I think he might stay then sign for Madrid for free next season.
De Gea Contract Situation
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Going on tour, keeping his mouth shut...he's got to be at least somewhat comfortable with the idea of seeing the contract out. If he stays, you can bet it will be awkward when he gets asked about moving over and over but that shouldn't stop him from remaining professional and trying to get a starting place for the Euros. Of course, it will be interesting to see how he reacts to the OT crowd turning on him when Real announce his pre-contract in January.
If he stays I think that he will be professional and will do his best.Old Trafford will know to appreciate his four years in the club but I also think that will be substitute in Euro
Yeah, if he stays on without making a fuss United fans won't turn on him.
Right now it's the best we can hope for - and if anything fans will be grateful for him giving us a final season.
Right now it's the best we can hope for - and if anything fans will be grateful for him giving us a final season.
What we need now is for Navas to play a blinder next season whilst they win the league and for us to win the league and the CL.
Who says we want Lloris? Manchester isn't Lloris' home, either. Madrid and Real Madrid will have a massive drag for someone like De Gea.
will change nothing mate.
i feel we are over reacting on this. DDG is a professional footballer. he signed a contract, will full fill it and that's about it. If doesnt want to be here - well that's his choice. Man United did not marry DDG, United hired him.
True, any other club but Madrid and it probably would. They will get DDG no matter what.
It would be interesting what type of reception he will get at OT and away as the season progresses especially if rumours persists on him leaving for a free.
Its funny that people think the crowd will turn on DDG.
DDG will win games for us - there is no question about this. He has been our best player for the last 2 years and will probably be the same this year. And the crowd will love him for it.
Madrid know what they are getting. They want the best and DDG is the best.
David Moyes got a standing ovation when he was in the process of destroying this club. The same Moyes who broke a host of negative records in his season in charge. The crowd applauded him for this.
This same crowd gave Falcao a standing ovation when he played his last game for us. A player who was so woeful that he could barely stay on his feet. A mercenary who earned big money for scoring 4 goals.
Using logic, the same crowd should line the streets of Manchester, while wearing DDG football shirts, holding 'DDG we love you' banners, for the good work which DDG has done for us.
DDG will win games for us - there is no question about this. He has been our best player for the last 2 years and will probably be the same this year. And the crowd will love him for it.
Madrid know what they are getting. They want the best and DDG is the best.
David Moyes got a standing ovation when he was in the process of destroying this club. The same Moyes who broke a host of negative records in his season in charge. The crowd applauded him for this.
This same crowd gave Falcao a standing ovation when he played his last game for us. A player who was so woeful that he could barely stay on his feet. A mercenary who earned big money for scoring 4 goals.
Using logic, the same crowd should line the streets of Manchester, while wearing DDG football shirts, holding 'DDG we love you' banners, for the good work which DDG has done for us.
I don't think we'll hear nearly as much David de Gea chants this season, but I could be wrong. He obviously won't get booed or anything like that but I feel there's a change in how many of us feel about him.
defo, respectful at best. will be strange running to the stretty before kick off from now on
If De Gea stays at United this season but doesn't sign a new contract, this would be very disrespectful to the club who have invested so much into his development towards being the best shot stopper in the world.
If we wants to leave why is he going to sign a new contract? to allow his club to demand a crazy amount that will prevent any transfer?
As I said, the reason is to repay the club's investment into his development. It seems wrong to me to just walk away as the best goalkeeper in the world, and United get nothing in return.
Look how Real have treated Casillas compared to how we've treated De Gea. He would not be the keeper he is without us, and he should have this in his heart as strongly as his desire to go to Madrid.
That's poor logic. Had Falcao signed for us permanently a year ago and had a terrific season only to express a desire to leave the moment another big club expressed interest, he would have been much more likely to get booed than while trying to perform but failing to do so (like he did). Same goes for Moyes. Or Forlan - he did 1,000 000 times less for us than Rooney did yet I never heard him booed and Rooney has been, even if by a handful of people, after seeking for a way out. De Gea won't be booed by United fans that's very unlikely.
Football fans find it much easier to forgive a heart on sleeve yet underperforming player than a star who wants out. Especially if we're talking about a giant club like United.
