Does Evra have a good case to sue Liverpool for defamation, lawtards?
Evra accuses Suarez of racist remarks | Suarez guilty of racial abuse
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I think it was less clear cut before the statement. What's even funnier about that statement is the quickness in which almost all liverpool fans embraced it as the greatest rallying cry since "we'll fight them on the beaches" and literally everyone else just fell about laughing at it.
Who the hell would prepare something as self-defeating and transparent as that?
I've just made another one for him Ken Knee - password KenKnee2.
Definitely.
Liverpool apparently. The nutters.
The funny thing is Liverpool ae victims of Liverpool, so they might as well march on themselves.
If they weren't so quickt to jump to Suarez' defense, they could have taken a bit to learn what really happened, then got Suarez to publically apologise using the culture difference excuse, say he's learned his lesson and got a slap on the wrist from the Fa. That would have diffused the whole thing and Terry takes the headlines.
They are just digging their own hole ,and it's brilliant viewing.
If they weren't so quickt to jump to Suarez' defense, they could have taken a bit to learn what really happened, then got Suarez to publically apologise using the culture difference excuse, say he's learned his lesson and got a slap on the wrist from the Fa. That would have diffused the whole thing and Terry takes the headlines.
They are just digging their own hole ,and it's brilliant viewing.
Ya I found that strange as well. Must be a suarez lover. Some people I just dont understand.
Part of the statement is running as the ticker on LFC TV, directing viewers to the website for the whole statement.
Glad to see Suarez got that sort of punishment, it's just what the lying little cheating scumbag deserves. After all he's done to get a bad name (the WC handball incident, biting etc) it feels so great to see him being brought back down to size.
The continuing circus from Liverpool is proving excellent reading too - keep it up LFC!
The continuing circus from Liverpool is proving excellent reading too - keep it up LFC!
Yep. For example a couple of posts on Bluemoon. Nothing new in what they're saying there. They've even been talking about the "previous allegations" statement and how it's not true:
Well, they'll have known about the result before the FA released their statement and I think they'll have had a pretty good idea of what the result of the investigation was going to be so it wouldn't be surprising if they had at least most of this prepared in advance which makes it all the more shocking that they've released that. From what has been said earlier in the thread, it seems that they did eventually realise it probably wasn't the best idea to say that and tried to remove the statement but the damage was already done.
With their statement they should have just ended it after the first two paragraphs and maybe add a sentence saying that they'll support Suarez (though that's a given):
After that it went downhill rapidly.
I was right when I immediately and blindly declared him guilty because he had bit a man's shoulder in the past.
Lessons:
NEVER believe a shoulder biter. They are usually racists.
And ALWAYS declare men guilty before evidence is in.
Lessons:
NEVER believe a shoulder biter. They are usually racists.
And ALWAYS declare men guilty before evidence is in.
you'd think Terry'll cop the remainder of the season - looks pretty much cut and dried with the footage clearly showing what he said. That, in turn will show Suarez' sentence to be lenient, which, in my view, it is.
I still cant believe that many think Suarez didnt know that 'negro' is an offensive word. Its not like he has never watch tv and never been outside his country. Plus, he said it in a heated argument; I'm sure he meant to be, at least, 'not friendly' to Evra.
Refering to the Chelsea incident is also weak. Suarez has many previous bad things that he did too, and I'm sure they are all irrelevant to his temperament.
This takes 'defending your own' to a new level.
Refering to the Chelsea incident is also weak. Suarez has many previous bad things that he did too, and I'm sure they are all irrelevant to his temperament.
This takes 'defending your own' to a new level.
None of them provided a link to the tweet (four of them in total), one 'found it on the web' and the rest just copied his status.
I provided all four with that link.
One of them kept on deleting my comment.
Another one went 'ah....' clearly very disappointed but at least he accepted that it was fake.
Two have ignored me and decided to keep on believing that it is real.
Don't let the truth get in the way of some indignation.
The first few lines itself are a train wreck.
Basically they admit they haven't read the commission's findings yet. Then go on to make judgements on Suarez and Evra without y'know knowing the facts of what the commission has based its judgments on.
I'm convinced LFC and Sepp Blatter employ the same PR people.
Basically they admit they haven't read the commission's findings yet. Then go on to make judgements on Suarez and Evra without y'know knowing the facts of what the commission has based its judgments on.
I'm convinced LFC and Sepp Blatter employ the same PR people.
just want to say that I admire Evra for sticking to his principles and forcing this shit of a human being into the light so all can see what he is.
We need more people like him to fight the good fight against such people and not go the Blatter bollox way....
We need more people like him to fight the good fight against such people and not go the Blatter bollox way....
Delighted with the classy and dignified way united and evra have behaved.
Very proud of you patrice
Very proud of you patrice
Even the language used early in Liverpool's statement doesn't sit right.
"We look forward to the publication of the Commission's Judgment"
The bolded part isn't used in the right context. I understand it's a common phrase in official statements and whatnot, but they're looking forward to reading why their star player is a racial abuser? Obviously not and they plan to pick holes in it, but it's still an odd turn of phrase and gives the impression of stupidity or sarcastic patronisation on their part.
