They just can't fecking get it can they, their tiny fecking brains cant see it from Patrice Evra's point of view, and the fact is, they will never will get it because they'll never be in that position.
Evra accuses Suarez of racist remarks | Suarez guilty of racial abuse
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They just can't fecking get it can they, their tiny fecking brains cant see it from Patrice Evra's point of view, and the fact is, they will never will get it because they'll never be in that position.
You say "obviously" but it still puzzles me why you feel you have/deserve this?
How has Suarez become the victim in all this?????
The ban is suspended until the appeal process is done. If they do appeal after 14 days (they will) then he will be cleared to play until the appeal has been heard and sorted. Depending on how long the appeal process takes he could still be ok to play against Stoke and even maybe Bolton.
Will you be happy with kick and rush though? That's how you'll have to play with Carroll.
Poyet looks like a royal cnut again.
'Things have happened before with Evra, he is a controversial player'
Erm no, he reported Suarez for saying a word to him that Suarez has admitted saying. And this is the first time Evra has done so, he doesnt have previous you utter knob. He should be acknowledged for helping to kick racism out of football.
'Things have happened before with Evra, he is a controversial player'
Erm no, he reported Suarez for saying a word to him that Suarez has admitted saying. And this is the first time Evra has done so, he doesnt have previous you utter knob. He should be acknowledged for helping to kick racism out of football.
I think your not following along here mate!
Try saying "And then they will fight for the title and and end up winning it."
I thought he'd retired.
Even if he's avalible for the game against us, I hope he's not playing. It could get very ugly and our fans won't make it easy for him and then it's Evra vs Suarez again. But hope he's suspended for more games if appeal, he deserves to be.
I love how Poyet tries to claim that Uruguay doesn't have problems with racism against black people.
In fact, they do, especially against people of African descent.
Human Rights Situation of Persons of African Descent in Uruguay
In fact, they do, especially against people of African descent.
Human Rights Situation of Persons of African Descent in Uruguay
Suarez suspension is still ridiculous. He should have been banned for the rest of the season.
The FA were actually lenient, as this was the only part of the judgement they had control over.
Thick scouse bastards can't get this into their skulls though.
I love this idea that there's no racial antagonism in Uruguay, as if people aren't called 'black' in a racist and derogatory way.
Does Poyet not understand that words have more than 1 meaning? Negro means black, it is used to describe people with dark skin of many cultures, it can mean 'pal' just like n***** can mean 'pal' when you're identifying yourself as a member of this group to another in the group, it's banter akin to calling your friend a son of a bitch.
That doesn't mean you should swear at a cop and expect him to be pleased, nor does it mean you can go up to a stranger and banter with him or her about this 'race' they or you both belong to.
Does Poyet not understand that words have more than 1 meaning? Negro means black, it is used to describe people with dark skin of many cultures, it can mean 'pal' just like n***** can mean 'pal' when you're identifying yourself as a member of this group to another in the group, it's banter akin to calling your friend a son of a bitch.
That doesn't mean you should swear at a cop and expect him to be pleased, nor does it mean you can go up to a stranger and banter with him or her about this 'race' they or you both belong to.
What would you call a society or group that defends a racist?
Don't know an official name, so I'll just go for cnuts.
Liverpool Football Club?
Liverpool's stance is shocking. No point going back over the points made to death by others in this thread though.
As for their whole defence that negro/negrito is an inoffensive term, John Terry has just been charged and faces criminal conviction, also for using an apparently non-offensive word: "black".
Context is clearly lost on a lot of people.
As for their whole defence that negro/negrito is an inoffensive term, John Terry has just been charged and faces criminal conviction, also for using an apparently non-offensive word: "black".
Context is clearly lost on a lot of people.
Pft, you know Dalglish will put him out there if he can, otherwise it would look like admitting guilt.
Nor do I think we or Evra should be punished in a football sense by leaving Evra out of the Liverpool game. If his simply playing means things will kick off, then the game needs to be played without away supporters or something else.
Apologists. Made even worse because they aren't doing it out of any sense of loyalty to the man himself, but because he is the best player in the football team they support.
