put him there by accident. Neymar is too incosnistent after December.
Cristiano Ronaldo - Performances (wums will be thread banned)
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Ronaldo is the opposite to the definition of clinical. Messi is clinical and chooses where to shoot. Ronaldo is more about power (80% power and 30 direction I'd say)
But today he was just unlucky. This game reminded me to Messi's game against Colombia in CA2015. He was unlucky back then and couldn't score a goal in the entire Copa America. The thing is Messi played incredibly even if he didn't score and generated a lot of situations for Arg, while Ronaldo can't generate anything on his own since the time he was at United.
Ah, right. OK. Sorry about that.
I can read. it's complete nonsense.
I'd love to have seen the likes of Messi, Suarez, Ronaldo etc playing in that defensive period we saw around the early 00's
Of course, football has changed, pace and stamina changed, but you can talk about trophies and of course the personality of a winner.
Maradona was the best in his period, not only because he was the best in terms of technique, but because he produced his best football when it mattered. That's what Ronaldo and Messi lack.
Ronaldo is an incredible player but he isn't a genius. That's it. He's like...ten shin han and Maradona, Pele, Messi, Zidane, Ronaldinho and others are super saijans.
I've got to HAND it to Maradona. He sure knew how to win World Cup's without cheating.
Ronaldo sure knows how to be a huge player. Dive, after dive, after dive, after dive.
Where do you go with this?
Messi lacks nothing. He produced the best football at the champions league KO stages, he's been ok at the WC2014 and 2010 (this is my opinion) and he's been great at Copa America 2015, WCQ2014 and WCQ2018.
I reckon they'd all be comparably dominant irrespective of the era. The only thing that separates most of them is the misfortune of being compared to one another because they played at the same time.
So you agree that both have their flaws. Excellent.
He's a glorified poacher who excels at penalties and tap ins. To even compare him to Maradona is an insult.
So winning all those league titles, CLs, other cups between them doesn't matter shit because they didn't win it on international stage?
Here we fecking go again, same ol' same ol', type of shit like 'Is Messi better than Maradona' when he inevitably fails to win shit with Argentina.
How can you say if you don't read?
I just read it again and laughed even harder.
It is strange how the two standout players of this generation have not hit the heights of previous legends on the international stage.
Is it a case of the club teams being built around them (with the wealth of options selecting from different nationalities provide) or is it more a case of the waning importance the players put on internationals, compared to previous generations?
Would hate for it to be the latter but there is an argument towards it.
Is it a case of the club teams being built around them (with the wealth of options selecting from different nationalities provide) or is it more a case of the waning importance the players put on internationals, compared to previous generations?
Would hate for it to be the latter but there is an argument towards it.
This isn't the RvN thread.
So, you read it and you are insulting me, not the comment.
Cowardish tactic. Lacks manliness.
There's a time & a place for this kind of sensible input & I don't think this is it.
The best player of their generation is Iniesta. End of story.
Nope. You're posts are funny. Keep going I say.
He's up there with Maradona though. It's not unfair to Messi if people are saying he is better than him.
He's played some of the best football of any player to ever play the game.
It would have been interesting. We were crying out for it at the time (neutrals/spectators especially).
See some are training for the troll Olympics in this thread.
Now you're completely wumming.
It's a ridiculous argument.
The most incredible thing is that if it wasn't because of Higuain or Palacios Messi would've won more than Maradona in Argentina.
Messi has played 2 finals in a row and you wonder how is that bad...
You are welcome.
Your posts added something very useful to the discussion.
We all needed to know with what comment you laughed at.
Thank you for letting us know.
ffs
We'll try to be more manly for you.
I know, there're preferences and such, but I'm not adopting that shitty elitist-like attitude that there's no place for discussion because Maradona won with Argentina end of thread, one you can see redwar oozing with.
You think you should?
Don't you feel man enough by yourself? You want to show it to me?
No, thanks. Keep it for yourself and it will be obvious when you talk, write etc.
Get off your fecking high horse, you're annoying.
Good post. Its one of the few criticisms I've had of him over the years. If he could have blended his talent with being a bit more team oriented, he would have had even more success over the years.
Football was not so commercialized back then. It was not viewed as much as a business. Today its all about the $$$. Too many games, and when the time comes for an international tournament, the top players are usually mentally and physically drained.
On your other point, I think in South America in particular the importance of international football has not waned. In Europe there may be a little decline in interest compared to club football.
That's all he does in games now. He's never the driving figure for his team. He's always on the periphery waiting to strike. That's why I call him a glorified poacher. It sounds harsh because we associate poachers with talentless guys who just score scrappy goals from a few yards out and he's obviously of a level way, way above that but his impact and what he brings is not too dissimilar at all.
Comparisons with guys like Maradona (and the inevitable Messi) are wide of the mark. Those guys pick the ball up deep, play world class passes, beat men with ease, create chances and totally dominate the game. Ronaldo simply doesn't offer this to his side at all. He's like a goalscoring robot.
Would it help if we splashed some Brut on before posting?
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