Selling him for £18m would reflect even worse on us.
De Gea Contract Situation
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Selling him for £18m would reflect even worse on us.
Nah, that literally makes no plausible sense. Rolling over, accepting a measly fee, and letting him go will make United superior ? Struggling to see the rationale in that.. Isn't a better method for boosting United's image standing our ground until we get what we want, meanwhile creating unrest in Madrid's camp by unsettling Ramos ? Sergio or a record fee, Madrid can pick their poison. Even publications in Spain are lauding Woodward's business acumen. How exactly is that damaging to United ?
The bold is the basic flaw in your argument, you can't even get the basis of your point right.
Should we give him away for free then?, because I don't think Madrid has even bid yet.
This part bothers me, he hasn't put an official transfer request, if he wants to go he makes it official, otherwise United will ask as much as they feel is a right price and will take their time doing so.
An other thing, the club put the offer on the table months ago, when De Gea was still pretending that he might sign a new contract.
Is this how you make yourself feel better about Arsenal consistently losing all their best players over the years? That it would have been embarrassing to hold onto them.
The transfer window is barely open. De Gea will leave and we'll get our pound of flesh.
It's very simple.
Maybe because Real aren't always sniffing round your players and we might just have had enough of it. They think they can just flutter their eyelashes and we will give in, we are putting up a bit of a fight this time. It might actually make them think twice about it in future.
and you are totally bought into it which means you are a no brainer
certainly united is not proficient in selling players since unlike arsenal united are not a feeder club. but gooners are really least deserved to make a criticize in selling when they insisted one of jones/smalling to include into the deal when we tried to sign one of your want away defender, and need not to mentioned to insist on us to pay 24m on a 29 years old striker with one year left with his contract.
btw, do you need me to tell you how the figure of 24m came up?
a selling club won't ever understand the logic of big club transfers
and you must be a genius to come into a conclusion of refusing a contract worths 3x more money:
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Well you are talking to an Arsenal fan tbf
If he leaves he leaves, I just don't want him to be sold on the final day with no time to find a replacement.
My biggest nightmare in this whole saga, really. I applaud Ed for what he's doing, but please don't allow him to be sold at the last second of the window, even if we get an absurd fee for him.
My biggest nightmare in this whole saga, really. I applaud Ed for what he's doing, but please don't allow him to be sold at the last second of the window, even if we get an absurd fee for him.
Man please! We've already got a list of possible targets. United are just not going to roll over for Real. If they want him they need to meet our valuation, simple as that. I doubt Chelsea/Mourinho would just roll over if Real came in for Courtois, they'd make em pay through the nose and you know it!
Seems pretty clear @The Purist is on a WUM in here considering he's been online and failed to respond to all the people highlighting his nonsense.
Frankly, I'm embarrassed for him, amongst other things I'm clearly embarrassed about.
The entire Redcafe world is watching the thread and that includes lurkers. If they see @The Purist trying to pretend that he is serious, it isn't a good look for him.
Real are expected to announce Casillas's departure tomorrow. I think despite all the posturing in the media, this deal might be already done unfortunately.
Nicely put.
Personally I think that Purist is merely have a laugh at our expense. He knows we are losing our best player and he can't help but goad MUFC fans.
I've said this before though, I wouldn't let let him leave for any fee - we want to win trophies. We already have the biggest transfer budget...we now need the best players, not more money.
Even if we got £50M for him and replaced with Lloris, for example, it puts us in a weaker position.
Rumour has it that Madrid asked Chelsea for Courtois and CFC put a sky high price on him, which deterred Madrid.
We need to tell Madrid to take DDG next Summer and they can keep Ramos (which they will, anyway, as he loves Madrid).
I do wonder what would happen if Mourinho was with us - would he allow Woodward to even talk to Madrid about DDG.
