Agreed, unless he makes it clear he doesn't want to stay here and wants to join Madrid, at which point it would be a bit pointless to keep him.
De Gea Contract Situation
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Agreed, unless he makes it clear he doesn't want to stay here and wants to join Madrid, at which point it would be a bit pointless to keep him.
you know, even if he did put in a transfer request i'd deny it, or at a minimum tell him to sign a new long term deal with a buy out clause of €50 million or something.
He owes us as far as i'm concerned, United have turned him from a thin wiry kid into something approaching world class, and him helping us extract the maximum value possible from RM is the least he can do.
His apparent silence, even with the club, might already be doing that.
I agree though in principle. If we can't get a player we want from them, or at least a suitable fee, I hope we play hardball.
I hope it doesn't drag on ideally. I think the inevitable outcome is that he'll go to Madrid this summer, but we need to look after ourselves.
Not necessarily. He may want to join Madrid if we're willing to let him go, hence the silence. But that doesn't mean we have to capitulate as he doesn't seem unhappy here. Its understandable that as a Madrid lad, he would want to go there. We can accommodate that as long as our interests are protected, as in, Madrid make a player who we want available to us. They've already gouged us on Di Maria so they need to throw us a bone to make this happen.
Completely agree with that sentence.
I have no problem with letting DeGea go, just as long as we get a great deal, if the deal is below par then let him play or warm the bench here for another 12 months, if Real want him that much they can pay through the nose or send some players we might want our way.
If Real are not prepared to put their money where their mouth(s) are then maybe DeGea should have a think about just how much they really want him, especially when they have no issues paying £50m + for outfield players without a seeming second thought!
If Real are not prepared to put their money where their mouth(s) are then maybe DeGea should have a think about just how much they really want him, especially when they have no issues paying £50m + for outfield players without a seeming second thought!
It is not really savings though since the contract is not signed. we are not saving that money whether we selling this summer or keep him this year since the contract to pay him 200k per week does not exist. Maybe it is just the accountant in me that would never be able to get away with calling that savings since there is no actual obligation to pay that amount. The inane theories in this thread are great laughs.
It all depends on if we can build what Van Gaal sees as the perfect side in this window. If we get all the pieces in place to have a good go at the league and CL then keep him this season. If we don't and he feels we're a couple of signings away I'd sell him and give our new keeper/valdes a year to get used to being our number one as I think we'll improve a lot on last year anyway(no settling in, back 3, hopefully less injuries
) meaning we'll finish top four at least if he stays or goes.
So yeah Keep if we have a realistic shot of the big two and sell if we feel we're a little short still
) meaning we'll finish top four at least if he stays or goes.So yeah Keep if we have a realistic shot of the big two and sell if we feel we're a little short still
I'd be looking to do what best for the club.
Evra last season was a player i'd get where he wanted to go and not be too picky about transfer fees or whatever.
De Gea isn't, its been a mutually beneficial arrangement, i get why he wants to go, I just wouldn't be inclined to bend over and strengthen a competitor on his behalf.
Part of whats best for the club is not keeping players who want to be elsewhere though imo.
I'd sit down and deal with real and try and get a good deal for the club.
If they want to take the piss and low ball with numbers i'd walk away but I'd still try and move de gea on.
Theres good replacements this summer.
Keeping players against their will just looks kind of small time anyway.
Were good enough to attract a replacement
Evra last season was a player i'd get where he wanted to go and not be too picky about transfer fees or whatever.
De Gea isn't, its been a mutually beneficial arrangement, i get why he wants to go, I just wouldn't be inclined to bend over and strengthen a competitor on his behalf.
Part of whats best for the club is not keeping players who want to be elsewhere though imo.
I'd sit down and deal with real and try and get a good deal for the club.
If they want to take the piss and low ball with numbers i'd walk away but I'd still try and move de gea on.
Theres good replacements this summer.
Keeping players against their will just looks kind of small time anyway.
Were good enough to attract a replacement
Fully agree and van Gaal has also confirmed he will let any player go who does not want to play for him. He's a family man and he will understand de Gea's decision, I also do hope the club show some balls and get a good deal for him since he's that good. He is replaceable but it would be terrible business to make a loss on buying a new keeper.
I just want it to end. The whole situation. If he wants to go, go on then, I hope we'll get a nice fee and lets go find a replacement.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/596/exc...nited-i-want-to-join-real-madrid?ICID=HP_BN_1
Duncan Castles on goal.com, can't be more reliable than that.
Duncan Castles on goal.com, can't be more reliable than that.
Umm..
You're still being taken for mugs though - it's only 1 more season...and the reason he isn't renewing is because of Madrid - so how are you not being taken for mugs still?
Madrid would still want him if his performances drop. Although I agree with Valdes waiting then LvG could just drop him.
For me it's simple, if he wants to go then just let him now - get some good money in and spend it on someone like Lloris. He isn't as good as De Gea no, but he is still top class and most importantly would be loyal not day dreaming about a move back to Spain...