"We look forward to the publication of the Commission's Judgment"
The bolded part isn't used in the right context. I understand it's a common phrase in official statements and whatnot, but they're looking forward to reading why their star player is a racial abuser? Obviously not and they plan to pick holes in it, but it's still an odd turn of phrase and gives the impression of stupidity or sarcastic patronisation on their part.
Fantastic topic on a Sunderland forum by a scouse.
http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=654817
Then around page 14 for a follow up.
Good to see Sunderland fan's seeing logic too.
http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=654817
Then around page 14 for a follow up.
Good to see Sunderland fan's seeing logic too.
Suarez was initially accused of racist comments because he has bitten a shoulder before, not because someone heard him say it. Fact.
Suarez was found guilty before any investigation is done, fact.
I wonder which video Kenny will have playing in the background at his next press conference - Roots?
That's standard legalese. The big mistake is not to shut the feck up after that.
Anyone remembers Poyet's speech, what an absolute disgrace.
And Suarez does have previous. In fact he has far far more previous than the average professional footballer. The whole thing is typical Suarez, I've already witnessed here in the Dutch league.
Yep. Guess it's similar legalese to stuff like: 'I welcome the enquiry into these allegations of kangaroo sex which I'm accused of....etc'
Not that I've ever been accused of having sex with kangaroos, you understand.
I just don't understand how the Scousers can be so blind on this issue. I like to think that I'm looking at it all somewhat impartially (and I can understand why they're so angry, having their best player banned for so long) but really, some of the posts on RAWK are ridiculous.
He called a black player 'negrito' continuously, knowing he was getting riled by it, in a country where it is offensive to use that term. How can the RAWKites not see the mistake in that?! I'd love for someone to explain it to me, I'd ask RAWK myself but they've shut registrations...
He called a black player 'negrito' continuously, knowing he was getting riled by it, in a country where it is offensive to use that term. How can the RAWKites not see the mistake in that?! I'd love for someone to explain it to me, I'd ask RAWK myself but they've shut registrations...
I think it's time for Liverpool fans to have one of their patented march-from-pub-you-were-going-to-anyway-all-the-way-to-the-stadium-you-were-going-to-anyway protests.
It's actually amazing, trying to dress this up as some sort of Fergie/FA conspiracy is just laughably ignorant on Liverpools part. They can't understand that this is bigger than any United/Liverpool rivalry.
Suarez has admitted to using the word, its completely plausible that given the magnitude of the match and the body language during the exchange that Suarez used race AGAINST Evra, that's what he's been charged for, what are they not getting their heads around?
Its fair enough that they've been defending Suarez but now that he's been found guilty, accept it, move on, but coming up with this statement, these conspiracy claims, justifications, is just disgraceful.
The statement, Dalglish's comments through all of this, the fans reaction, it just reaffirms everything I hate about Liverpool football club.
They'd gone under the radar for being so shit and city were fast becoming the team to despise but after all this, its apparent who the real enemy is.
I hope city smash them to pieces in their semis, I hope they never play in Europe again, I hope everyone sees just how despicable and how poorly they've behaved during this whole thing. Rotten club. Where did it all go wrong?
Suarez has admitted to using the word, its completely plausible that given the magnitude of the match and the body language during the exchange that Suarez used race AGAINST Evra, that's what he's been charged for, what are they not getting their heads around?
Its fair enough that they've been defending Suarez but now that he's been found guilty, accept it, move on, but coming up with this statement, these conspiracy claims, justifications, is just disgraceful.
The statement, Dalglish's comments through all of this, the fans reaction, it just reaffirms everything I hate about Liverpool football club.
They'd gone under the radar for being so shit and city were fast becoming the team to despise but after all this, its apparent who the real enemy is.
I hope city smash them to pieces in their semis, I hope they never play in Europe again, I hope everyone sees just how despicable and how poorly they've behaved during this whole thing. Rotten club. Where did it all go wrong?
Found this on the Sunderland forum. Very apt.
I'd like to thank the Guardian for placing their article on the FA's verdict right bloody next to the headline: 'Manchester United friendly was fixed,' which has only confirmed Liverpool forum members in the rectitude of their troglodytical worldview. Cheers, lads.
Fair play on the Sunderland forum
That statement is incredible. So to sum it up they've wrongly accused Evra of making accusations before, used the Sepp Blatter defence of saying he can't be racist as he's mixed race and they've called the FA biased.
Nice going Liverpool, couldn't of done much more to feck it up for yourselves.
Nice going Liverpool, couldn't of done much more to feck it up for yourselves.
Great thread that.
8 games is not enough.
Should be 8 months.
How the feck does missing a drugs test lead to a greater ban than racially abusing an opponent?
Should be 8 months.
How the feck does missing a drugs test lead to a greater ban than racially abusing an opponent?
That post you've quoted is absolutely spot on.
That lad made a few good posts.
A Liverpool fan on my facebook has the tweet as his status too. 7 spastics like it.