De Gea Contract Situation

[Sandikan]

Oh for sure he's probably angry with his agent and RM, but he should also be angry with himself for taking a stupid decision. He's not a child, everybody knows that you cannot trust the RM hierarchy to do right by a player. Why take chances then? If you're negotiating with them, you should always ensure you're in a strong position. Should have ensured he signed an extension with us before engaging with Madrid in any kind of transfer talk. But (1) his agent Mendes probably thought 'I'm so powerful and United are pussies so no way will they make any trouble if De Gea wants to go" and (2) De Gea being the coward he is, fell for Madrid probably slyly suggesting to him that they wouldn't go for him if he signed an extension.

Bad move all around from De Gea and his camp underestimating Big Wooders

He could have done a Delph, threaten he will walk out for free, unless he can have a clause allowing a certain fee exit.
We could have set that at £30m which would have been fair, he'd have chalked up huge wages, Madrid would have had to find the money, and it would have been more satisfactory all round.

Clearly Madrid and Mendez have made sure he didn't even sign a new deal, presuming they'd run roughshod over us like they do everyone.

Arrogantly, they've let Casillas go already, when it's far from certain the De Gea move will happen. Hopefully they pay for that arrogance.

 

[Rado_N]

If I were him, I'd be fecking fuming at both the agent and RM.

Had he signed a new deal 18 months ago, he would not only be earning double what he is, that is nearly 6 million in lost earnings, but he would have the leverage to get higher wages, or at least matched wages from RM. Now hes on lowball money, and after obviously tapping him up, RM so value him they wont even stump up a reasonable price for him, and are leaving him to see his contract out.

Thats an absolute shitefest of decisions by his agent.

Yep, not to mention the risk of going into the season with no long term secure. What if he were to suffer a bad injury?

Some of the comments above criticising him for wanting to live in the same country as his missus are extraordinarily childish and petty. A wuss for wanting to live with his missus? Grow up.

 

[Kounan]

He could have done a Delph, threaten he will walk out for free, unless he can have a clause allowing a certain fee exit.
We could have set that at £30m which would have been fair, he'd have chalked up huge wages, Madrid would have had to find the money, and it would have been more satisfactory all round.

Clearly Madrid and Mendez have made sure he didn't even sign a new deal, presuming they'd run roughshod over us like they do everyone.

Arrogantly, they've let Casillas go already, when it's far from certain the De Gea move will happen. Hopefully they pay for that arrogance.

And we still lick this men balls, instead of telling him to fu*k off and stop dealing with him.

 

[carvajal]

Keeping him at the club for another season seems risky to me, even though he'd be very hard to replace. Although I love the club's stance on De Gea and the fact that we've stood up to Madrid, I believe that keeping a player who doesn't want to be here anymore, could potentially disrupt our season. He'd probably get some stick from the match-going fans, which could also disrupt his own performances.

For me, personally, it'd be shit knowing for a whole season that one of our best players would leave on a free and that he doesn't really want to be at the club anymore. That'd also put him under the microscope, with people constantly doubting his professionalism and scrutinizing every single thing he does. God forbid he makes a mistake - people would say it's because he doesn't give a shit etc. Deep inside we all knew that Ronaldo was going to sign for Madrid sooner or later as it was his ''dream'', but it'd have been much shittier knowing in advance exactly when it was going to happen. That'd be the case with De Gea.

I think him staying would bring some annoying negativity to the club and to us fans as well. I'm really divided here. On one hand I don't want us missing out on his transfer fee and all the things I just said, but on the other hand I love what Woody and the club are doing with Madrid, refusing to bent over to them and the thought of Ramos arriving at United excites me, even though it's not very realistic. It's still a nice ''what if'' though. I think, like with most things in life, there will be pros and cons no matter what happens or doesn't happen with De Gea this summer.

Good post Skorpy

 

[carvajal]

Poor ickle Madrid

You were told record fee, Ramos or sod off, don't like it when you don't get your own way arrogant club.

I think that is more about changing the players that want and sending the offers through a law firm.Probably Athletic thought that you were arrogant two years ago with that mess with Herrera or Atleti before that

 

[Oo0AahCantona]

Not sure if its been linked yet. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33568804

Essentially, De Gea is staying for another season unless we get Ramos.

We have a new policy of competing for the best players.

