So obviously a deadline day transfer, with Cillessen coming in late to replace him. We'll end up getting £30m for him I reckon, theyre just making us sweat.
De Gea Contract Situation
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Can you lot all read the BBC article and calm down?
Literally nothings changed at all.
Literally nothings changed at all.
"United later clarified that the Spanish keeper “was not eager to play because of the situation and because he was not 100 per cent focused due to all the rumours surrounding him”."
Clarification makes it sound a lot less like a refusal to play.
Non story that's been blown out of proportion because of the way it was presented.
He didn't have to be bound for a few years if he signed an extension. Many, many players do it and then feck off pretty quickly. It means they get their wish to leave and the club gets a satisfactory deal. He has deliberately run his contract down thus ensuring United get bugger all. Had he not done that, United would have shipped his messy arse out once the transfer window opened.
LvG going against Woodward/the club? It's known LvG doesn't want to keep players who want to leave, but United is not Santa Clause where you wish to spend 60 mil on a signing, then keep him on the bench and dream of new toys after a year (Neymar), waste money on Falcao, get players on huge wages, sign Valdes, then publicy criticize him, the list is actually awfully long, and to top it now force the club to sell DDG. When will he start doing stuff which is actually good for the club and not just for his ego and philosophy?
He just can't keep his mouth shut, if indeed DDG didn't refuse to play and LvG just wants to get rid, then I wouldn't mind a bit if he himself is out of the door the same day. And even if he refused to play which I very much doubt, how will going public help the club in any way?
This is not kneejerk, I have had enough now and his output is not even close to a situation where you think "but the manager is worth all the trouble".
He just can't keep his mouth shut, if indeed DDG didn't refuse to play and LvG just wants to get rid, then I wouldn't mind a bit if he himself is out of the door the same day. And even if he refused to play which I very much doubt, how will going public help the club in any way?
This is not kneejerk, I have had enough now and his output is not even close to a situation where you think "but the manager is worth all the trouble".
Good to see that clarification. LVG should not comment any further on the issue. We need to focus on other things now.
Dramatic much?
You'd expect him to deliberately hinder his chances of making the move he obviously wants to make? I think you're holding him to unrealistic standards. He isn't a player who has any reason to be unusually loyal to the club, so why screw himself over? He'd be an idiot if he did what you suggest.
There are some truly delusional people here. LVG makes this up for what? To unsettle his best player (who supposedly 'is acting professionally and wants to play') and make the fans hate him?! How does that make any sense?! It's very clear without even Van Gaal saying anything about it. De Gea doesn't want to play and wants to force a move. Just give him his first wish and let him rot on the bench for a year.
This is shambolic 
Agree. Not long until the window closes, they should just stop talking about it until it's settled one way or another.
Nothing has changed - he's still going to Madrid like he always was....on the cheap - which was always going to happen.
Footballers are not known for they brains...but i hope DDG is not that thick he can't see that Real and his agent have not made his life very easy at the moment.
United's stance is that DDG is more valuable to the club than what Madrid are offering. Which is a positive thing really!
Madrid don't want to give the amount United are asking, which is fair enough but it should tell DDG which club values his services more.
As for his agents, he has made a right balls up of the whole sage, and left DDG in limbo for months!
United's stance is that DDG is more valuable to the club than what Madrid are offering. Which is a positive thing really!
Madrid don't want to give the amount United are asking, which is fair enough but it should tell DDG which club values his services more.
As for his agents, he has made a right balls up of the whole sage, and left DDG in limbo for months!
Absolute shambles of a club at the moment. Should have been sold at the end of June and a replacement brought in.
Run by clowns.
Run by clowns.
This is turning into the exact mess we all wanted to avoid.
LVG's man management skills really are leaving a lot to be desired recently.
LVG's man management skills really are leaving a lot to be desired recently.
I obviously have different standards to yourself. I consider it a cnutish move by DDG. He didn't have to screw himself over if he'd gone about it in the right way from the beginning.
Hope we don't do that as it would be quite stupid I think. I either want us to have a top class goalkeeper for one more season or a nice chunk of money for losing one. Any option that involves us getting neither of those things is a bad one.
