I'd have to give it some thought but his best years were in Spain and he wasn't at the top level in the PL for long enough for that acolade IMO.
Cristiano Ronaldo - Performances (wums will be thread banned)
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I'd take him back in a heartbeat.
Contract renewal time already?
Agreed
Think it could be different. He's broken the goalscoring record there, so the vanity project is done. That, combined with the fact that Perez might just chuck him out because that's just how they roll at madrid, I could see him leave in the summer.
I'd have him back but he won't come back of course. He'd rather live the life in the states than come back to rainy Manchester and struggle at this current team.
As others have said he isn't the same player as he was a few years back but he capable of walking into our first 11 and anyone else's for that matter.
As others have said he isn't the same player as he was a few years back but he capable of walking into our first 11 and anyone else's for that matter.
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Most talented, yes but I agree with you. It's hard no matter how good someone is the call them the greatest ever when they spent such little time in the league and especially since they spent their best years abroad.
Hmmm....
He scores more goals than our entire team combined and you are saying he isn't good enough for MUFC?
I think some people still think that we are league and CL favourites. Those days are gone.
Our current level is now trying to score 1 goal in a game (our premier league average is 1.36 goals/game). It pains me to say that, but that's just how it is.
So, when you have a player who can score more goals than our entire team combined, we shouldn't turn up our noses at him.
If he joined, I think he would immediately be recognised as our best outfield player.
The amount of goals he scores has nothing to do with what I'm saying. Not because you score 50+ goals a season at Madrid you'll do it everywhere.
The league is different, the game is different and the players are different.
Ronaldo can't score goals on his own. He isn't good scoring goals out of nowhere. He isn't good at freekicks. He's just so good phisically that he's miles ahead of the defenders. But in order to exploit that, your team needs to have a certain dynamism which United (IMO) doesn't have.
The league is different, the game is different and the players are different.
Ronaldo can't score goals on his own. He isn't good scoring goals out of nowhere. He isn't good at freekicks. He's just so good phisically that he's miles ahead of the defenders. But in order to exploit that, your team needs to have a certain dynamism which United (IMO) doesn't have.
You're forgetting he has very good movement and physical attributes and is still quick. He can also still beat a man when he needs to. He would gets goals at United tbh. Lingard looks like he can get goals in our team, we aint as bad as many make out. Just so happens Rooney isn't looking so good (mainly due to his movement and poor touch)
I'm not advocating spending a fortune on bringing Ronaldo back, but he would 100% offer more than Rooney.
You seem convinced, but for me he's far different from the Ronaldo I really liked. I don't think he can beat a man when he needs to but only when he's inspired to do so. To beat a man is not to make a few step overs and keep the ball. You need to take an advantage for doing that. He's also getting older, so he will not improve that much. Phisically he struggles against Spain defenders when on the ball. His movements when chasing the ball, his anticipation, his jumping are just out of this world. But when the team plays in a way that you can see what they are doing and there's no surprise, as it happens with LVG, He won't make a difference.
It's my point of view, of course. I'd keep the best memories in my mind and use that money to invest on something young, something new.
I don't think he is the player he was, and I most certainly didn't say he was.
That is completely different from saying he wouldn't score goals for us.
EDIT: Just for the record I do not want him back here.
I don't think his three great seasons (his other three seasons certainly wouldn't put him in the greatest category) put him ahead of everyone else. Van Nistlerooy and Cole both scored over 40 goals in a season so he isn't unique in that regard, Cantona almost single handedly dragged us to a title, Shearer did for Blackburn, so others have achieved equally great seasons, and how can you weigh his seasons over what Giggs or Scholes achieved. His last season here wasn't even that great really.
So far this season, he's really struggled to beat his man when needed.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/34737914
In the end this guy will be just like Maradona and Pele talking about himself years and decades after retiring. Such a pain in the ax
In the end this guy will be just like Maradona and Pele talking about himself years and decades after retiring. Such a pain in the ax
It'd be interesting to know if he actually believes that he's better than Messi or if he just says so for commercial purposes etc
The way he phrases it, almost looks like psychological drivel to psyche himself up.
It doesn't look a very rational opinion, it's something I can see him saying when he's 38 scoring 15 goals per season in the MLS.
Have you ever even watched him play these days?Yes he is no Messi. But still he is by far the best goalscorer/striker in the world currently, in terms of scoring goals, finishing, jumping and heading, constantly running into good position, athletics, pace, drive and determination, and getting away from his markers.
Given that no.9 and goalscoring has been our major problems this season, I see no sense in saying that he won't improve us significantly at all.
I imagine a player like Ronaldo will always believe he's the best, no matter what.
Yes he is no Messi. But still he is by far the best goalscorer/striker in the world currently, in terms of scoring goals, finishing, jumping and heading, constantly running into good position, athletics, pace, drive and determination, and getting away from his markers.
Given that no.9 and goalscoring has been our major problems this season, I see no sense in saying that he won't improve us significantly at all.
OF course I have! In Madrid they're talking about the "Raul effect" on Cristiano. You can repeat to yourself whatever you think he has. I'm saying that nowadays and since the last 3 seasons, he needs a team that provides him. He can't do it on his own as he could with us. And I'm saying we, playing under the Van Gaal philosophy, don't have the dynamism to exploit his current abilities.
Still a better option than Rooney.
