Day 20: Sweden vs Switzerland and Colombia vs England

What is 'coming home'?


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If England doesn't have it easy enough with their draw, Sweden winning, Colombia without James, they just want to play against 10 men. I mean feck sakes, earn it and score a goal or two. Clearly England are the better team and have to apply themselves a lot better in the second half.

The fact that this non-red card is the talking point shows how shit the quality was in the first half aside from one decent chance worked by Lingard and Trippier to Kane.
 
Shoulder barged Sterling for no reason as he walked off for half time :lol:

So this is all the gameplan, hoping for a Beckham/Rooney reaction? I just don't understand it from the POV that if a player gets sent off or scores an own goal, Colombia is the worst team to represent. If you live there that is, or have any family members there.
 
The most exhilarating moment of the 1st half was watching Wes Brown sit next to Lothar Matthaus.
 
Should have been a red for Colombia, even if it was only a small movement it's still intentionally violent conduct.

We haven't done enough, too weak through the middle, need someone to get stuck in.
 
That was a clear red but Henderson didn’t cover himself in glory too, going down like an idiot. Tops to Lingard for defending Henderson though. Really don’t like these colombian drama queens. Anyway, COME ON ENGLAND!

P.S. @Rajma mate why is a double headbutt, no matter how soft it was, not a red card in your opinion? I don’t understand.
I think it would have been very soft one considering the circumstances, the ref got it spot on for me, it wasn’t excessive enough for me to make such a big decision and leave Columbia with a men down for the rest of the game.

He was very stupid to do that but at the same time he clearly didn’t want to headbutt Henderson’s chin and went for a chest to shove him away from standing in the wall, should have used his hands it wouldn’t have looked this bad then.
 
According to every actual winner.

We need to stop heing polite and naive and start being shithouses

I see what you mean, but if everyone did the same on every occasion, we'd descend into chaos.
 
We’ve created nothing, for all the comfortable passing at the back, absolutely nothing.

People remarked on it after Tunisia that Kane hadn’t really had many chances in open play.

Colombia have had all the shots and fecked them up.

Plus when they counter we only have Henderson in midfield so when he gets hypassed we’re reliant on the 3 at the back.

And Colombia are shithouses who know hpw to be niggly and game the ref, we have nobody of that nature. Sterling is being picked on.

Alli is injured yet I bet he stays on and for far too long like against Tunisia.

Unless we score from a set piece, which currently looks unlikely cause they’ve been wank tonight, it’s going to ET and then pens and we’ll lose on pens.

Unless one of the likes of Quintero capitalises on the fact that they’ve been winning the second balls after headers/clearances from our defenders.

Colombia should definitely be down to 10 men. Barrios should’ve been sent off through VAR.

England have had 8 shots compared to Colombias 4. The problem is that most of our shots are either off target or blocked. We just need to step it up a gear and be clinical again.

Colombia will tire the longer into the game we go and that will open up space. Rashford and/or Vardy should come on later and take advantage of that. The problem we've had is that Colombia have sat deep and defended in numbers which is proved difficult for us to break down.

We should be trying to use Lingard and Trippier on the right more imo.
 
Don't blame the ref for not giving a red card. As Mark Clattenburg pointed out on ITV, the ref didn't see the infraction, but did refer it to VAR. It was the VAR official, not the ref, who advised only a yellow. The referee, under current VAR rules, isn't allowed to review the play himself.
 
Another strawman. So now it isnt the commentators praising it, it's whether Alli fouls or not. Where shall we go next?

Not violent conduct? :lol: He's used his head to butt another player. What the feck do you call it then? A meaty challenge?

It's not violent conduct, it's a yellow. It's petulant conduct. If it was real violent conduct detrimental to the player's safety, then he would have been sent off. It's not a clear red because he would have been sent off yes?
 
He moves it to his head after.

It's one thing being anti England but when you just lie and change the facts, it's sad. (And I'm not English)

I'm not talking about that incident. You said the rules say any headbutt is dangerous play and a red, regardless of force and intent. I'm saying the ref should be allowed to use common sense and discretion, taking into account force and intent.
 
We're losing this, it has that feel to it.
They've drawn us into the type of game they want so we're giving them a chance, if we get back to playing football instead of all this petty bollocks we should win it.
 
England playing well. Colombia scared of Sterling's pace and giving Kane even a sniff of a chance in the 18 yard box. Result: Colombia can only hoof the ball up front, not a bad tactic if you have, er, a Sterling up front.
 
He moves it to his head after.

It's one thing being anti England but when you just lie and change the facts, it's sad. (And I'm not English)
Not dangerous play so no red according to @kps88. So Sterling can just slap their CB and it's just a yellow. Not dangerous, right?