Evra accuses Suarez of racist remarks | Suarez guilty of racial abuse
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waited for what? for the world cup to end? for the next qualifying round, to strike with a few months belatedness and completely different players who would know nothing about Domenech since he was dismissed upon coming back from South Africa ? not sure i see your point
...except your opinion is predicatably right wing
Really? What the feck are you on about now?
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Is there any point to anything you've posted in this exchange?
You've argued with a satire, called Evra a funny guy, caled me a joke and right wing, for feck knows what.
Unfeckingreal.
What the feck's going on now? moses right wing?
Nana: Yes, you wait until the World Cup is over, then you complain that the manager wasn't up to the task etc. What were they hoping to accomplish by striking? Getting the manager sacked in the middle of the World Cup? All they did was make themselves look stupid, let down the fans and give people ammunition to fire at them rather than him when they went out.
Not sure if Evra should be singled out for the French WC debacle, from what I've read he was nowhere near the figurehead and merely served as the spokesperson for the squad in his role as captain.
Aye Feeks, it was only to show that it didn't matter what he has or hasn't done in the past in the context of this issue.
Here's my analogy.
I'm Canadian, and in Canada making right-hand turns on red lights is legal. It's not, however, legal in most U.S. states. So let's say I'm driving somewhere in the U.S. where right turns on reds are illegal; I stop at a red light, make a right-hand turn, and run over a pedestrian. When the police arrive I tell them: "It's okay! I'm Canadian, and in Canada turning right on a red light's totally normal! That pedestrian just didn't understand that I'm Canadian and that what I did's normal where I come from, so I can't suffer any consequences as a result of doing it!"
That's basically what Suarez and LFC are arguing, right?
I'm Canadian, and in Canada making right-hand turns on red lights is legal. It's not, however, legal in most U.S. states. So let's say I'm driving somewhere in the U.S. where right turns on reds are illegal; I stop at a red light, make a right-hand turn, and run over a pedestrian. When the police arrive I tell them: "It's okay! I'm Canadian, and in Canada turning right on a red light's totally normal! That pedestrian just didn't understand that I'm Canadian and that what I did's normal where I come from, so I can't suffer any consequences as a result of doing it!"
That's basically what Suarez and LFC are arguing, right?
Factual error: The Suarez t-shirt image should be rotated 90 degrees. And then the whole photograph too. He's is on a football field after all.
The hearing was closed doors, so we're not sure what the defense was. Dalglish's comments are more about Evra making up the allegations entirely. I think Suarez's position is the sort of cultural misunderstanding listed above, but I assume Liverpool are 'supporting'. But if that's the case it makes no sense to accuse Evra of making it up and citing his character from past cases, incorrectly of course.
Nana: Yes, you wait until the World Cup is over, then you complain that the manager wasn't up to the task etc. What were they hoping to accomplish by striking? Getting the manager sacked in the middle of the World Cup? All they did was make themselves look stupid, let down the fans and give people ammunition to fire at them rather than him when they went out.
Curious how in the middle of a cup competition means anything different than say players wanting a coach out during the middle of a league season. Does it really matter when players strike against a manager?
Because the two aren't comparable. It's a max 7 game Cup competition in which they were one game away from elimination..Very few people sack their manager on the last day when they're still playing for survival do they?
the French world cup fiasco isn't relevant to this discussion
IMO a club situation is slightly different as it's almost a constant cycle, a World Cup is for a few weeks every four years.
Have managers been sacked before the last match-day of group play or before a second leg in European cup competitions?
Possibly. But I'd imagine not many. And those that have come in in such circumstances have invariably been given a couple of weeks with the squad before the next tie, not a couple of days....Let alone flown out especially to a foreign training camp for the grand task of possibly managing one whole game.
True, I am simply asking if has happened in other situations, and if it really matters when a lame-duck manager will get fired. Domenech should have been sacked weeks, even months prior to the World Cup.
Nana: Yes, you wait until the World Cup is over, then you complain that the manager wasn't up to the task etc. What were they hoping to accomplish by striking? Getting the manager sacked in the middle of the World Cup? All they did was make themselves look stupid, let down the fans and give people ammunition to fire at them rather than him when they went out.
i pander to you because you have roughly 95 as many twitter followers as i have.
You should never do that. Fight your corner...Just not in this thread, cos it's a bit of a silly argument in here. It's also an argument I don't want to have, so in this instance, I'll accept your concession. But dont let me catch you doing it again.
What on earth has the WC got to do with this?
The answer is nothing
The answer is nothing
Aye, arguably years. It was a long running gag.
I'd have to agree with Mockney here...
pander - Wiktionary
1. To offer illicit sex with a third party; to pimp.
2. To tempt with, to appeal or cater to (improper motivations etc.); to assist in the gratification of.
seriously lads, take the WC stuff to a different thread. We dont want no scallies thinking we're turning on our Pat
'Liverpool is backing Suarez to the hilt. Why?'
We either adopt zero tolerance towards racism in football or we don't. It's as simple as that – Telegraph
I still think they have something up their sleeves.
'Liverpool is backing Suarez to the hilt. Why?'
We either adopt zero tolerance towards racism in football or we don't. It's as simple as that – Telegraph
Every online poll so far carried out is showing overwhelming support in favour of Suarez. So either the public generally are behind him and the media pundits at the BBC and elsewhere have got this wrong or we are all racists. Then what do the Poles know about anything ?
I wonder why that is?
I still haven't met a single person whose generally behind Suarez. They all think Liverpool have balls it right up.
Probably due to every other thread on Liverpool forums looking something like "Support the reds in this poll, dont let man utd win!!! YAWN!!"
Utter cretins.
Utter cretins.
Anyone see this?
Football Scumbags
Collection of the horrible tweets aimed at Evra, trying to expose those behind them.
One of them had the details e-mailed to the dean at his college. Too fúcking right.
Football Scumbags
Collection of the horrible tweets aimed at Evra, trying to expose those behind them.
One of them had the details e-mailed to the dean at his college. Too fúcking right.
Excellent.
Please look up "voluntary response sample" and "sampling bias".
I hope they all get done, and someone points out to LFC what's going and that maybe for the greater good they should cool thier indignation a bit. Not saying they are to blame for these fecking morons, and they all are masters of their own fate but disassociating the themsleves from any attack on Evra should be forthcoming from LFC. And that includes an apology for their own attack in their statement.
You've never heard a white person call another 'white trash' or 'cracker'? It's basically the same thing, the n-word meaning you're on the lowest level of the caste system, even if you're of the same race, when used in a negative context.
Well this is a shitstorm but vindicates the ban and proves there is a layer of racist twats out there. As one article quoted above, it has to be zero tolerance from here. The issue is out and live now and should be dealt with.