It makes you think none of them ever had a real friend who wasn't a white Englishman. What if it was your friend who had been abused, would all this rhetoric seem appropriate then? How would you feel if people starting making up things about how he falsely accused people of using racist language before and couldn't be trusted?
Uruguay's Captain has his say:
"I can't believe this. It is a huge mistake that is being made. It is obvious that England has a problem with racism that they're trying to eradicate there, and that is fine, but this sentence has no solid grounds. Luis is a victim. I don't understand how a player like Evra can do this. He's breaking all the codes of football. We all know the kind of person Luis is, the values he has. We are very hurt. When a teammate of ours is suffering, we are all suffering. Now, all there is is supporting him and being with him", he said.
Source:
Diego Lugano :: Sitio Oficial | FansClick.com
"I can't believe this. It is a huge mistake that is being made. It is obvious that England has a problem with racism that they're trying to eradicate there, and that is fine, but this sentence has no solid grounds. Luis is a victim. I don't understand how a player like Evra can do this. He's breaking all the codes of football. We all know the kind of person Luis is, the values he has. We are very hurt. When a teammate of ours is suffering, we are all suffering. Now, all there is is supporting him and being with him", he said.
Source:
Diego Lugano :: Sitio Oficial | FansClick.com
How dare Patrice be racially abused and have the balls to complain?
Breaking all the codes of football!
In some cultures it's against the code of football to simulate diving.
This! What an unbelievable nation. Of course, we've only got two internationals and a former international's word to go on, but it doesn't look good on the rest of them.
Another idiot making a judgement without hearing the evidence.
The support Suarez is getting from fellow countrymen isn't very helpful, is it?
Not so sure. A lot of these comments don't dispute the facts, just that Evra should have said feck all. Lots of pros said they heard things like this all the time.
The FA need to be open about the evidence.
It's not such a big thing in Uruguay.
Yeah, they just shrug their shoulders & say that Evra is an uppity black Frenchman, so he's obviously a liar.
Please FA, release the evidence then hopefully all these feckers will have egg on their faces.
We are laughing at the scousers about this and rightly so....but my concern is supporters on both sides getting physically hurt. Relations between our respective supporters have never been good at best. This will just drive that over the edge.
I hope clearer heads prevail over there and eventually they make a statement accepting the FA's charge and move on.
As for Suarez, I do believe his playing days in Britain and Europe are numbered.
I think he will eventually go back to South America.
But he can clean up his legacy by at least accepting the findings and making amends.
Evra will I am sure will help. He has made his point and will want to move on too.
I hope clearer heads prevail over there and eventually they make a statement accepting the FA's charge and move on.
As for Suarez, I do believe his playing days in Britain and Europe are numbered.
I think he will eventually go back to South America.
But he can clean up his legacy by at least accepting the findings and making amends.
Evra will I am sure will help. He has made his point and will want to move on too.
I was expecting a 4-5 match ban and could see 4 matches after an appeal with 4 suspended. It does set an interesting precedent for the Terry verdict if he is found guilty as he has does not even have the excuse of cultural ignorance.
Out of curiosity, do companies in the UK have training that covers discrimination and sexual harassment? It seems Liverpool FC and possibly other clubs (Chelsea comes to mind) should be instituting such training if they aren't already doing so? It might help players who are from other cultures to be aware of what constitutes sexual and racial harassment in the UK.
Out of curiosity, do companies in the UK have training that covers discrimination and sexual harassment? It seems Liverpool FC and possibly other clubs (Chelsea comes to mind) should be instituting such training if they aren't already doing so? It might help players who are from other cultures to be aware of what constitutes sexual and racial harassment in the UK.
So this prick from Uruguay decides to claim we have a racism problem? Yeah because laughing at casual racism isn't a problem to them then I suppose. At least we are stamping down on it.
"kenny buy this lad la!"
It is possible, although still unlikely just now that it could threaten his Liverpool career. However I'd be really surprised if he was to move back home rather than move to one of many top European clubs who would still want him.
how many black players are there in the Liverpool side?