I disagree. Jesse has no where near the quality of Frank Lampard. For one, Lampard's shooting and runs in the box were absolutely lethal.
Lingard, Starter, Sub, or cash in?..
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I disagree. Jesse has no where near the quality of Frank Lampard. For one, Lampard's shooting and runs in the box were absolutely lethal.
Not sure why you would want to sell him...let him fight for his place and earn it on merit.
Some of the comments about how crap he is are ridiculous.
Some of the comments about how crap he is are ridiculous.
Excuse me but are you comparing Lingard to De Bruyne, Ozil, etc?
If he stays he should be below Martial, Mkhitaryan, Rashford, Memphis, Januzaj and Pereira in the pecking order on the wings. The former three because of quality, the latter three because of hindering their development. Not much reason to keep him as a squad player in my opinion, as I don't see him getting a good first touch, shot, cross, pass or dribbling ability - an older, less talented Sterling.
For what?
Anything but starter
I doubt he's ever going to be a starter week in week out, but as long as he's content being a squad player and a starter now and then, I hope we keep him around. He's versatile, hard-working and homegrown/a youth product. He could be this generation's Park type player. But he's still relatively young, and of course he could surprise use all and suddenly improve a lot move. At least for now, I think we should happily keep him around, and I'm sure he'll at least start a lot of games in the Europa League and the League Cup.
Well he does manage to pop up as a free man in or around the box, and has done. Getting into space is one thing though, being able to do something good if the ball happens to drop to you is another thing, Fellaini has the same problem but it's still an attribute and not all players do it.
So Barcelona, Real, and Bayern have no squad players?
He isn't amazing but we don't have anything better at the moment and he could help close out a game or increase the tempo of a game.
He is a squad player at best but i do think he can play a role in the team
I think Jesse should be a sub and I'm sure that is how Jose will use him.
Last year was a big year for him, and you have to say he stepped up in a team playing dreadful football. He didn't set the world alight, but he seemed professional and very competent. And he did win us the FA cup.
He certainly deserves a chance to show Mourinho what he's got. Sure he's 23, but plenty of players develop at different rates. He might not have speed and skill dripping from him, but I'd like to see what he does have in a fluid setup.
He certainly deserves a chance to show Mourinho what he's got. Sure he's 23, but plenty of players develop at different rates. He might not have speed and skill dripping from him, but I'd like to see what he does have in a fluid setup.
Why would anybody want him sold? young, youth product, on relatively low wages, and pretty decent.
Happy to keep him for now. He wants to play, puts effort in, and comes up with some good stuff every now and then. Think he would do better in a team that can actually attack too.
That said, he should be second string and play in the lesser games.
That said, he should be second string and play in the lesser games.
At the very least he has earned his chance this season after his last's performance, we have seen enough players blow up in their mid to late twenties there is no reason he can't be one of them.
Yes they do have squad players but they are very good players. Do you remember our squad players in our strong years? Henning Berg, Phil Neville, Nicky Butt, Jesper Blomqvist, Ole, Teddy, Park, Fletcher, Chicha, and so on. Look at Real's squad players- Isco, James,etc. It is the same with the other strong teams.
Basically it depends what you are striving for. If you want us to be mediocre and to fight for 5th place, then yes, he can be a squad player but I cannot see him nowhere near a squad fighting for the title and an European trophy. I may be wrong but that is my opinion.
We've also won titles with O'shea, Brown, Gibson etc. You basically named some of our better squad players over the years, If he is happy with just playing a handful of games i don't have a problem with it at all.
Sheasy and Brown were terrific servants to the club and good players. In his early years O'Shea was terrific as a left back and Brown was our right back in 2007-08 season when we won the double and unluckily missed on a treble. Gibson played very little for us and was sold. If you mean playing for the League cup against MK Dons I do not mind using him there...
Every game I watch him, he looked ok-ish borderline ordinary but busybody. THEN, in those games, he always came up with moment(s) of brilliance, either goals, assists, excellent cross, etc. He's no Solskjaer by any means, but he could be our Park.
Seems like you were lucky enough to miss 80% of his games last season. Besides, even Bebe can fluke a cross or a shot in if he tries 20 times..