Remember when SAF called out Rooney publically and said he wanted to leave and then Rooney flapped it, well this is kind of similar but De Gea actually wants to leave. Van Gaal is completely correct in strong-arming De Gea into making a fecking decision, putting pressure on De Gea puts pressure onto Madrid and if Madrid don't want him that badly then De Gea has a long old time to reconsider if he really wants to go there (whilst Van Gaal and co. go on some charm offensive).
As with anything in football the best way to fix things is to play well so if Madrid don't buy him now I think De Gea will play for us again and I'd be more inclined to believe he could stay long term. This is an international tournament year, there's no way De Gea doesn't try his hardest if he does end up staying.
As with anything in football the best way to fix things is to play well so if Madrid don't buy him now I think De Gea will play for us again and I'd be more inclined to believe he could stay long term. This is an international tournament year, there's no way De Gea doesn't try his hardest if he does end up staying.
Well said.
Will be happy to see the back of him after this season (certainly don't want the club to back down). Then no more Mendes player - can't stand the crap we have to deal with when it comes to his players.
Err, Ronaldo did exactly what he's suggesting. Agreed to say for one more year but signed a bumper new contract for several years so the club could get value when he leaves.
No reason at all De Gea couldn't have done the same. None.
He wanted to be in the final year of his contract to leave this summer, so the drama surrounding that very fact is entirely his fault.
Could we not have done that last summer? Hardly new knowledge that he might want to leave
At the end of the day if we wanted rid of someone we'd get rid, if a player wants to leave they're going to work in their best interests as we would. We certainly wouldn't work against our own interests for the benefit of a player
We tried to do that - that is common knowledge now - but he refused. He wanted to make it as easy as possible for Madrid to get him - that's what's caused all this mess.
Is it really? Why would he lie about that? Good tactic I think, force De Gea into saying what, up until now, he hasn't had the balls to say, 'I want to leave'. Instead him and his leech of an agent have been making a fecking mug out of the club and out of us as fans and you're blaming the manager? Grow a pair.
It's not. Taking 15m (which is not that nice really) and setting a bad precedent which would hurt the club much more in the long term is what's stupid imo. If you don't want to turn into a feeder club (like Arsenal) you have to put your foot down here (like Bilbao).
I'm on about selling him last summer not extending his contract. We knew the risk and we always had that option
You sure about that? Because I remember someone else in this thread pointing out that didn't actually happen, he agreed to stay but he didn't sign a new contract. A quick google search didn't bring up anything about him signing a new contract then....
De Gea should have been fair to the club. The Ronaldo example is correct. We owe him nothing.
The club is right to get what it can for him.
The club is right to get what it can for him.
Oh don't get me wrong, I have no problem with us turning down a bid that small and just keeping him for a year.
It's the idea of doing that and then not playing him that I think is stupid. That would be hindering ourselves for absolutely no benefit.
Problem is he's set on Madrid - don't think he would want to be sold to another club. However, Casillas was still there and Davey boy is not a brave soul - he didn't fancy going there and fighting to be No.1 with Casillas around - so would probably not be keen to go then anyway and sit on the bench. He wanted everything done for him - Casillas gone and we accept peanuts for him imo.
Off the top of my head
Got us back in Europe
Got rid of the deadwood like Anderson, Nani, Cleverley, Zaha.
Introduced Young players into the squad again McNair, Blackett, James, Pereira.
Organised a better Pre season tour so the team could concentrate more on football and fitness than sponsors.
Has implemented changes to Carrington so we have better training facilities.
And the best one not being David Moyes
Seems like a bit lost in translation.
Think DDG has said he's happy to play, but admitted his mind may not be totally on it. Accordingly, both parties have agreed its best he stays out the team for now.
Think DDG has said he's happy to play, but admitted his mind may not be totally on it. Accordingly, both parties have agreed its best he stays out the team for now.
He played just three games out of 12 and the games he played were against Chelsea, Liverpool and Spurs. Last U21 game he played was in early MarchHuge myth. His last contract was signed early 2007. He first asked to leave over a year later in summer 2008 and we sold him summer 2009.
Still an odd situation mind
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