The state of this thread at times and people actually putting down arguably the greatest player in the world, fecking hell 
The state of this thread at times and people actually putting down arguably the greatest player in the world, fecking hell
I know right it's laugable to suggest he would fail if he came back
He could come back next summer window and he would easily be the best player in the league. Or top 3 at the very worst. He could still easily score 20+ goals in all competitions, just His presense on the pitch would automatically give all united players a huge lift.
There would be an excitment around OT thats been lacking for some time now, I'd kill to see Ronaldo play in a United shirt again. He is getting on in age now but it's completely irrelevent because he looks after himself so well I'm certain ronaldo could play to his late 30's. If there's any chance of him wanting to come back we should bite real madrids hand off.
A 40 year old Ronaldo would be a better option than Rooney
I think that he is preparing his exit to PSG,interviews,whispers with Blanc,very friendly with Khelaifi,etc
Florentino asked him about the interview(in Kicker,he said that might leave the club some day),telling him that he shouldn't say those things.Of course Florentino knew that there was a camera behind him to record his "concern"
Florentino asked him about the interview(in Kicker,he said that might leave the club some day),telling him that he shouldn't say those things.Of course Florentino knew that there was a camera behind him to record his "concern"
I'd welcome him back with open arms to be honest, and Woodward the marquee player maniac would be pretty excited about any such deal too. He's still one of the, if not the most most marketable player in the world rivaled by only maybe Neymar and Messi, and arguably the best player in the world with those two too. He's transitioning to a #9 role, and you could fit him with Martial in a forward 3, with the duo operating like Benzema and Ronaldo. Add another top player to the mix, and it would be the best in the world after the Barcelona trio. Our defense, and midfield is solid; so that should propel us into the upper echelons of European football. He would guarantee atleast 35+ goals per season, and could probably score 30+ for the next 3-4 seasons.
If Ronaldo returns, he'd immediately be the club's poster boy, the best player in the league, the most lethal forward in the league, and put a certain fear n the mind of the opponents. With players of his stature, performance aside, just their name carries an enormous amount of respect. We've been missing that kind of player since he left. Only Rooney 2009/ 2010, and Van Persie 2012/ 2013 would be talked of in the same stratosphere, and even they were far removed from Ronaldo's class. Even a part of the transfer fee would be offset by band-wagoners, and his personal fans. Would make sense from all angles. However, it's difficult to entertain the notion when us gullible fans are seemingly strung along every other season.
If Ronaldo returns, he'd immediately be the club's poster boy, the best player in the league, the most lethal forward in the league, and put a certain fear n the mind of the opponents. With players of his stature, performance aside, just their name carries an enormous amount of respect. We've been missing that kind of player since he left. Only Rooney 2009/ 2010, and Van Persie 2012/ 2013 would be talked of in the same stratosphere, and even they were far removed from Ronaldo's class. Even a part of the transfer fee would be offset by band-wagoners, and his personal fans. Would make sense from all angles. However, it's difficult to entertain the notion when us gullible fans are seemingly strung along every other season.
Funny thing is, since 2003 or so, it seems like there's always been a group (a sizable one too!) who wanted Ronaldo to go, or to not come back, or to be traded.
He was always on the cusp of failure (they said), or always only good because of other players.
I'm not sure I'd like to watch the inevitable Ronaldo decline though. It would be sad to see.
He was always on the cusp of failure (they said), or always only good because of other players.
I'm not sure I'd like to watch the inevitable Ronaldo decline though. It would be sad to see.
Knowing RM soon they find a replacement for him they will kick his ass ... Figo for example.
A 55 year old Ronaldo would be better than Rooney right now, but then Wayne would probably try and shag him.
Ronaldo on a two year contract would be ideal but anything longer and we get ourselves into another Rooney type situation.
I think people will be shocked at how fast Ronaldo falls off tbh, I don't buy the fact he'll play on at a high level in his 30s since he's had knee problem in his late 20s and has already had to curtail some of his more explosive movements.I know right it's laugable to suggest he would fail if he came back
He could come back next summer window and he would easily be the best player in the league. Or top 3 at the very worst. He could still easily score 20+ goals in all competitions, just His presense on the pitch would automatically give all united players a huge lift.
There would be an excitment around OT thats been lacking for some time now, I'd kill to see Ronaldo play in a United shirt again. He is getting on in age now but it's completely irrelevent because he looks after himself so well I'm certain ronaldo could play to his late 30's. If there's any chance of him wanting to come back we should bite real madrids hand off.
If Madrid get 50/60m offer this year they should bite their hands off
Every striker needs someone to provide them but the hard part is to find a striker who's in the right position to be provided. RM with Benitez changed from an attacking team to a defensive team and Ronaldo will only score when Benzema and Bale are back because then they will have more firepower at front.
I have no idea what's a real possibility, but if there's any chance we can bring Ronaldo back next season for a 2-3 year contract we'd be completely insane not to pull the trigger.
We could use some help scoring goals.
We could use some help scoring goals.
I think that in this case Cristiano is also interested in a new last project. I am curious about his stats at the end of the season.
Figo was terrible his last season,a shadow of the player that was once and didn't accept it well
31 in a few months. Are we starting to see the signs? He's stats have always been at a high level but his performances have been declining for a while now. His all round game is getting worse and worse.
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