Perhaps an increase in livability or modernization of Spain in that time is another factor?
De Gea Contract Situation
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Perhaps an increase in livability or modernization of Spain in that time is another factor?
Has there been any indication of him putting in an official transfer request? Since he is clearly forcing us into this situation against the will of United, shouldn't we be requiring him to do that prior to the eventual transfer to avoid having to pay him any of the transfer fee, or are such bonus/loyalty arrangements in contracts less common than I realise?
Madrid fans aren't that bothered whether he comes to them or not - Casillas is a legend there and he's only just turned 34.
From what I've read, there's even reluctance in many of their fans as to whether or not they want de Gea.
He is a better player then what he was at Madrid so his fee should be higher then what it was when we bought him. The fees that are being thrown around now are insulting, he wasn't a world beater at Madrid he was a talented up and coming keeper and now thanks to United he is a world beater. He should show some respect to the club who gave him support and respect when he struggled and sign a new deal with a RM clause. Of course this is assuming he doesn't want to sign a new deal i am not saying that is fact till he actually leaves.
You know there are other variables, right?
Of course i do like 1 year left on his contract. Thing is United doesn't need to sell DDG they can let his contract run out and let him go on a free. RM need to factor that in also.
We wanted to sell Becks, he didn't actively seek a move like Ronaldo.
That's more of a standard statement every player makes when he joins one of the top clubs (Or when a shit player joins Liverpool). Ronaldo was the only one who really pushed for a move to Real from us.
I don't think he owes us that, but I also don't we owe him any kind of move to Real Madrid. Thus, if we don't get a worthwhile fee, we should keep him, so he can help us make a run at the league.
Yes Chelsea did not take much of a chance but I also think United didn't take a big "chance" either.
Madrid....HA!
Prefer the Arndale myself.....Has a WHS smiths.
Trafford Centre has a Thomas Sabo shop for the women.....What more do they want?!
Greed!
Prefer the Arndale myself.....Has a WHS smiths.
Trafford Centre has a Thomas Sabo shop for the women.....What more do they want?!
Greed!
He wasn't a nobody, no, but he was still a raw prospect. United and our coaches have every right to feel responsible for his development since. Physically alone, he's changed dramatically (crediting the club for forcing him to get bigger and stronger) and this year, under Hoek, he's stepped up his game to an undisputably world class level. He learns well but he's also had top coaching.
I don't think that means he owes us anything, per se, but that attitude can cut both ways. We're under no obligation or financial pressure to sell, or even play him for that matter. Just pay him for one more season, which is a relatively meager £2.6m. I'm sure he'd love a year on the bench before the Euros. That's the bit of leverage we do have so why shouldn't we threaten to exploit that as well?
And of course, all that could be avoided if Real pay something a little closer to a decent price for him. In no universe is that £18m. If DDG and his agent want the move that badly, they need to force us.
We just have to be really rude with Madrid, like all the club does when they are negociating with them. When they want a player, they usually get him. And they are the best at doing that.
Anyway, I don't understand two things. The first, why we didn't gave him a contract extension after our last title. Fergie should have done that, and Moyes unstead of signing Nani and Rooney should have extended him also.
And the second thing is that we're interested in Benzema, but we all know that Benzema will not leave Madrid. In general, Madrid offload his player to make the way for another. IF Aguero comes to Madrid, then Benzema will be free, but for the moment we just have to negotiate a good fee for De Gea and make sure we take one somebody we realy need like Varane or Carvajal, and maybe coming back in August (after an agreement with them) for Benzema.
Anyway, I don't understand two things. The first, why we didn't gave him a contract extension after our last title. Fergie should have done that, and Moyes unstead of signing Nani and Rooney should have extended him also.
And the second thing is that we're interested in Benzema, but we all know that Benzema will not leave Madrid. In general, Madrid offload his player to make the way for another. IF Aguero comes to Madrid, then Benzema will be free, but for the moment we just have to negotiate a good fee for De Gea and make sure we take one somebody we realy need like Varane or Carvajal, and maybe coming back in August (after an agreement with them) for Benzema.
I think we should just keep him for his final season. What use is it to us selling him on the cheap? We paid 18 million for him or whatever it was I think we've got our £ out of him. If he wants to leave on a free then let him go next year.
One positive from him not signing a new contract is that hes been underpaid over his last few seasons.
One positive from him not signing a new contract is that hes been underpaid over his last few seasons.
All that tells me, is they're idiots. That's all. Any one with brains knows one is on the way up and other the way down...
I'm surprised there are still 44% of people who think he will stay. I thought I was a believer and I gave up a long time ago.
Adios.
He made a lot of mistakes in his first 2 out of 4 seasons and is now probably leaving. It was a chance.
Because it's not guaranteed he will be sold. How do you know the club wouldn't rather let his contract run out?
I suspect a lot of people haven't changed their votes.
The question in the poll is: Do you think David De Gea will still be at United next season? He definitely could be.