I don't see any wrong in having a decent squad player to offer some type of depth to the squad. Every good squads needs that odd guy.
So you and many on here feel that he is bang average and not worth much money.
I actually agree with this.
So, why should he be kept on even as a squad player, for a team (MUFC), which is attempting to win the league and then go on to win the CL, in the next few years?
We are spending £100M on Pogba (to get back to being an elite club), yet some of you want us to have squad players who are below average and not worth £10M.
None of this makes any sense to me.
Within 2 years we need to have a powerful First XI + a fantastic bench. When we play the likes of Barca, Madrid or Juve, we shouldn't be the underdogs. We must expect to go toe-to-toe with these teams and come out with a win.
Bang average players need to be told that MUFC is not the place for them. Lingard - would do well to go to one of the newly promoted teams - that's his level.
One of the better players today. I like him - and not just we won the FA Cup because of him. He shows good movement and he's a positive player. I don't want him to start every game but until we have someone better to fill his position, he'll be handy to have around.
Herrera and Mata are our Isco and James. Lingard would be more comparable with someone like Vasquez or Jese.
Let's not act like all of Europe's elite are purely jam packed with top/world class players, bar maybe Bayern, it's just not realistic or practical and was never us, even when we won the CL in 2008. Lingard would be absolutely fine as a squad player.
Oh I know. Read any of my posts in any Lingard thread and you'll see that I really don't rate him. I wouldn't be fussed either way if he leaves or is given another season as a bit part player. Either way, I'm convinced that he won't be here by the start of next season.
We do need squad options though and we will only sign a limited number of players this summer. So I mean, if he wants to stay and play the odd game here and there then so be it.
Assuming the mirror is right (not holding my breath) then that FA Cup goal probably pays his wages for the entire contract with significant change to spare 
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.Hindering their development? What absolute nonsense. Lingard himself is 23 going on 24 in December and only just got his first full season as a first team player under his belt. He came in last season and took his chance when Memphis was folding under the weight and pressure of playing for United. Players will be picked on merit
Lingard gets too much abuse on here.
No team can have 24 WC players. You need some players who'd be happy to play second fiddle and even though they're not WC, they do have enough quality to merit a spot in the team.
Last year was Lingard's first season in the PL and although he didn't set the world on fire, he wasn't that bad. Yes he should have scored some of the easy chances he squandered but let's not forget it's his first season.
He's a good squad player to have.
No team can have 24 WC players. You need some players who'd be happy to play second fiddle and even though they're not WC, they do have enough quality to merit a spot in the team.
Last year was Lingard's first season in the PL and although he didn't set the world on fire, he wasn't that bad. Yes he should have scored some of the easy chances he squandered but let's not forget it's his first season.
He's a good squad player to have.
That sounds like a logical contract for a good squad player.
Lingard is awesome.
The lad is more talented than James Milner and just as hardworking and intelligent. he will be an excellent squad player for us.
They both were quite average towards the end of their career before going to sunderland aswell, same with g.neville
Mourinho generally doesn't use a big squad anyway so he might barely play if we are doing well
He deserves his place in the squad.....
Could be our very Solomon Kalou.
The problem is that both Lingard or Mkhitaryan when deployed in the right-wing slide to the center, not really opening our attack. We'll definitely need a running right-back.
Slavkov really has it in for Lingard and I don't really care. The Cafe pretty much all agree he should be in he squad. He's proved his merit last season. For me he's ahead of Januzaj & Pereira but he may have to prove that again this season with the new manager.
He's decent at everything without really excelling at anything but work-rate. He'll be okay as a squad player but I certainly wouldn't want us to be relying on him for long periods or anything.
The gulf in class between Mkhitaryan and him is pretty steep after all.
The gulf in class between Mkhitaryan and him is pretty steep after all.
I thought he was fantastic yesterday. He has great movement. Gave Mkhitaryan really good options with that movement and would have been clean through but for a very poor pass from Memphis. He's very versatile, is a local lad and pops up with crucial goals.
He may not be a superstar but he's a perfect squad player and at this stage is a far better squad option than someone like Ashley Young.
He may not be a superstar but he's a perfect squad player and at this stage is a far better squad option than someone like Ashley Young.