While I agree that we shouldn't roll over and give de Gea away for peanuts to RM (we don't need it like you said), if that really is what David wants the club will cooperate if they receive a fair offer. LvG has always been open about that: if a player doesn't want to play for him he will be let go - but at the right price. I think that is the right stance, it's not fun to lose your best players but it happens and the club will move on.
Mourinho has said the same not too long ago using Hazard as an example. He said that even though he signed a contract, if he really wanted out Chelsea would accept an offer for him.
If the right offer doesn't come in I'm for keeping players to their contracts though.
Good. Because you were either WUMming or talking bullshit.
Starting to look more and more that he will be here this season and leave on a free next year.
With it looking likely that Ramos will stay, that's the only outcome I see. Or rather that's the only outcome that I can see that makes us look good.
With it looking likely that Ramos will stay, that's the only outcome I see. Or rather that's the only outcome that I can see that makes us look good.
Been thinking the same. Also, I've been wondering how the fans will take to him if he does play for us at OT again. That he didn't come out publicly and say he was a slave or anything is probably a point in his favour, but I doubt he'll be as warmly regarded as he has been this season (especially if he has a dip in form).
I feel like we got Valdez as insurance in case this happens.
Purist,I think that the wages difference are not so big.What I read is talking about 5m€net +bonus,anyway these last months euro-pound value has changed a lot and perhaps the press is confused.Obviously I agree about a sale for 18m£(I dont understand what you mean about the financial benefits of being stubborn),it's just my opinion but I think that the idea/hope of keeping a player in his last year is really naive
I'm rooting for the Casillas transfer to Porto to go through. The way I look at it, when he leaves, it gives us leverage on the De Gea fee because Madrid will be desperate. They're not going to be comfortable having Navas as their first choice keeper. If Casillas leaves, I demand 40 million plus or they can feck off and wait until next summer.
The cynic in me thinks that Madrid won't let Casillas go without knowing the De Gea is on his way. I hope you right though.
I have mentioned it before to you it didn't do Dortmund any harm keeping Lewondowski for his final year.
Aren't they about to announce Casilla?
I remember that you told me , but I don´t know how Borussia works or how it was the concrete situation or even the name of Lewandowski´s agent. Certainly it happened several times but I still think it is not the general rule, besides being Mendes involved changes everything in my opinion
If De Gea doesn't leave this summer, the situation could change. Madrid are already making changes in goal for this year and that person could turn out to be a long-term solution. De Gea might rethink his options based on the experience of this summer, I don't think it's gone as he planned. I don't think it's likely, but there is a possibility he could sign an extension.
Aye, that was a strange "opinion" indeed. How exactly is DDG embarrassing us? FFS.
I felt really strongly about this before. Now I just want it to be over. I'd love him to stay but the main thing is don't get the piss taken out of us. The guys worth 50 fecking million but I'd rather he went on a free than sold him for peanuts.
I think your putting a lot of faith in agents where United is concerned, if we don't want to sell then Mendes can do nothing.What is he going to do threaten to move Di Maria on if we don't sell you De Gea? Madrid either pay what we want or he stays
don't worry,Florentino doesn't care about our opinion,remember they also chanted to keep Ozil and he answered "please,silence"
don't worry,Florentino doesn't care about our opinion,remember they also chanted to keep Ozil and he answered "please,silence"
FFS, I wasn't aware of the "please, silence" bit Fecking Florentino. #boss.
Guy hasn't played in a year, and he'd only be a temporary stopgap anyway.
This should have been over by now. It's just bad for us. We've got our first game coming up in eight days and we have a keeper who if he's around is a definite starter, except we don't know if he'll be around for long.
Should have given Real an ultimatum - If you don't make a bid we'll accept by Monday, it's over. Forget about fecking Ramos and move on. It's not actually beneficial for us in a professional sense.
Should have given Real an ultimatum - If you don't make a bid we'll accept by Monday, it's over. Forget about fecking Ramos and move on. It's not actually beneficial for us in a professional sense.
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