If the poll was: Do you think David De Gea will sign a new contract? The results would probably be very different.
I think there's still a reasonable chance he'll be here next season, if Madrid don't meet the valuation.
If the poll was: Do you think David De Gea will sign a new contract? The results would probably be very different.
I think there's still a reasonable chance he'll be here next season, if Madrid don't meet the valuation.
Chelsea are the sort of club that may well have frozen him out if he tried to play games with them. He definitely had a need to, as a young player who couldn't afford a year or two without playing, and had Cech as a more than capable alternative.
Anyway that you try to spin it, Courtois was only doing what was best for him.
This. If the poll was started again from scratch, I'm sure the yes brigade would be far fewer in number.
They probably are and saying no need to pay 40 mil if we can get him for free next year. That is one way they could be looking at it.
I don't. But I think that is highly unlikely.
I for one will appreciate all he's done for us and wish him well next season - wherever he is. Some people need to look back through the matchday threads and read the comments about him there - some people really are a lesson in fickle football supporters.
Maybe already said but with the prices been banded about in the media, keep him.
I don't doubt his professionalism, I'd rather have him for another year than the figures being banded about.
We get to keep one of the best keepers in the world for another year (an important year no less) and have a full 12 months knowning he's leaving and finding a replacement instead of hmming and haaing of well we might need to get this guy or that guy
And never know, 12 months is a long time he could decide/be persuaded to stay
Bottom line, 25million'ish, gtf not having that, year left or not
I don't doubt his professionalism, I'd rather have him for another year than the figures being banded about.
We get to keep one of the best keepers in the world for another year (an important year no less) and have a full 12 months knowning he's leaving and finding a replacement instead of hmming and haaing of well we might need to get this guy or that guy
And never know, 12 months is a long time he could decide/be persuaded to stay
Bottom line, 25million'ish, gtf not having that, year left or not
We've been trying to get him to sign an extension since at least the fall of 2013. It takes his signature to complete an extension not just us giving him one.
I doubt the club is hemming or hawing over the need of a replacement.
It won't be 12 months for him to change his mind, come January he can sign an agreement with Real. Possibly us refusing a deal won't do a lot to make him want to stay for longer.
You seem to have missed the main point I've made
I'd personally rather have him for another year than accept the money that's been touted in the media, he can go for a free next year.
In terms of the hmming and haaing, I don't think there can be much doubt the board having being trying their best to keep him, and thus I don't think they can fully commit to searching for a replacement if there's a chance he might sign.
If we say fine your staying and you can go on a free next year, they are 100% focused on finding a replacement, if we sell him now for (relevant) pittance we're just going to have to spend the majority of that fee on getting a keeper this summer (my view at least)
The making him stay longer thing is just an off the cuff comment and to be fair you never know what can happen in that 12 months. If it played out like this I wouldn't expect him to turn around and go yeah okay i'll stay, but if we preform and make key signings and become prominent in the league and Europe you just never know
Then they will have another trophy less season. What is more important to RM save money on a transfer and let Barcelona win everything again or get the players they need and challenge for silverware?
Us allowing him to move definitely won't make him stay longer either.
If we keep him for another year, He's the type of a player that I think makes mistakes if his mind isn't right and not one who can put those issues behind him and get on with it. He needs to be gone and we move on. A lesser keeper will be fine with a better defence. I think it should be that way around anyway if I had the option.
DeGea guaranteed trophies? They can also afford to buy someone else this summer then take David for free next. The point is our little revenge fantasies are nice but things might not always be the way we imagine it.
We should keep him for an extra year with the fee's being thrown around. If he moans, let him sit on the bench for a year while the Euro's are coming up. End of the day, the figure isn't a huge amount to potentially keep a world class keeper. I'd rather we were stubborn and said to Madrid "£40m or he's not leaving until next summer" and see their response. There is no way we should let him go for £35m or less, 1 year left on his contract or not.
Would it not go to tribunal if he left on a free next year?
How would other players and agents react towards United benching DeGea to score some fan ego points on Real Madrid? How will our fans react to DeGea knowing he is leaving on a free at the end of the season? Why would it in anyway change David's mind about leaving, wouldn't it make him want to leave more? Why does the fee matter to us fans at all, no evidence suggests we need it for our transfer kitty, the big concern should be that DeGea is leaving period?
He's too old for that I think. You'd get nothing.
Only for players under 24.
A moaning player you'd have to restrict to the bench is worthless. If they offer more than 20m I'd take it and play Valdes. Trying to feck over Madrid won't make a difference, they'll never learn.
I understand your sentiment but it would be very bad business and on top of that would damage the reputation of the club. If Real wants to pay 25-30mil euro and DDG really wants to leave we should sell. However if DDG is a true professional and does his utmost best next year, not selling is worth the consideration. However benching him while paying his wages, getting a replacement incl. his wages in and losing out on transfer fee would be ridiculously expensive.
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