 

[C'est Moi Cantona]

There seems to have been alot of thought put into how we would approach the DDG this summer, Madrid were lured in to thinking it was a formality that they would sign him on the cheap this summer, but in reality we were busy finding ourselves a Madrid player that was unhappy and played an absolute blinder in that player been Ramos, whether we get him or not all that stuff a few weeks ago seems to have been genuine.

Even if they end up with DDG which is certainly not a formality,(he could be awful this season, that new guy Madrid have got/Navas could be fantastic, DDG might have a change of heart etc), then it'll make them think twice before they come knocking on our door again in future.

 

[VanGaalEra]

Feck Madrid.

 

[Scorpy]

Good post Skorpy

Thanks mate. Don't you have similar concerns over Ramos? His contract is not in danger of running out next summer, but your team could potentially have an unhappy captain next season if all these reports are true.

 

[Rake]

1 year is a lot in football. If we keep DDG there is a change he might sing a new contract. You just never know.

 

[Macabre Wolf]

I think that is more about changing the players that want and sending the offers through a law firm.Probably Athletic thought that you were arrogant two years ago with that mess with Herrera or Atleti before that

Yes but in both of your examples we ended up paying what the selling club wanted

 

[carvajal]

Thanks mate. Don't you have similar concerns over Ramos? His contract is not in danger of running out next summer, but your team could potentially have an unhappy captain next season if all these reports are true.

I don't like either however René Ramos was very noisy in 2011 before the previous renewal so I still don't know if it is a question of money or he really doesn't want to be here.If he says publicly then I would sell him.Your post explains well the feelings of the fans during the season and probably Ramos will be marked for the same people who whistled Iker.Anyway both players are really coward,hiding behind his agents.

 

[Jazz]

Yep, not to mention the risk of going into the season with no long term secure. What if he were to suffer a bad injury?

Some of the comments above criticising him for wanting to live in the same country as his missus are extraordinarily childish and petty. A wuss for wanting to live with his missus? Grow up.

Oh give it up. He is a wuss
Can't believe you still believe it's all because of the 'missus' that he wants to leave. It's so clear he wants to play for Madrid - that's it - end of.

 

[carvajal]

Yes but in both of your examples we ended up paying what the selling club wanted

Because the contracts were not about to finish.This is a question of enjoying a player one season or using 25 m€,more or less the money invested in the past to improve wages or buying someone else

 

[RuudTom83]

1 year is a lot in football. If we keep DDG there is a change he might sing a new contract. You just never know.

DDG can sign a contract for Madrid in January, similar to Vida signing for Inter...I'd love De Gea to have a change of heart and stay at United but Real can technically get him of nothing in little over 5 months time, even if he can't play for them until next season.

 

[FC Ronaldo]

Can we sign Scholes in May to put a reducer on him in training like he did to Rooney?

Spoiler

 

[Macabre Wolf]

Because the contracts were not about to finish.This is a question of enjoying a player one season or using 25 m€,more or less the money invested in the past to improve wages or buying someone else

A contract is a contract right until it expires, De Gea is worth more to us for one final season than the pittance your club is offering.It seems that your club has given up till next season and I am quite happy for DDG to sail off in the sunset in June 2016 knowing that his saves might have possibly won us one more title or at the very least top 4.

 

[legball]

I don't want to make a long post, but De Gea saga once again proves to me how stupidly overrated our association with Mendes is. Secondly, De Gea is not leaving because of his girlfriend, family or BS like that, stop being naive people. He wants to leave because he think he'll be better off professionally at Real Madrid, that's fine. I like the stance the club has taken, money is not our problem, therefore, we can afford to run down a contract, no problem.

 

[Jazz]

I don't want to make a long post, but De Gea saga once again proves to me how stupidly overrated our association with Mendes is. Secondly, De Gea is not leaving because of his girlfriend, family or BS like that, stop being naive people. He wants to leave because he think he'll be better off professionally at Real Madrid, that's fine. I like the stance the club has taken, money is not our problem, therefore, we can afford to run down a contract, no problem.

Good post.
And yeah, Mendes is an absolute tool. The club needs to start slowly but surely fecking him off imo.

 

[carvajal]

A contract is a contract right until it expires, De Gea is worth more to us for one final season than the pittance your club is offering.It seems that your club has given up till next season and I am quite happy for DDG to sail off in the sunset in June 2016 knowing that his saves might have possibly won us one more title or at the very least top 4.

