FC Bayern 2015/16

Alaba took longer with his last contract, too. But his contract ru s until 2018 anýways.

Götze I do not care. Looking at his performances until now I doubt they offer him a similar contract äs before.

But I hope Badstuber will be the next. But they probably look first on the developments.
 
Blackwidow said:
Alaba took longer with his last contract, too. But his contract ru s until 2018 anýways.

Götze I do not care. Looking at his performances until now I doubt they offer him a similar contract äs before.

But I hope Badstuber will be the next. But they probably look first on the developments.
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Think you've been drunk :D
 
Cristiano Lell said:
With Alaba, I'm not concerned about money either. I fully expect our board to be sane enough to know that Alaba is the kind of player worth going to the limit for, and I'm sure they fully grasp his value, which is enormous.
I'm more concerned about his personal ambitions and whether they are completely satisfied by staying at Bayern, considering that

a) he seems to be not 100% happy with the role he's played, at least perspectively, since one keeps reading he'd like to either play in midfield or at least have a more reliably defined position. Not sure how seriously to take all this though.

and b) literally every top club would be hellbent on signing him given the opportunity; and I'm not worried so much about England as about Real, who are after him hard, and Barca, who'd likely jump on any opportunity too. Real and Barca are undeniably serious competition for every player, I'll ignore his supposed childhood affection for Arsenal

The thing that puzzles me though, and also kind of relaxes me, is that I don't really see him starting in midfield for those clubs. They would likely sign him as a left back too, just as I'd expect him to play as left back under any new coach for us.
So ironically, the crazy, variable, rather unprecedented, and slightly chaotic hybrid left-back/midfielder/box-to-box-centre-back/attacking midfielder roles Pep liked to use him in seemed to me a pretty good way to incorporate all his qualities and get him highly involved beyond the left back position.
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Please don't.
 
Bayern's lineup:

Neuer, Thiago, Martinez, Lewandowski, Rafinha, Alonso, Boateng, Badstuber, Müller, Vidal, Coman
Bench: Ulreich, Kirchhoff, Rode, Kimmich - only 4 players. :lol:
 
First season Müller has scored more than 13 league goals (barring injury he should definitely reach 20). It was beginning to look like his cut-off point, what, with 4 of his previous 7 seasons having been stuck at 13 in the Bundesliga.

On the other hand, he's on track to pulverize his personal best for goals in all club comps in a season (26 in 13/14, he's already on 21 now).
 
Looks like Ancelotti to Munich is a done deal then.

Carlo and Bayern seem very well suited for me. Well run, sensible club with a great squad, real European tradition and a relatively straightforward domestic league, with a sensible manager who excels in quietly and effectively getting things done, has a fine European record and who's one question mark is his record in domestic leagues.

Looks like a match made in heaven and I can see him being there for several successful and peaceful years. When I look at our future and the media circus that will surround the appointment of either Pep, Mourinho or Giggs, I can't help but feel a bit jealous.
 
cesc's_mullet said:
Please don't.
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Arsenal actually makes a lot of sense if it's his boyhood club and he is desperate to play as a CM. Wenger could promise him that in a year or two with Cazorla aging and Wilshere always hurt.
 
I love how the structure at the club can afford/attract virtually any type of manager. We should try and emulate it.
 
NoLogo said:
It's not only the manager. They also have build an amazing squad in a very calm manner and got a lot of players fairly cheap and especially important at the right time of their career.
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Yes, it's the fruit of good planning, management and foresight over a long period of time. We need to modernize the structure of the club to transition away from Fergie.
 
Despicable the character assassination of Pep disguised as a fond farewell from the club via their journalistic shill, Honigstein

Bayern not showing much class, IMO. Should make for an interesting end to his tenure over the next 5-6 months
 
Since when are we connected to Honigstein? Your stupid digs against Bayern are getting more ridiculous by the day. His time at Bayern has been amazing but not flawless and the expectations were as high as they can possibly be after the treble winning season. Of course there'll be critical voices over the next months and the only way for him to shut them down is by winning the CL. I'm sure Pep can handle it. If not he never should have left his bubble at Barca, because it sure as hell won't get easier when he moves to England.

The club has done nothing but praised Guardiola and defended him against all criticism throughout his time here. We calmly reacted to his decision to leave and (hopefully it's really true) early secured a successor. There's nothing for him to do now but focus on winning as many trophies as possible in his final 6 months and he has the full support of everyone at Bayern. No one at the club is interested in hurting our chances to win the CL this season by telling a journalist to write a 'character assassination of Pep' or whatever nonsense you're suggesting with your comment.

If Pep wants Bayern to love him as much as he was loved at Barca after winning 2 CLs, well tough luck. He's not our legend and he has yet to repeat what the great managers in our very rich history achieved.
 
