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No I never said you were mate. I was merely pointing out that a goal scorer would have been better for us and a defensive midfielder, simply because you can not say that Fabinho's presence would have been enough to keep a clean sheet, whereas a goal scorer with the amount of chances we created would have almost certainly got us the win.

Yes indeed. We needed another goal outlet.
 
Someone said Fabinho is a united fan, is this true? Nainngolan wont leave Roma, so forget about that. Chelsea have tried already and London is probably more appealing to him
 
Freshness may have gotten us a few more points yes. Fabinho does look the part.

Yup from what I've seen (limited amount may I add) he looks a proper player.

Though the Caf did tell me that Darmian was a marauding attacking fullback :nervous:
 
Finally the type we need. Proper holding midfielder who is good on the ball and intelligent. Hopefully it happens. Then get someone who is quality playing on the right (bernardo silva), a striker (belotti), fix up the defence (random left back, varane for cb) and we would be set.

You make that all sound very easy, I'm in!
 
Fabinho would be the second best transfer we can possibly achieve in the summer (after Griezmann), i really hope this is true

Though the Caf did tell me that Darmian was a marauding attacking fullback :nervous:
He was, until he was robbed of all confidence by Mourinho. He was Italians player of the year for a reason.
 
I'd love Fabinho to come in to our midfield, I reckon he'd be a good fit alongside Herrera and Pogba.

Carrick, Pereira and another new signing as back-ups (Fellaini sold), would be an ideal 6 options.
 
He was, until he was robbed of all confidence by Mourinho. He was Italians player of the year for a reason.

Did evil Mourinho make him shite at attacking under LvG last season too? His tentacles really do stretch far and wide.
 
Fabinho is once again getting a bad rep on the caf. He isn't just a DM, in fact he has mainly been used as a defensive box to box more than an anchor. He is a solid passer with a good vision, he has a better technique than his potential DM counterparts, he is faster, taller, more powerful.

Who would be your pick for United if we could only take 1 player from Monaco?

I know you're a Monaco fan as well, so please don't say nobody :)
 
Did evil Mourinho make him shite at attacking under LvG last season too? His tentacles really do stretch far and wide.
He started off really well for the first few games, looked the real deal. Then he had one not so good game, got critizised a little bit, and spiraled down. This season under Mourinho he is looking crestfallen all season. You have to be sensitive with those Italians. Point is, he really was a marauding full back before. So "the people in the Caf" were right.
 
From pretty much the best source available.

And what has "the best source available" actually said?

We bid €85m for Mbappe, the bid was the turned down, Monaco want €140m and the player wants Real Madrid (so nothing happening there). We made an initial enquiry months ago for Nainggolan but have not followed up and the player doesn't want to leave anyway (so nothing happening there). Fabinho and Kroos are alternatives (which doesn't even make sense as they are different types of midfielders).

Not exactly exciting stuff.

Also, Di Marzio is nothing like "the best source available" for non-Italian-based players.
 
He started off really well for the first few games, looked the real deal. Then he had one not so good game, got critizised a little bit, and spiraled down. This season under Mourinho he is looking crestfallen all season. You have to be sensitive with those Italians. Point is, he really was a marauding full back before. So "the people in the Caf" were right.

Jeez calm down dude, I said it in jest, hence the smiley I added. He's clearly been terrible at attacking for 90% of United career.
 
Who would be your pick for United if we could only take 1 player from Monaco?

I know you're a Monaco fan as well, so please don't say nobody :)

I see Seri as an alternative to Fabinho and he allegedly have a 40m€ agreement with Nice but he is more attacking. So depending on our tactic I would go after Lemar or Bernardo Silva.
 
If you actually read you'd see I said the inverse - signing good players irrespective of having perfect team balance - i.e. Nainggolan over a 'perfect holder' that everyone is lauding over. I never said we should be content in signing mediocre players. Congratulations for completely misreading the post.

This was your post:

Meh. We've played half the season without a 'holder' and have been fine. True midfield balance like that is only really necessary at the very highest level, and we're not quite competing there yet.

That was in a thread about Fabinho being top of our list, immediately after a post about Fabinho being top of our list.