With the amounts that are usually spent in the market to lose 25m€ can be profitable if United gets trophies,you are right but there are other factors,as Skorpy wrote:keeping a unhappy player,fan views during the season...I still think that United is bluffing

 

[Unlikely lad]

With the amounts that are usually spent in the market to lose 25m€ can be profitable if United gets trophies,you are right but there are other factors,as Skorpy wrote:keeping a unhappy player,fan views during the season...I still think that United is bluffing

As a Madrid fan, how bothered are you by getting/not getting De Gea?

 

[Rado_N]

Oh give it up. He is a wuss
Can't believe you still believe it's all because of the 'missus' that he wants to leave. It's so clear he wants to play for Madrid - that's it - end of.

I don't for one minute believe its all about that.

I do think it will be a factor though, and there have been an awful lot of people giving him shit over the notion of wanting to live with his missus, which is stupid.

 

[Jazz]

I don't for one minute believe its all about that.

I do think it will be a factor though, and there have been an awful lot of people giving him shit over the notion of wanting to live with his missus, which is stupid.

Look, I called him a wuss because I think he's acted a coward with this whole situation. I do not think he's a wuss because he wants to live with his missus - I probably did not make that clear. I frankly don't care about that aspect. All I see is that the missus is the icing on the cake - not the real reason being touted around by him and his people for him wanting to leave.

 

[Jazz]

With the amounts that are usually spent in the market to lose 25m€ can be profitable if United gets trophies,you are right but there are other factors,as Skorpy wrote:keeping a unhappy player,fan views during the season...I still think that United is bluffing

No chance

 

[Rado_N]

Look, I called him a wuss because I think he's acted a coward with this whole situation. I do not think he's a wuss because he wants to live with his missus - I probably did not make that clear. I frankly don't care about that aspect. All I see is that the missus is the icing on the cake - not the real reason being touted around by him and his people for him wanting to leave.

...

Have to say but Big Dave does sound like a wuss. Can't be without his girlfriend blah blah
Quite frankly I'm pretty sure his reasons are a mixture of wanting to always play for Madrid and/or being Spain's No.1.

Anyway you're far from the only one, and I'm talking about the general point that lots of people are doing it.

 

[carvajal]

As a Madrid fan, how bothered are you by getting/not getting De Gea?

He is not in my heart yet,I mean,he played in Atletico,he never showed publicly sympathy for the club and he would come after a legend left, although I'd like to see him here to be sure that he will be starter in the national team.He has a lot to prove.He is a great goalkeeper but honestly I would be more excited for a attacking midfielder or a striker.30/35m€ would be my limit(easy to say since the money is not mine ),if not I would give a chance to Keylor

 

[Jazz]

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Anyway you're far from the only one, and I'm talking about the general point that lots of people are doing it.

It was a throwaway remark for goodness sakes

 

[legball]

Good post.
And yeah, Mendes is an absolute tool. The club needs to start slowly but surely fecking him off imo.

Yep, Mendes has his loyalty to Real Madrid and Perez, naive of United to think otherwise. I am happy that for once, we are actually putting our foot down.

 

[Van Gaalacticos]

Would everyone rather keep an unhappy De Gea or sign a keeper who wants to be at United?

As much as I rate and like De Gea I'd much rather just ship him out and get someone who wants to be here. On principle I'd rather sell him to Barca or Atletico but I don't really think that's an option. My personal choice now Cech is at Arsenal is Oblak. Not being funny but there are keepers out there just as good as De Gea.

 

[Van Gaalacticos]

He is not in my heart yet,I mean,he played in Atletico,he never showed publicly sympathy for the club and he would come after a legend left, although I'd like to see him here to be sure that he will be starter in the national team.He has a lot to prove.He is a great goalkeeper but honestly I would be more excited for a attacking midfielder or a striker.30/35m€ would be my limit(easy to say since the money is not mine ),if not I would give a chance to Keylor

Take it from me that De Gea has proved everything he needs to at United already. He should wise up and stay in my opinion, he'd be a legend at United but regardless of how he plays would he be a legend at Real? I'm not so sure myself, maybe. What do you feel De Gea still has to prove?

 

[J-Stander]

Would everyone rather keep an unhappy De Gea or sign a keeper who wants to be at United?

As much as I rate and like De Gea I'd much rather just ship him out and get someone who wants to be here. On principle I'd rather sell him to Barca or Atletico but I don't really think that's an option. My personal choice now Cech is at Arsenal is Oblak. Not being funny but there are keepers out there just as good as De Gea.

It's about the principle now. Maybe if he came out in public and said he wanted to leave it'd be different but they thought we'd accept any measly offer and Woodward is basically telling them to do one. Fair play to him.