If he did sign a new contract, which he won't, then it wouldn't be a 'crazy' fee but a fee that represents how much he's actually worth. £35-40m isn't a crazy fee for one of the best keepers on the planet.
Of course he is going to receive full support from United fans next season even though he's leaving after. Lewandowski received support from Dortmund fans during his last year even though he was going to their domestic rivals, a club that Dortmund fans hate. He'll still be our player and his performances will affect United so it's unreasonable to not wish him well while he's still with us. It's a different story after he's gone.
With a long term deal we could probably get £35m, even £40m at a push for him. However he's not going to sign one and will not do this as a favour to United because he (and Mendes) knows well that he will get a better signing on fee if he moves for nothing next Summer, or for a smaller fee this Summer.
I think that would be ok in case that he wants to leave to any club in la liga,he would have several options and before or after someone would pay, however he only wants to play in Madrid, therefore at least on his part , it makes sense to make things easier. Although his contribution is very positive , in the mind of the clubs is still not understood to pay so much for a GK
If you asked me DDG went about this the wrong way. If he really wanted to leave and made his decision last year/season. He could have gone to Ed Woodward, got a contract extension with a clause that said if Madrid and only Madrid came in for him for a world record fee for a keeper, United will listen and accept the offer. Everyone would win in that scenario. We will get a good return on our investment, he would get his move and double the sign on bonus (from the extension and madrid contract), and he would have been sold already long before July came.
Ronaldo pretty much did that. When 2009 came, the transfer went through very quick with no hassle or saga. Off course DDG can still do this now...
Depends on his own feelings about the way he will be looked on by United fans if he walks away for free, if he doesn't care less then he'll do it I suppose, but personally I don't think he'll find it an easy thing to do.
Mendes is an intelligent guy who no doubt wants to please United and Madrid over this, the best thing could be to get him to sign a new 3 year deal on a higher wage now but with a release clause of about £25-£28 million, this though can only be activated from next summer onwards. This gives DDG more money now, gives him a guarantee of the Madrid move if he maintains his form, a reasonable fee for United and Madrid, and maybe importantly I also think it will give him a more dignified exit from the club........Sadly it's not very likely though.
That's the first time I think since all the circus started that I cared enough to discuss it more thoroughly. My take on it is that De Gea is doing absolute minimum in the current scenario, i.e he isn't messing around in media and keeps his head down. I do think we deserve some clarity, though. Him joining United was the best decision he could have made. He wouldn't have got that amount of protection and gk school anywhere else. He was a laughing stock in media when he joined us yet I don't remember any white handerchiefs at OT like he would have at SB. Under Fergie he got Steele who helped him accomodate outside of the pitch and improved him massively on it. Then he got Woods (that was the only good thing that came with the appointment of Moyes) who taught him how to deal with aerial duels and improved his physique. Hoek developed his footwork and reading of strikers' intentions. He became complete here all while being loved by the fans.
The least he should do even if he does want to get out of here, is signing a new contract so we can recoup the money and some. Loads of top players have done so, merely out of respect for their clubs. His alleged suggestion of the 30 m euros clause we heard was a joke that I wouldn't forsee from him. If that Spanish circus really wants him, let them pay what he's worth next year. Should they withdraw their interest if he signs for us, which could mean they have to pay top dollar, he will know how much they valued him in the first place.
The least he should do even if he does want to get out of here, is signing a new contract so we can recoup the money and some. Loads of top players have done so, merely out of respect for their clubs. His alleged suggestion of the 30 m euros clause we heard was a joke that I wouldn't forsee from him. If that Spanish circus really wants him, let them pay what he's worth next year. Should they withdraw their interest if he signs for us, which could mean they have to pay top dollar, he will know how much they valued him in the first place.
I remember years ago, when Madrid signed Pepe, they paid 30m€, during weeks there was a debate about the expensive price for a CB. They(the board) are always greedy with defensive positions. Cristiano was a different situation, everybody was obsessed about him, and after a year waiting nobody was worried about the fee.
But it would also probably mean he would get £25m less in signing on fee and/or wages from any real madrid contract.
We don't even need that cash to be honest with you, it would just help his image across the fans. For all we know Woody can be prepared to let him go on a free if it means one more top season. Bayern are lucky feckers with Robben being Madrid reject and fully aware of the joke of a club they became.