Clearly didn't read the article from the Bavarian journalist who spends the majority of time covering his favorite club. Citing employees of the club and interactions with the board can only come from the club themselves. Pep needing Bayern to love him is your conclusion and just as faulty as the premise of your post as I never implied it. He has handled himself with class, you'd expect the same from his employers but Bayern's reputation for arrogance precedes itself. Hopefully Carlo will add to his language repertoire or they too will make life uncomfortable for a foreign coach

Bayern look to be handling themselves like a jilted lover choosing to be critical behind Pep's back rather than thanking him for his work since he didn't want to continue the relationship.

And if I wanted to make a dig at your club, there are plenty of things to focus on which I've never done - not the least of which is Hoeness, the utter lack of German competition due to Bayern, the gay banner, or your beloved Dr. Hans-Wilhelm Müller-Wohlfahrt's quack 'medicine'

Pep is not your legend, he's a footballing one who will leave a legacy of success & revolutionizing the game while Bayern with their rich history will not be remembered for a style of any kind
 
FCBarca said:
Clearly didn't read the article from the Bavarian journalist who spends the majority of time covering his favorite club. Citing employees of the club and interactions with the board can only come from the club themselves. Pep needing Bayern to love him is your conclusion and just as faulty as the premise of your post as I never implied it. He has handled himself with class, you'd expect the same from his employers but Bayern's reputation for arrogance precedes itself. Hopefully Carlo will add to his language repertoire or they too will make life uncomfortable for a foreign coach

Bayern look to be handling themselves like a jilted lover choosing to be critical behind Pep's back rather than thanking him for his work since he didn't want to continue the relationship.

And if I wanted to make a dig at your club, there are plenty of things to focus on which I've never done - not the least of which is Hoeness, the utter lack of German competition due to Bayern, the gay banner, or your beloved Dr. Hans-Wilhelm Müller-Wohlfahrt's quack 'medicine'

Pep is not your legend, he's a footballing one who will leave a legacy of success & revolutionizing the game while Bayern with their rich history will not be remembered for a style of any kind
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You sound bitter, calm down. I did not see much wrong with the article and I'm a big Pep fan! Pep's a genius but he may be strange in certain respects. He's not perfect after all.
 
Treble said:
You sound bitter, calm down. I did not see much wrong with the article and I'm a big Pep fan! Pep's a genius but he may be strange in certain respects. He's not perfect after all.
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Not bitter at all, more like incredulous to be accused of taking shots at Bayern. Balu seems a bit bitter, tbh

I'd also recommend reading the 2nd half of the article rather than being misled by the 1st half, which comes down like a hammer from the Bavarian author
 
FCBarca said:
And if I wanted to make a dig at your club, there are plenty of things to focus on which I've never done - not the least of which is Hoeness, the utter lack of German competition due to Bayern, the gay banner, or your beloved Dr. Hans-Wilhelm Müller-Wohlfahrt's quack 'medicine'
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Please do. I've criticised the club for all that before, called Hoeneß out on his behaviour and said he deserved to go to jail for tax evasion, so I'm up for the discussion. Once you're done with that, please tell us your opinion about the tax evasion cases at Barca again, before we discuss questionable doctors and their connecting to your club.
 
FCBarca said:
Not bitter at all, more like incredulous to be accused of taking shots at Bayern. Balu seems a bit bitter, tbh

I'd also recommend reading the 2nd half of the article rather than being misled by the 1st half, which comes down like a hammer from the Bavarian author
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I read the whole article, I did not find much wrong. Bayern's bosses recognised Pep's brilliance and wanted to extend his contract despite some idiosyncratic aspects of his behaviour. Virtually any genius is a bit strange in some respect and not easy to work with.
 
Treble said:
I read the whole article, I did not find much wrong. Bayern's bosses recognised Pep's brilliance and wanted to extend his contract despite some idiosyncratic aspects of his behaviour. Virtually any genius is a bit strange in some respect and not easy to work with.
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Yeah, it's clearly not a character assassination in any way. It's just a journalist writing an article that includes some of the problems that occurred over the last 2 and a half years. Honigstein isn't even blaming Pep for all the things that went wrong and is equally critical about the club's actions in some of the things that happened. Absolutely nothing in that article is news anyway, it's just a summary of what happened over the last years and all of it has been written and discussed before. The notion that this article is something new and that Bayern is behind it to discredit Pep is totally insane.
 