 

[Jazz]

Would everyone rather keep an unhappy De Gea or sign a keeper who wants to be at United?

As much as I rate and like De Gea I'd much rather just ship him out and get someone who wants to be here. On principle I'd rather sell him to Barca or Atletico but I don't really think that's an option. My personal choice now Cech is at Arsenal is Oblak. Not being funny but there are keepers out there just as good as De Gea.

I think he will be fine if he stays for one season. The match going fans won't give him hell - that would be counterproductive and we're just not like that. He actually doesn't have time to pout with Euro 2016 coming up and with Madrid waiting in the wings - his performances need to stay top notch. So I wouldn't worry if he has to stay another season.

However, I do think it might be wise to get someone else in and play them in the Carling or FA Cup games just to get them settled in. Depending on how he performs, perhaps he could take over more games, once De Gea signs his pre-contract in January? And if by chance De Gea's form drops off, at least someone's there to take his place?? I dunno really..

 

[Damien]

I'd rather keep. Doesn't matter if he's unhappy, he'll still be performing. And having De Gea could be the difference between going for the title and another season of third/fourth. We're making changes all over the pitch, selling De Gea and bringing in another keeper isn't really what we need right now.

 

[Man of Leisure]

Shoutout to all the posters who were adamant DDG was leaving this season.

Still not over yet, but I'm gladly willing to be proven wrong.

I absolutely love that the club are taking this stance.

Yup. Feck Real Madrid.

 

[shivab]

I would love it if we somehow cut a deal with barca for swapping de gea with ter stegen and some cash. If nothing, at least news of that would push ramos's transfer ....I'm just hatching random plans to screw Madrid over. God I hate that football club/circus

 

[carvajal]

Take it from me that De Gea has proved everything he needs to at United already. He should wise up and stay in my opinion, he'd be a legend at United but regardless of how he plays would he be a legend at Real? I'm not so sure myself, maybe. What do you feel De Gea still has to prove?

One of the most famous journalists in Spain,Santiago Segurola,wrote that is not the same Old Trafford and Bernabeu,that the pressure is not the same ,being very big the expectation created.People knows that he didn't want to play with Iker so he will have to prove that is more than excellent. What he did in England won't be valid anymore,he is starting as the substitute of Iker,fans and press will inmediately compare them.

 

[Van Gaalacticos]

One of the most famous journalists in Spain,Santiago Segurola,wrote that is not the same Old Trafford and Bernabeu,that the pressure is not the same ,being very big the expectation created.People knows that he didn't want to play with Iker so he will have to prove that is more than excellent. What he did in England won't be valid anymore,he is starting as the substitute of Iker,fans and press will inmediately compare them.

Suppose staying at United maybe makes sense for him too then.

Edit - for one more season

 

[clarkydaz]

One of the most famous journalists in Spain,Santiago Segurola,wrote that is not the same Old Trafford and Bernabeu,that the pressure is not the same ,being very big the expectation created.People knows that he didn't want to play with Iker so he will have to prove that is more than excellent. What he did in England won't be valid anymore,he is starting as the substitute of Iker,fans and press will inmediately compare them.

excellent, hope you have plenty of dogs abuse for him. To be fair if that's the case its likely better he doesn't come in immediately after Iker. A bit like Moyes following ferguson. How will Atletico fans look on him when he moves?

 

[NK86]

I think he will be fine if he stays for one season. The match going fans won't give him hell - that would be counterproductive and we're just not like that. He actually doesn't have time to pout with Euro 2016 coming up and with Madrid waiting in the wings - his performances need to stay top notch. So I wouldn't worry if he has to stay another season.

However, I do think it might be wise to get someone else in and play them in the Carling or FA Cup games just to get them settled in. Depending on how he performs, perhaps he could take over more games, once De Gea signs his pre-contract in January? And if by chance De Gea's form drops off, at least someone's there to take his place?? I dunno really..

I completely agree with your second para. Get someone of quality in. Get him settled with games in the cup competitions and then if he is ready ease DDG out of the line up post new year and let the new guy become our #1.

 

[NK86]

Good post.
And yeah, Mendes is an absolute tool. The club needs to start slowly but surely fecking him off imo.

I like what Sporting have done. Removed all the players who were his clients and are no longer buying playera represented by him. We should do exactly that. If players want to come here, they can sod him off as their agent. Start hitting him where it will hurt most, his pocket. High time we put him in his place.