F1 2022 Season

Sooner or later max and leclerc will having a incident. Always happens in title races.

Problem for both of them right now is they need as many points as possible as a resurgencent Mercedes especially in second half of season will take wins off both max and leclerc and generally annoy them.
 
See I am not so sure yet, yes Mercedes have improved and look like they have a handle on the porposing.
I can see podiums, but wins, I cant see it yet.
Totto said yesterday that all the development on the car so far this season has been to fix porposing and nothing else. Now they can start to improve the performance of the car. If they are only 0.2-0.5 off the RB and have done nothing to improve performance so far then, I'd be very worried i were RB or ferrari.

Lets see what happens but i think they will pick up victories especially when max and leclerc eventually take each other out.
 
Totto said yesterday that all the development on the car so far this season has been to fix porposing and nothing else. Now they can start to improve the performance of the car. If they are only 0.2-0.5 off the RB and have done nothing to improve performance so far then, I'd be very worried i were RB or ferrari.

Lets see what happens but i think they will pick up victories especially when max and leclerc eventually take each other out.
I hope they do.
I agree Max and Leclerc will take each other out before long.
My concern is that while Mercedes are improving, Red Bull and Ferrari are also improving but like you say they are not a huge margin behind.
Today could see Russell or Lewis nick a podium spot, they would have to get strategy bang on to do it.
(not sure where my post went, I did edit it but must have deleted it :lol: )
 
Totto said yesterday that all the development on the car so far this season has been to fix porposing and nothing else. Now they can start to improve the performance of the car. If they are only 0.2-0.5 off the RB and have done nothing to improve performance so far then, I'd be very worried i were RB or ferrari.

Lets see what happens but i think they will pick up victories especially when max and leclerc eventually take each other out.
Few Hamilton Russell 1-2s in a row and the title race would get even more interesting

That said the merc has been very good in the slow speed corners all season so this circuit may suit them a bit anyway

Will be interesting though if we get to a circuit with high speed corners and they are still in the mix

Think they did an engine upgrade as well recently so will be good to see where that puts them now (think before they were generally running more rear wing as they couldn't run the car low enough to get all the downforce they needed)

If in the second part of the season the merc does unlock what is supposedly big simulation gains I wonder if we might see others have to change their approach for next season as well

Bit early i think to know what progress merc have made but the next 3 gp will be interesting to see how they do
 
Hamilton on this seasons struggles with the W13. BBC F1 article.

Lewis Hamilton has said he is finding it difficult to get the best out of this year's Mercedes.

Car upgrades helped Hamilton's team-mate George Russell to Mercedes' best qualifying position of the season with fourth at the Spanish Grand Prix.
Hamilton, 0.119 seconds slower than Russell in sixth, said he was "really struggling with the car this year".

"The car has potential to be third or fourth and I am not able to pull that out of the car," Hamilton said.

"I just don't feel that great in the sense of my driving and I'm working as hard as I can.

"I am still way off. I just struggle with confidence in the rear of the car. I don't know how to get around that.

"I don't know what I am going to do but I will keep trying to work hard and trying to figure it out. I just have no rear end in the car in the qualifying sessions."

But Hamilton said he was "seeing hope" for his team at the Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya after a redesigned floor eliminated the most significant problem the the car has had so far - a high-speed bouncing created by aerodynamic disruption on the straights, known as 'porpoising'.

"We have improved the car and stopped it from bouncing in certain areas," Hamilton said.

"We don't have the bouncing in the straight line. We still have some bouncing in Turns Three and Nine [the fastest corners in Spain] but the car's a lot better.

"The [development] bits that have come have worked, so that means moving forwards more bits will come. I am looking forward to the next upgrades that we get so we can add some performance."
 
Fair comments. Will be really interesting to see how the season develops.

It is only a perception, but I also wonder if the Ferrari team boss is too "soft" in comparison with the like of the narcissistic Horner who will "win at all costs ". But maybe nice guys won't always finish last! Or maybe he has a nasty streak just waiting to come out!
You don't last so long in Ferrari by being a nice guy, especially when they've not been winning for so long.
 
Totto said yesterday that all the development on the car so far this season has been to fix porposing and nothing else. Now they can start to improve the performance of the car. If they are only 0.2-0.5 off the RB and have done nothing to improve performance so far then, I'd be very worried i were RB or ferrari.

Except for the power unit upgrade they just put in. And the front wing end plates in Miami. And the new rear wings.

Also this is the biggest upgrade package they will introduce this season. Not going to get another big upgrade package until probably September.
 
Hello there, F1 Thread. :angel:

Cloudy with a chance of handbags today? See Mercedes (Russell) is doing a bit better, hopefully that will throw some more drama to the occasion.
Would hate to hear "this race is boring" today.
 
