Agree. It will make a man of him too. Because it would aid his physical development and make him cease being so light weight.
Danny Welbeck
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Really good to see he's doing well on loan so far.
He just hasnt transferred that to the first team yet. It's almost like he's holding back or playing within himself. Lets hope he rediscovers his killer instinct in the Championship.
Our new loan policy: Only loan players to Scottish managers. It's working for Cleverley - now Welbeck and James will benefit.
IMO He most likely will when he gets physically stronger. Which playing in the championship regularly will make him. For I feel he wasn't making the impact he could in the EPL because of not being physically ready.
Any news on how he played last night?
which celebration are they on about? against derby last yr?
Fairly anonymous apparently, with little service. James also struggled according to the PNE forum. It seems Ferguson is trying to change the way they play and made quite a few changes and as expected they are having difficulty finding consistency and some of the bigger name players aren't performing.
I think somehow I totally missed this whole story - I've no idea of the exact terms of Welbeck's loan agreement.
Does someone know if we can, or should, be getting him back in light of the news about Owen?
Bearing in mind Macheda's been out a while and Rooney's knee, wouldn't he be great to have around in the squad right now?
Does someone know if we can, or should, be getting him back in light of the news about Owen?
Bearing in mind Macheda's been out a while and Rooney's knee, wouldn't he be great to have around in the squad right now?
Diouf and Macheda to add to Rooney and Berba is pretty good. Even Josh King would be pretty amazing if we are stuck.
Of course if Rooney gets injured we are fecked even without Welbeck (or Owen) being availablle.
I really think Danny has a lot to learn about football so I think this loan deal is vital for him.
What I read today was the deal is such that he cannot be recalled.
Indeed.
There's still that little spastic in the back of my head screaming for him to be given another run in the first team, even at such an important time of the season.
He will get his chance just not this year
Exactly, this loan is for the best for the lad and i'm well pleased he's performing above expectations.
Have we established whether Macheda is free of injury?
He is not though. Apart from the some very good 1-2 debut performances, he hasn't been that great for PNE(According to the PNE forums anyway) whereas James has been impressive for them.
Welbeck is also injured btw
Our forward line is totally dependent on Rooney and it will remain so whether we bring Welbeck back or not. If the Scouser gets injured we are basically fecked
a) Berba has yet to prove that he can lead the line for us
b) the alternative (Diouf and Macheda) would probably struggle at a middle EPL side let alone against Barca's or Liverpool's defenses.
So our best hope is that Rooney is capable of keeping the tempo till the end of the season. No wonder why SAF was not happy that Capello (:cough: AC Milan's product :cough )) had allowed Rooney to play for 86 minutes against Egypt.
a) Berba has yet to prove that he can lead the line for us
b) the alternative (Diouf and Macheda) would probably struggle at a middle EPL side let alone against Barca's or Liverpool's defenses.
So our best hope is that Rooney is capable of keeping the tempo till the end of the season. No wonder why SAF was not happy that Capello (:cough: AC Milan's product :cough )) had allowed Rooney to play for 86 minutes against Egypt.
Yeah, they haven't taken to him as well as James, but still acknowledge his talent.
His injury is not as bad as first thought apparently. He had treatment back at United on his knee and is now in contention for Preston's away game at Plymouth this afternoon.
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Looks like he hasn't travelled to Plymouth, he's looking cheerful watching the United academy game
Did his knee in against Newcastle and missed the tie against Cardiff: Preston North End | Match | Report | 27 February 2010, Preston 3 - 0 Cardiff
Looks like it was touch-and-go for Welbeck and he didn't quite make it. May have gone back to Carrington for a checkup with us and went to the match just because he was around.
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Looks like it was touch-and-go for Welbeck and he didn't quite make it. May have gone back to Carrington for a checkup with us and went to the match just because he was around.
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Am I the only one who's concerned about that dodgy knee of his and how it might affect his career?
The dreaded tendinitis got mentioned a while back, didn't it?
He's still growing though. All sorts of weird niggles can clear up when someone stops growing. Steve Gerrard was perma-crocked when he was Welbeck's age.
Welbeck injury blow for North End
Preston striker Danny Welbeck has been ruled out of Saturday's match against Nottingham Forest after suffering a reaction to his knee injury.
The Manchester United forward, 19, has sat out North End's last three games and boss Darren Ferguson admits he is still not sure about the full extent of the injury.
Ferguson said: "The way it is looking at the moment he will probably be going back there [Manchester United], he's going to have another scan on Monday but it's not looking good.
"It is a blow for the lad as well because he was really enjoying it here, he was at the game on Tuesday [against Doncaster] and the lads were pleased to see him.
"He was looking bubbly and raring to come back but unfortunately there has been a reaction to it so he won't be available on Saturday."
Preston striker Danny Welbeck has been ruled out of Saturday's match against Nottingham Forest after suffering a reaction to his knee injury.
The Manchester United forward, 19, has sat out North End's last three games and boss Darren Ferguson admits he is still not sure about the full extent of the injury.