Yep, I don't think trying to keep him for another year against his will and giving up on a significant fee that'd very likely be sufficient to bring in a fine replacement would be an awesome move at all, nor would it prove that we're somehow bigger.
I think he will fail at Real Madrid. Pressure will be huge, especially if Casillas sticks around, and he will feel it greatly. It affected him a lot in his first season here but we were very, very patient and closed an eye on his errors, Ferguson offered him a lot of support when media were on his back. It won't happen at Madrid at all.
Wow nice to a man well linked into club matters
I couldn't disagree with this any more. He was only 20 years old when he arrived at United and even then he was mostly calm and dealt with the pressure well. There were even comparisons with VDS regarding his calm nature early doors. If he goes to Madrid, he will be a huge success, just as much of a guaranteed success I knew Ronaldo would be for them.
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I'm not so sure about that. He's always been given some amount of slack and protection which won't be there at Real Madrid. Let's see how he copes in a hostile environment.
He's a world class player and a different person mentally as opposed to the kid that arrived here. I honestly don't see how those comparisons are even relevant now. He went to the Bernabeu three seasons ago and played a stormer and that was a time when the English media were slating him.
You are right. DDG is just too good to fail on one hand, and on the other hand very strong mentally. He got a lot of critisism here, and eventhough Fergie protected him, he showed tremendous strength.
I hope United gave him and RM a deadline so this issue will be over one way or another
I'm wavering on changing to a No vote, please hold me
I just hope this is all resolved soon, even if he does go. Dragging on way too long at the moment.
I'm surprised Real didn't get this finalised over the weekend so they could take the headlines away from Barcelona.
Wouldn't that be just too small time.
Isn't the whole RM small time ?
You'd like to think not.
Saw a football twitter account last night who said he wasn't world class 
I wish they were in charge at Madrid
I wish they were in charge at Madrid
Duncan Castles, Goal.com
Also like the line that his advisors are telling him not to move, but he's ignoring them because the lure of Real Madrid is so strong. lol, no Duncan.
Also like the line that his advisors are telling him not to move, but he's ignoring them because the lure of Real Madrid is so strong. lol, no Duncan.
I'm wavering on changing to a No vote, please hold me
I'm changing too, it's been over for me for weeks but I can finally admit it out loud now.
I think your inner-accountant is playing tricks on you.
If we sell him this summer, we need a replacement. If the replacement is anywhere near as good as Davy, he's going to cost quite a bit more than 50k/week. We would save precisely that wage difference between DdG's and our new keeper's wage by holding onto cheap DdG for his last year. This really sounds inane to you?
They didn't park their cars next to eachother, he is staying
Or maybe Casillas is pissed that he will be no. 2 at RM next season...
The original post did not make that comparison though he was comparing the supposed 200k the de Gea turned down. So nice try but you are moving the goalposts of the discussion Got no time for people who try to win discussions that way welcome to my ignore list.
It's clearly not a theory, we have offered DDG £200 k per wk, he could sign tomorrow and we would pay him that, if he doesn't sign and sees out his final year with us then he will receive his current £50 k per week, therefore the 'saving' for that year is £7.6 million, this can be deducted off any potential fee RM would pay us now to find the true worth of the bid.
We don't have to actually have the money coming out of the bank account to know this is what would happen.
We wouldn't let them have him when they want/need him, there would be the threat of the transfer ban hanging over them, it's another year to work on him signing up, there is also the chance he will pull off the saves to win us the PL, or just to get us in the top 4 again which is worth £50 million+, these are very good reason imo,
Your last point about getting 'good' money for DDG and signing Lioris would be valid if Madrid offered us good money, likelihood is we'd pay more Lloris than they'd give us for DDG which would be shocking business.
Fecking hell.... They really dislike each other.
Anywhoo, all I could think whilst watching that is why is Dave driving a Mini? Isn't it too small for him.
Anywhoo, all I could think whilst watching that is why is Dave driving a Mini? Isn't it too small for him.
He's sending us a code.
M.i.n.i. 4 letters.
Man-ches-ter U-ni-ted. 6 syllables.
6 minus 4 is 2.
Casillas. 1 word.
Dave is short for David.
"Casillas will be #1 at Real, I don't want to be #2 so I'm staying at United. Dave is short for David."
Agreed.
He is one of the best young goalkeepers out there. He will be very successful, though as far as trophies are concerned there is the small matter of Barca in the league and then the likes of Bayern, Barca, Chelsea in the CL. He has as much chance of success at United, but it is probably not where his heart is now.
I think United always get taken for a ride on Transfers (buying or selling), so I would just like us to make a point with DDG. We are under no obligation to sell, if we do not get the true market value I would hold off selling. DDG is professional and knows he will get Madrid (if that is his desire) so no need to rock the boat.
Changed mine about a month ago, go on, come to the pessimistic side. It's fecking sucksI'm wavering on changing to a No vote, please hold me
I think beating Juve and lifting a 5th European Cup would knock the transfer of a goalie out of the headlines, Real or not.
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