The worrying thing is that Manchester United probably decided that it wouldn't be worth the effort as it's out of our reach to change his mind from joining Manchester City.
Guardiola confirmed to City... what does this mean for us?
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No, he had the choice between us and Tottenham and chose us.
At least Jose knows the Premier League. Pep doesn't know it at all...there is no guarranttee he'll be a success at all. Even Klopp I bet is realising just how dam competitive it is.
The kid also wants to sleep with his mum and would benefit from something bad happening to you
Giggs
I can think of nothing better than us getting Pellegrini and winning the league...just how sweet would that be?
But dear God, what's with all the Giggs stuff - do people seriously think he can work miracles as a debut manager? Surely if there was anything about him, he'd be having some input right now. And if he is...well, that speaks volumes.
It's sheer madness.
But dear God, what's with all the Giggs stuff - do people seriously think he can work miracles as a debut manager? Surely if there was anything about him, he'd be having some input right now. And if he is...well, that speaks volumes.
It's sheer madness.
Both a challenge?
Every job is a challenge but the poster said that City wasn't a "proper" challenge.
Lucky Spurs.
Good insight Gaz. Agree.
That isn't a great pitch for a successful business model.
Sadly I think this is key... despite any denials from the club, there will always be the sense if we get Mourinho it's because we couldn't get back - otherwise we would have got him in before this announcement.
Speaking of which...
This story is probably as genuine as David Moyes being 'the chosen one'.
I think taking over champions, or champion elects, that require a few minor tweaks isn't much of a challenge. However, it will be a challenge to win the CL.
He could have gone to a whole number of sleeping or fallen giants or Liverpool size clubs (
) to turn them into champions and that would be a real challenge, especially if the do not have limitless funds. That all said, City do not have the dominance that Bayern have so he will find it more challenging than taking over the treble winners.Guardiola has managed Barcelona in Spain. One of the top 2 in a 2 team league, granted that Athletico Madrid are making it a 3 team league recently. Then he goes to Bayern München a team I believe anyone with half a brain could do a decent job at. He has looked very impressive I admit, but now he has a totally different test in front of him. The premier league is a totally different animal. Time will tell what he does. But I bet he will not be there any longer than 4 seasons. United now have a big decision to make, do we stick with LVG another season before he retires? then give the job to Giggs, Giggs only qualification for the job is that he is a great United player(legend) of the past and is interested. His managerial qualifications are not really much. I would be happier with Mark Hughes than I would be with Giggs. But in my opinion we should really get Mourinho in as he knows the Premier League and has won it more than once. He would be our best bet for dealing with the Guardiola seasons. But I fear that the powers who control United are not really very worried about winning trophies as long as the money is still coming in. I also think United need a Director of Football, Woodward is great as a marketing guy and for getting in sponsors, but his transfer dealings have not been great, and have given the club some embarrasing moments.
Sky just can't help talk about us when talk about Pep to City.. trying to rub it in, getting annoying now.
It's tough but we'll cope somehow
Seriously though, we'll see more of the kids under Pep than we ever did under Pelle and Mancini and that is another box Pep ticks.
It's just hilarious.
The worst thing about it is that James Cooper keeps saying we knew Pep was going to City etc if that is the case it's even more annoying that we insist in keeping LVG taking us nowhere instead of getting Jose (for example) in now, give him 6 months to asses the situation and go from there in the summer.
Unless we had already have the new manager sealed ie Maureen or Giggs
6 months is far too long. He'd throw the team under the bus, invent a referee conspiracy, have a public clash with Fred the Red, eye gauge at least one of the Sikh lads and be sacked before then.
I think taking over champions, or champion elects, that require a few minor tweaks isn't much of a challenge. However, it will be a challenge to win the CL.
He could have gone to a whole number of sleeping or fallen giants or Liverpool size clubs (
And who is the last manager who had the choice between the best clubs and a fallen giant and chose the fallen giant? When managers are free, they choose the best offer, the richest club, the best roster, the best city. It would have been nice to see what SAF can do with Aston Villa though.
It shouldnt mean a thing to us. As a big club our plans should be how to return our club to the top of domestic and European football by what we plan and do. Not by reacting to rivals like Real Madrid keep doing to try catch up with Barca
United can spend what City can but choose not to.
Massive revenues plus possibility of sponsor funded deals.
It's currently all about one team executing a long term strategy well and another one flapping around trying to put out fires.
You're being flippant I know but I seriously think that you will win the FA Cup this year.
LVG finishes 6th, but wins the FA Cup and thus stays on for another year. Can see it happening.
It's not fully executed yet. Pep could spontaneously combust on arrival and who will be putting out the fires then eh? Eh?
We should have been in for Ancelotti but we fecked around and Bayern have already lost their manager and replaced him.
I totally agree. However, in almost all other areas of life people who want to prove they are the best take on challenges rational people don't.
I would like to see a Jose level manager take over someone like Stoke or Palace and see what they could do with them. We have examples of Ranieri taking on Leicester and doing a good job, debatable whether it will be sustainable, but he has done well.
But it's been said for weeks that City's squad are mostly in decline and/or injury prone and that he won't have the appetite to take them on.
You're disregarding the infighting and toxicity that existed at Barca prior to his takeover and without him Xavi, Iniesta and others would not have been in a situation to realise their potential as quickly and as freely as they did.
This.
I get that we're constanty compared to City but the whole "balance of power in Manchester" is bs. The two clubs can have very good teams at the same time. Players are recruited from all over the world so it's not a straight choice between us and City. If we get our shit sorted out, we'll improve; if we don't, we won't, no matter what happens at City.
You mean an underachieving medium to large club with huge potential in the right hands? The commercial world is full of similar examples of such businesses who grew market share to previously unconsidered levels due to investment, shrewd management and complacency among competitors.
WE need to wake the fcuk up really, at the moment we are like a duck fart in a fog. LVG is not long term, and Giggs is not a guy with experience at managing.
I'll give you 3 names right now that have passed/are passing through the City Academy.
Kelechi Iheanacho
Brahim Diaz
Jadon Sancho
If any of those 3 fail to be big stars I'd be very surprised and Pep and his likely successor (Vieira) will certainly be looking to include them if they continue to go the right way.
Gary Neville has more claim than him if he wants to do it.
He's far more forward thinking and proactive than Giggs.
I'm definitely not in the doom and gloom camp, not yet at least. We can sort out our mess by bringing in Jose, either now or the moment our season is over. The man know how the league works and how to get the best out of the players he has. And he knows how to go about winning trophies.
But if we let LVG complete his three-year contract or hand over the reins to Giggs, we're looking at a long wait for our next league trophy.
But if we let LVG complete his three-year contract or hand over the reins to Giggs, we're looking at a long wait for our next league trophy.
I hope fans are aware that the media does not love United. All the talk of "hire Mourinho", they don't care about us. All they want is the soap opera between Mourinho, Pep and Klopp. They're not interested in football. This is something Man United will not partake in. Even if United doesn't want LVG anymore, they will carefully research and find a replacement, United will never dance to the tune of the media.
All the reports today about Pep going to City has never been about Pep going to City. It's all what happens now to United. They are trying to move the hearts of the fans to lure the hands of the board to hire Mourinho all for their own sakes, not for the sake of Man United. It's really vital for the fans to clam down and have a clear head.
All the reports today about Pep going to City has never been about Pep going to City. It's all what happens now to United. They are trying to move the hearts of the fans to lure the hands of the board to hire Mourinho all for their own sakes, not for the sake of Man United. It's really vital for the fans to clam down and have a clear head.