It depends what's important to him, he can have his huge wage bump with us now and earn an extra £8-£10 million this year, and then get his move for a fee that would be acceptable, he would miss on out on some money potentially yes but will earn a shed load anyway, a dignified exit might be more appealing to him, and like I say Mendes will be a pains to make sure things suit us and Madrid.
I genuinely believe unless Madrid flinch in this stand-off, we are going to feck them off and burn the money from any transfer.
I read that Woodward is flying back to Europe to buy a GK. Which would be your favorite? what do you think about Cillesen?
What are typical sign on fees for players out of contract?
so De Gea very doubtful for tomorrow game...what did the guy during the holidays?De Gea for another yearbut your welcome to Cillesen.
so De Gea very doubtful for tomorrow game...what did the guy during the holidays?
Don't know maybe he wanked himself senseless over a nude picture of Perez holding a contract maybe?
From the noises made, seems like we'll hold on to him for one more season, and then he'll go on a free. The valuation by both teams is too far apart. I expect Madrid to make one last half-hearted bid of around 20mil in August, which will get rejected.
I'm resigned to him leaving. I think we are just working some things out with Madrid at the moment. Probably a deal involving one of their players, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was someone other than Ramos. Since they seem so keen to let Benzema leave, and we have a surprise striker lined up, there's a chance it could be him.
A little on the optimistic muppet side I know, but I really don't think we will let him go this season unless Woodward can come away from it looking smug.
A little on the optimistic muppet side I know, but I really don't think we will let him go this season unless Woodward can come away from it looking smug.
He will leave really late in the window, maybe on the last day.
I dont know if Madrid can risk that. Also, if he is fit for the league matches but doesnt play the champions league games then it will be clear that we are saving him for Madrid.
if sam johnstone is going to perform in this series of preseason games, i would rather have sam to start our first league game. i don't know if sam realize it or not, but there is a big chance ahead for this young lad now.
the situation about ddg is simple.
he wants to leave, so we price him. if no one can meet his price tag then he stays and he can walk away after his contract expires.
this is pointless to keep argue or give out those non-sense reasons to justify why united should let him go by taking in 10 quids
ramos wants to go also. i wish real can accept 10m euros to let him go
the situation about ddg is simple.
he wants to leave, so we price him. if no one can meet his price tag then he stays and he can walk away after his contract expires.
this is pointless to keep argue or give out those non-sense reasons to justify why united should let him go by taking in 10 quids
ramos wants to go also. i wish real can accept 10m euros to let him go
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With Madrid signing Casilla, it seems like they are prepared to wait another year for Dave.
I don't think there is a proper replacement available this year. Cech would have been the obvious choice, Lloris in my eyes the only other quality replacement. I don't rate Romero or Cillesen, at least not for a club like United.
We should keep DDG to show that we are not bullied by anyone, get another good year out of him and line up a proper replacement for next year. We don't need the money, even if we get our 30-35 million bid. Playing in the CL again and having de Gea between the sticks could generate a lot more money for us, if we reach the knockout stages.
I'm a little bit like that naive girl who thinks that her cheating boyfriend suddenly becomes a true gentleman and proposes out of the blue to her, but I still have some hope that he could sign an extension, just to make sure we get some money after all next season. Wishful thinking, but with all that Casillas drama, the long negotiations and Real not prepared to pay or offer, what we want, should be a clear sign for Dave.
I don't think there is a proper replacement available this year. Cech would have been the obvious choice, Lloris in my eyes the only other quality replacement. I don't rate Romero or Cillesen, at least not for a club like United.
We should keep DDG to show that we are not bullied by anyone, get another good year out of him and line up a proper replacement for next year. We don't need the money, even if we get our 30-35 million bid. Playing in the CL again and having de Gea between the sticks could generate a lot more money for us, if we reach the knockout stages.
I'm a little bit like that naive girl who thinks that her cheating boyfriend suddenly becomes a true gentleman and proposes out of the blue to her, but I still have some hope that he could sign an extension, just to make sure we get some money after all next season. Wishful thinking, but with all that Casillas drama, the long negotiations and Real not prepared to pay or offer, what we want, should be a clear sign for Dave.
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