Hello there, F1 Thread. :angel:

Cloudy with a chance of handbags today? See Mercedes (Russell) is doing a bit better, hopefully that will throw some more drama to the occasion.
Would hate to hear "this race is boring" today.
It's fine if it's only one side claiming this, usually meaning they're soundly beaten.

Max engine troubles in qualifying also opening up a nice route for drama
 
If Alonso won in 2012 it would have been the most impressive WDC I've seen. Still rates as one of the more impressive seasons.
 
Fingers crossed the Red Bull holds up and Max takes Charles on the first corner. Hopefully Russell can do something here today, as well.
 
Except for the power unit upgrade they just put in. And the front wing end plates in Miami. And the new rear wings.

Also this is the biggest upgrade package they will introduce this season. Not going to get another big upgrade package until probably September.
None of the aero parts were for performance they were to deal with porposing.

Also hamilton said as quoted above they have more parts coming for next few races i.e performance parts.
 
Switched off after qualifying, so my most recent info was something along the lines of loss of power

It was DRS issue. Didn't open up. But then it did open up when he came back into the pits. So hopefully they can sort that out.
 
Fingers crossed the Red Bull holds up and Max takes Charles on the first corner. Hopefully Russell can do something here today, as well.

That would just about be the worst thing that could happen for the quality of the race.
 
None of the aero parts were for performance they were to deal with porposing.

Also hamilton said as quoted above they have more parts coming for next few races i.e performance parts.

No, the front and rear wing upgrades were for performance, not porpoising.

Just because Toto says something doesn't mean its true :lol:
 
We all know there's no way a race can be interesting unless Hamilton is leading it by 20 seconds.
 
Been a bit out of the loop with F1 in recent weeks. Have Ferrari made any upgrades to the car since Miami?
 
Red Bull messing with the DRS again. The one time the Merc DRS was slightly out Hamilton go penalised but Red Bull gets away with their DRS being adjusted after Qualification all the time.
 
Been a bit out of the loop with F1 in recent weeks. Have Ferrari made any upgrades to the car since Miami?

Yes new floor upgrades, winglets, diffuser improvements, brake ducts and a new rear wing.

Like Merc this is likely going to be their biggest upgrade package of the season.
 
Alonso on his fourth engine in 6 races is pretty grim. He hasn't even had any engine damage from crashes.
 
No, the front and rear wing upgrades were for performance, not porpoising.

Just because Toto says something doesn't mean its true :lol:
Sure if you say so. Obviously you know more than Mercedes do about porposing and outwash.
 
Sure if you say so. Obviously you know more than Mercedes do about porposing and outwash.

I just know enough to know that front wing endplates do zero to address porpoising, and the rear wing in Miami was more for performance than to help the bouncing. And the engine upgrade this weekend, again, entirely a performance upgrade and nothing to do with porpoising.

You don't seem to appreciate that Toto and Lewis are heavily media trained. When they talk to the media it's not their aim to let you know every little thing that's going on. Toto particularly wants to frame all their problems around porpoising because they have 3 engine customers and Ferrari have leap frogged their power unit. Very obvious.
 
So Red Bull Change Max's DRS system.
I presume it is permitted under the rules.
Is DRS not a vital part of the car, should it not come with some sort of penalty?

Well no, because it's the same spec.

Normally, teams are not allowed to replace any part under the Parc Ferme regulations, but as long as the part being replaced is identical, these types of repairs are allowed.

They haven't done anything wrong here.
 
I just know enough to know that front wing endplates do zero to address porpoising, and the rear wing in Miami was more for performance than to help the bouncing. And the engine upgrade this weekend, again, entirely a performance upgrade and nothing to do with porpoising.

You don't seem to appreciate that Toto and Lewis are heavily media trained. When they talk to the media it's not their aim to let you know every little thing that's going on. Toto particularly wants to frame all their problems around porpoising because they have 3 engine customers and Ferrari have leap frogged their power unit. Very obvious.
Obviously all the other F1 experts are idiots, who released videos explaining the updates in miami. The front wing updates specifically were to do with the end plates and moving the outwash away from the front tyres where it can linger and cause issues further down the car as the air is channelled into the sidepods.

The rear wing and beam wing upgrades were to help with porposing and fix airflow issue to the rear of the car.

The engine upgrade is a engine upgrade and nothing to do with porposing obviously.

But you know better than everyone. Dont really have time for fanboys, rather discuss stuff with people who can present a balanced argument based on facts. You continue your anti Mercedes agenda with other people, I'll just ignore you.
 
Heat is going to be a problem today, Horner already said that's his main concern.
It could all come down to who handles the heat and their tyre's the best.
red bull DNF I suspect! their cars can’t handle the heat
 
Heat is going to be a problem today, Horner already said that's his main concern.
It could all come down to who handles the heat and their tyre's the best.
The dreaded 'tyre and brake temp mgmt'. Hopefully that stint wint be too long and as the fuel comes down they can actually do some racing.