Balu said:
Please do. I've criticised the club for all that before, called Hoeneß out on his behaviour and said he deserved to go to jail for tax evasion, so I'm up for the discussion. Once you're done with that, please tell us your opinion about the tax evasion cases at Barca again, before we discuss questionable doctors and their connecting to your club.
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Bravo attempting to manipulate it so as to imply I was taking digs so you could. You were wrong about Pep, let it go
 
:lol::lol::lol:
FCBarca is such a clown, by some distance the worst opposition poster on here, I can't believe that people still take him serious.
Although I have to admit that it is quite entertaining to watch this 'which is the bigger bellend club' beef between Barca and Bayern fans, it's like Putin vs Erdogan, you can't lose as a neutral spectator.
 
FCBarca said:
Bravo attempting to manipulate it so as to imply I was taking digs so you could. You were wrong about Pep, let it go
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Are you serious? :lol:. You shouldn't have brought it up then. And you did take digs against the club and the Bayern fans over the last days, that's simply what happened. You created your own little fantasy in which Bayern fans are so bitter, that Pep leaves, and then stated how surprised you are about the reaction when they should have known better. And you're doing it again now.

I've no clue what you mean with 'you were wrong about Pep'. I've always stated that we most likely will only have him at Bayern for 3 or 4 years and never expected more from him. I'd love for him to stay longer, but I was always convinced it won't happen.
 
Poor FCBarca, must be tough to watch Pep work for other teams... ridiculous posts in here.
 
Balu said:
Are you serious? :lol:. You shouldn't have brought it up then.
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I brought up the spineless attack from Honigstein and clearly linked to your club. From there, you took it and ran to suggest I've been laying dig after dig to your club. Baseless so sure, sounds bitter

Balu said:
And you did take digs against the club and the Bayern fans over the last days, that's simply what happened. You created your own little fantasy in which Bayern fans are so bitter, that Pep leaves, and then stated how surprised you are about the reaction when they should have known better.
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Sounds a great fantasy, that you've created. Otherwise, let's see the posts where these purported digs come from eh?
 
FCBarca said:
I brought up the spineless attack from Honigstein and clearly linked to your club. From there, you took it and ran to suggest I've been laying dig after dig to your club. Baseless so sure, sounds bitter
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Honigstein has nothing to do with our club. You are delusional. Nothing new there.
 
FCBarca said:
Sounds a great fantasy, that you've created. Otherwise, let's see the posts where these purported digs come from eh?
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Really? I'm sure you don't even realise in your holier-than-thou attitude how you look down on other fans and clubs, when you're telling them they're a bit stupid, sorry naive, for even hoping that Pep might extend.
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Most surprised by the reactions, even from Bayern fans. Pep was never staying long-term and never remotely gave the impression he would. If he wouldn't stay long-term at the club of his life with perhaps the greatest player ever, why would he with the Bavarian club?

Seems awfully naïve. I am, however, quite certain Guardiola leaked nothing. Only question is where he goes next as the Premiership seems logical
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But yeah I leave it at that. If you don't think a totally baseless comment like that, which doesn't reflect the actual reaction from the fan base at all nor most posts made by Bayern fans on the Caf, deserves to be called a dig, then well we probably have to agree to disagree on that as well. Just like we have to disagree on that article by Honigstein which is clearly not a spineless attack nor is there any relevant connection between him and the club besides his origin, at least not outside of your mind.
 
FCBarca said:
He's only been almost exclusively writing about his home club for the better part of a decade, nothing delusional about that
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Maybe it's time to step away from the keyboard for a while, take a walk, eat something.

It's ok mate, I'm sure Pep will be coming home someday and tell you all about how dreadfully mean everyone was to him in all these years away :(
 
FCBarca said:
He's only been almost exclusively writing about his home club for the better part of a decade, nothing delusional about that
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You write a lot about Barca and Pep all the time. Are you connected to them? Is this a marketing ploy?

Say yes, I beg you
 
Balu said:
Really? I'm sure you don't even realise in your holier-than-thou attitude how you look down on other fans and clubs, when you're telling them they're a bit stupid, sorry naive, for even hoping that Pep might extend.
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You should qualify that with in your mind

Yes, I know more about Pep than fans outside of Barcelona which is to be expected. You somehow conclude that's a slight on you, not forgetting your insistence that it was improbable for him to make the switch to City


Balu said:
But yeah I leave it at that. If you don't think a totally baseless comment like that, which doesn't reflect the actual reaction from the fan base at all nor most posts made by Bayern fans on the Caf, deserves to be called a dig, then well we probably have to agree to disagree on that.
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That's your 'smoking gun' that I was condescending to Bayern fans/club or taking a dig? Like I said, bitter is accurate

My comment there was the incredulous reaction of fans at somehow being surprised that Pep would leave a club like Bayern with so many positives to consider when he left the club of his life with perhaps the greatest player of all time in his prime. That is indeed naive. He had a 3 year contract, he honoured it - period. It was never a secret he coveted the Premiership so nothing more to it
 
:lol: It's slightly disturbing but also hilarious.
 
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