Not sure what I've misread to be honest? Unless you're suggesting Fabinho isn't a holding midfielder and your post was entirely about Nainggolan?

If so, you definitely could have been clearer.
 
It's certainly a much safer investment though.
I'd tend to agree. Wasn't totally convinced about Lukaku, but seeing how much physical strength we've been lacking in the team without Pogba and Zlatan playing, I think someone like him would be ideal now.
 
And what has "the best source available" actually said?

We bid €85m for Mbappe, the bid was the turned down, Monaco want €140m and the player wants Real Madrid. We made an initial enquiry months ago for Nainggolan but have not followed up and the player doesn't want to leave anyway. Fabinho and Kroos are alternatives.

Not exactly exciting stuff.

Also, Di Marzio is nothing like "the best source available" for non-Italian-based players.
Firm offers for players isn't exciting stuff? Yeah, alright. :wenger:
 
Fabinho is my muppet transfer this summer, we need a guy like him and I think he will be perfect with Pogba and Herrera.
 
For one player, which was rejected and the player wants a different club. What a time to be alive!
I must have missed the bit where Fabinho said he wants a different club. Could you quote for me please?
 
Awesome and really exciting shopping list we seem to have.

Until reality sets in and its being reported that we have made no approach to Monaco for Mbappe. My worry is that having seen the amount of followers Di Marzio and his crew got last year from United fans regarding Pogba that they would say that United are after another top target e.g. Mbappe to get more followers/coverage/hits even if theres little to no truth in it.

Nainggolon is out of the blue, one of those players that you don't tend to assume will leave their present club so no point getting excited about much like Kroos.
 
Its so laughable that people imagine Kante is not a defensive may midfielder. I wonder where this notion that DMs are restricted, indistinguished users of a ball comes from.

People are confusing DMs for holders. We specifically need a holder more than we need an overall DM. Defensive midfielders could be box-to-box (Schneiderlin/Kante) or holders (Carvalho/Fernando/Danilo Pereira).

To me, for what we need, the positional discipline and anchoring ability of the holder is more important than the player's function; whether it's strictly tackling (Casemiro) or strictly passing (Alonso).

Fabinho would be ideal for what we need.
 
This was your post:



That was in a thread about Fabinho being top of our list, immediately after a post about Fabinho being top of our list.

Not sure what I've misread to be honest? Unless you're suggesting Fabinho isn't a holding midfielder and your post was entirely about Nainggolan?

If so, you definitely could have been clearer.
I posted twice before that.
Nainggolan would be interesting too. Him, Ander, and Pogba in a midfield three would be quite naughty.

Ander has played as the deepest midfielder numerous times this season. Could easily be managed, particularly against smaller teams.
 
People are confusing DMs for holders. We specifically need a holder more than we need an overall DM. Defensive midfielders could be box-to-box (Schneiderlin/Kante) or holders (Carvalho/Fernando/Danilo Pereira).

To me, for what we need, the positional discipline and anchoring ability of the holder is more important than the player's function; whether it's strictly tackling (Casemiro) or strictly passing (Alonso).

Fabinho would be ideal for what we need.
Fabinho is more of the controller type like Busquets or Carrick. In the EPL currently its probably only Romeu who is the young version of that type of midfielder.
 
Fabinho is more of the controller type like Busquets or Carrick. In the EPL currently its probably only Romeu who is the young version of that type of midfielder.

Yeah, which is why I think he's perfect for us. He has brilliant positional discipline, very good passing and high tackling abilities, I can't think of a more suitable and well-rounded player (within this role) for our current midfield.
 
Fabinho has been rumoured for months and months now. It's one of those signings that you just expect to be announced because of the coverage.

Hopefully it ends up like Pogba and not Vidal.

Hopefully it ends up like Mkhitaryan or Zlatan finalised before pre season begins
 
Mbappe is the player we bid for. Fabinho is apparently a midfield target along with Kroos.
Yeah I get that. But this thread is chiefly about Fabinho and if you are to beleive some of the article then the rest should be beleived too.
 
Fabinho is on another level. It would certainly be a smart target and would fit so well alongside Herrera and Pogba.
 
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