Ferguson said: "The way it is looking at the moment he will probably be going back there [Manchester United], he's going to have another scan on Monday but it's not looking good.
"It is a blow for the lad as well because he was really enjoying it here, he was at the game on Tuesday [against Doncaster] and the lads were pleased to see him.
"He was looking bubbly and raring to come back but unfortunately there has been a reaction to it so he won't be available on Saturday."
He was back at United for treatment last week, can't imagine they'd let him go back if he wasn't 100%. So the fact that it's "reacted" so soon again is not good news.
According to SSN he looks like being out for the season.
Oh FFS
Preston wait on Welbeck deal
Ferguson hopes to bring United striker back to Deepdale
15th June 2010
Darren Ferguson remains confident of bringing Danny Welbeck back to Preston North End if the Manchester United youngster does not join another Premier League club.
Welbeck spent a spell on loan at Preston last season and scored twice in eight appearances before his campaign was cut short by a knee injury.
The 19-year-old is expected to be sent out on loan again next term and is currently hoping to secure a move to a top-flight club.
However, if that avenue fails to bear fruit, then Preston boss Ferguson is expecting to be have the striker at his disposal in the Championship.
Frustrated
"I've been speaking to Danny and his brother, who looks after his interests, and things are ongoing on that front," Ferguson told the Lancashire Evening Post.
"My feeling is that they think it's right to try and get him out on loan to a Premier League club. But if that doesn't happen, if he comes to a Championship club, it will be us.
"One of the difficult things in signing players on loan from the Premier League is that their clubs often want them to do pre-season training with them.
"It's only closer to the start of the season that they're allowed out. That could be the case with Danny but, if so, we know what we are getting.
"He enjoyed his time here last season and was frustrated the loan was cut short by his injury.
"I'm looking for another striker this summer, one with more pace than we've got."
Think id prefer him to have a full season in the Championship rather than a bit part stop start one with a relegation candidate in the premiership
Ferguson hopes to bring United striker back to Deepdale
15th June 2010
Darren Ferguson remains confident of bringing Danny Welbeck back to Preston North End if the Manchester United youngster does not join another Premier League club.
Welbeck spent a spell on loan at Preston last season and scored twice in eight appearances before his campaign was cut short by a knee injury.
The 19-year-old is expected to be sent out on loan again next term and is currently hoping to secure a move to a top-flight club.
However, if that avenue fails to bear fruit, then Preston boss Ferguson is expecting to be have the striker at his disposal in the Championship.
Frustrated
"I've been speaking to Danny and his brother, who looks after his interests, and things are ongoing on that front," Ferguson told the Lancashire Evening Post.
"My feeling is that they think it's right to try and get him out on loan to a Premier League club. But if that doesn't happen, if he comes to a Championship club, it will be us.
"One of the difficult things in signing players on loan from the Premier League is that their clubs often want them to do pre-season training with them.
"It's only closer to the start of the season that they're allowed out. That could be the case with Danny but, if so, we know what we are getting.
"He enjoyed his time here last season and was frustrated the loan was cut short by his injury.
"I'm looking for another striker this summer, one with more pace than we've got."
Think id prefer him to have a full season in the Championship rather than a bit part stop start one with a relegation candidate in the premiership
Definitely. He'd be a starter for Preston which would be beneficial for him in the long run.
There are very few teams he'd be a starter for in the Premier league. It could end up like Rossi's loan spell at Newcastle.
What Welbeck needs most of all, in my opinion, is to realize that he is a fantastically talented player. We sometimes denigrate arrogance in players, but if Welbeck had half of the self-belief that, say, Ronaldo does, he probably wouldn't be going out on loan, at all.
Admittedly, the fact that Sir Alex often uses young players our of position can contribute to that lack of confidence, but you could also argue that it's a test for them. I have few doubts that Welbeck is talented enough to become a Manchester United first team player, but he is also probably the player that most confirms the difficulty in making the final step up from youth and reserve team football in to the first team, particularly in the positions where you are exposed simply for not winning your team a game, even if you actually perform quite well.
Admittedly, the fact that Sir Alex often uses young players our of position can contribute to that lack of confidence, but you could also argue that it's a test for them. I have few doubts that Welbeck is talented enough to become a Manchester United first team player, but he is also probably the player that most confirms the difficulty in making the final step up from youth and reserve team football in to the first team, particularly in the positions where you are exposed simply for not winning your team a game, even if you actually perform quite well.
I read a few times that Blackpool are interested, depending on what their striking options for next season are, it would be good if he goes there.
I think he is on verge of breaking through at the Premier League level. We have to keep in mind that he is still just 19 and for a striker that is quite young. I think we shouldn't really be judging him till 21-22 (he might well prove himself before that but we should be patient and i am sure that the club will be patient with him)
I think he is on verge of breaking through at the Premier League level. We have to keep in mind that he is still just 19 and for a striker that is quite young. I think we shouldn't really be judging him till 21-22 (he might well prove himself before that but we should be patient and i am sure that the club will be patient with him)