figure i saw. If we sign him back for 9m shy of what we were fleeced for in the first place, 6 years after him leaving as he was peaking then we're idiots.
Lets not forget this classic.....
He was a lot more justified in his actions here than in the clip above. What the feck was Nani playing at!
When it comes to Ronaldo, 71 Million might not be a bad price. If we signed him (again not saying we will), it would be as big a psychological boost as Sir Alex coming out of retirement for another 5 years.
What is your objection? 
If we had Ronaldo we wouldn't have spent half a season passing the ball backwards and we'd be challenging for the league
If we had Ronaldo we wouldn't have spent half a season passing the ball backwards and we'd be challenging for the leagueMy objection is comparing the psychological impact of signing a player, as good as they might be, to Sir Alex Ferguson, the fecking master of man management. Seriously, it's a crazy comparison. Saf was an absolute genius at this. His team's were physiologically and mentally at it year after year. It was his biggest strength imo.What is your objection?
That's not true. Ronaldo twice won the Pichichi and both times Real didn't win the league. The only season Real won the league since Ronaldo joined, Messi actually set the record for most goals scored.
Also madrid with let go of Ronaldo when they want to i.e when they don't feel he can sustain his level. We'd no doubt be getting a player lesser than the one who madrid would have had for his best years.
Yeah but signing Ronaldo would be just a great a high for the player. I know Sir Alex's qualities, but i'm not one of those people that think Ronaldo's lost anything. I think if we had of signed him pre season, we'd be top of the league with Chelsea and that's all you can really ask for.
Balu it was more a general point. There are always exceptions.
You say that but it depends on the player. Would Ronaldo come out and say he's tired of being a slave? No, I said I doubt he would come back. So it's all moot. Ronaldo's record speaks for itself though and he will be a top player for a good number of years yet
It will only be a step down after madrid for Ronaldo so he would be daft to leave. Like I said, madrid hold all the aces. Both will continue as they are till Ronaldo's level drops off.
Lets not forget this classic.....
I actually completely understand his reaction to that. Friendly or not he was denied an absolutely brilliant goal by an utter brainless bit of play from Nani who not only headed it in from an offside position but headed it in when it was already on it's way to finding the net anyway
He'd still be an asset to any team regardless of his age, but I think you'd need someone like Sir Alex to keep him in his place. I didn't even mention all the 'slave' talk while he was at United. I think Ronaldo has respect, but only for himself. Terry Gibson had an article recently suggesting Madrid selling him might not be all that bad, he feels Ronaldo has now crossed the line with his obsession for personal records and goals to the point it's become detrimental to his team.
@amolbhatia100 I know there are some people who blame a lot of the fan hostility shown towards Bale on Ronaldo for that incident where he lambasted him for not passing, some seem to think the fans were affected by that and got on board jeering him. I doubt it personally but I suppose only they know.
Yea he had so much respect for the club he drags out a transfer saga in summer 2008 demanding to leave, and calls himself a Slave. Yes if he wants to go fine, but when he expects to be transfered after the club won the European cup, then I have a problem with him. At the end of the day he could have handled that better, but he does not look at it like that because he's about himself
I highly doubt RM fans would boo Isco if Ronaldo made those gestures towards him, infact I actually think they might boo Ronaldo for making gestures towards Isco as the crowd absolutely loves Isco.
Bale knew what he would be getting joining RM and playing next to Ronaldo, I have absolutely no sympathy for him in this regard as he could have come to United and would have been THE star of the team where noone would be making gestures to him. Bale either needs to make him that valuable for Madrid that not even Ronaldo might cause the crowd booing him (like Isco or Modric) or needs to deal with it imho.
Would be a much better player if he wasn't so selfish IMO, much like Lebron James one of the main reasons he left United for Real Madrid as Lebron from Miami to Cleveland was probably the idea that he would be the boss, he would be the player,coach and owner in a sense most decisions will go through him, he will decide who stays and who goes and much like Lebron he wouldn't have been able to do that under Fergie - Pat Riley for Lebron James, so he had to leave and the only way he would be able to justify leaving would be to say he is going "home" or to a more peculiar environment to home, not forgetting the huge sum paid and the salary of course.
At United he would sh!t on any manager not named Fergie
I don't agree. United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Bayern, Dortmund and Atletico fans amongst others are much better and more supportive than Madrid and Barcelona fans and far less spoilt and arrogant. They get behind their teams much more, even when things are not going well and do not turn on their teams as easily. Madrid and Barcelona fans are not just like the spoilt fans of other big clubs, they are much worse. Both sets of supporters have that reputation in Spain and amongst many supporters outside Spain. Even on this forum they have a reputation of being spoilt and arrogant and have been referred to as such many times (why do you think almost every Barcelona fan on this forum gets banned? There are not that many Madrid fans on here. If there were it would probably be the same).
"If Barcelona had Liverpool's fans, or Arsenal's, or United's, we'd have won 20 Champions Leagues, hahaha! OK, so that's an exaggeration but I've never seen anything like it. We won 3-1 at Liverpool once and we were both applauded off the pitch"-Xavi
‘I have never seen anything like the supporters there. We won 3-1 at Liverpool once and we were applauded off the pitch, and Liverpool were as well. All the players who go to England to play come back saying wonderful things about it, the fans, the people. I think I would have liked it.’-Xavi
Etoo was booed in 2008 after he scored vs Mallorca and throughout the match. Barcelona fans booed their team during a 6-0 win over Valencia in 2008 also. Just two examples that come to mind.
Barcelona fans got on Neymars back last year plenty of times. It was the same with Ibrahimovich at times when he was struggling.
I don't see how that is such a big deal or how that is meant to negate my points or back up yours. From what I read from reports after that match and from what I have heard from people I know who were at that game, large sections of Barcelona fans booed their own players and applauded the Atletico team. A nice gesture tbf. They applauded Laurie Cunningham also among other opposition teams/players. Madrid fans have done the same with the opposition like with Ronaldinho and the whole Barcelona team, Iniesta, Silva, Del Piero, Giggs, Ajax, Levante in 2008 etc. Both sets of fans have their moments but it is not something that sets them apart from others. Its a pity, Barcelona and Madrid are both massive and great clubs. It would be fitting if thy had great supporters to go along with it that support their team a much as United, Liverpool etc fans do. The sad reality is that they do not.
Nah, we'd probably make a shit ton of money from him anyway considering the adidas deal is structured differently from the Nike deal in terms of merchandise.
Oh from what I know, see, hear and read Barca fans are as spoilt as RM fans, no difference at all.
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