I'm glad so many here see them for what they are unlike the shit that gets spouted on RAWK. They're a good team playing very good football and most can see that, its refreshing not nauseating. You'd rather we call them lucky, their manager some shit nickname, etc?
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I'd say that they're a good team playing very good football and most can see that, but its nauseating not refreshing .
You got me wrong. Them doing all that sucks but what I'm saying is that people on here seeing that for what it is rather than resorting to bollocks is refreshing.
people are just saying what they see rather than resorting to "XYZ is sh*t" posts. Makes for a better forum imho.
If the forum was all about backslapping each other and seeing who is the biggest red, then you'd be reading Red Issue
Likely. But I can dream, can I not?
I have to say, hats off to Brendan Rodgers. He's done a good job with Liverpool. They were a mess when he took over. They've had some big results this year as well, especially the Everton (4-0), Tottenham (5-0) and the Arsenal (5-1) results. If they claim a CL spot this year, they'll get a lot of money to build with, and possibly more players becoming interested. It will be a hard battle for Champions League spots next year. With Spurs, Arsenal, Man City, Chelsea and Liverpool fighting for the spots with Manchester United.
I think they are there for the taking if teams can withstand their initial blitzkrieg. They have too many mistakes in defence and the midfield remains open with Gerard not having the legs to cover ground.
They still are likely to win a lot of those games, as you say. I am hoping the pressure prevents them for running away with the top 4 spot. It would be interesting to see how they cope if either or both of Spurs and us start getting closer.
Er, we are running away with it so far. Gerrard has been brilliant too. Since Rodgers moved Coutinho deeper, Gerrard has stepped it up and has been outstanding.
Moat popular thread on a United forum ffs
Yep, we will continue to get scores like 4-3 against the lower half teams because we play with less caution when facing up to them. Against the big teams we haven't been anywhere near as open though, so i'm not sure how much of a problem it is.
People keep saying our defence will let us down, but no team in the lower half has a strike partnership like Sturridge and Suarez, even if it does let us down a couple times, i don't feel other teams have it in them to stop us from scoring more.
I have noticed (may be because I am looking for it) more vulnerability in the last 2 or 3 games. Gerrard has been good but both in the Swansea and the Fulham game before that, I felt he left too much space for the opposition to function. It was almost too easy for Shelvey to find space and build up attacks last night. I have not claimed that 'Pool will drop off dramatically but I definitely feel that there are going to be a few hiccups along the way and a top 4 is not as guaranteed as every sees. (Of course there is an assumption that United or Spurs will do well in this period and not s**t the bed themselves).
No, I won't allow it.
such a hard arse..
All positivity must be crushed at its source this season.
in the FOOTBALL forum, and even then its not the most popular thread on the 1st page, with the Gareth Bale thread attracting over 1 million views, and the Ibrahimovic thread more as well.
If it makes you feel any better the Wayne Rooney thread in the United forum has had over 3 million views and even the Moyes thread over 1.6 million despite being only here half a season. Hell, even the Felliani thread has had double the views.
Bit of perspective eh lad?
What that chart does is remind you of Liverpool's truly insane run-in form in 2009. Thank god we had that lead.
Aye, and they were right. What won us the title was conceeding 2 goals in eleven games from the end of December to the start of April.
Aye, and they were right. What won us the title was conceeding 2 goals in eleven games from the end of December to the start of April.
I read earlier that Liverpool have earned only 3 points more than us in the last 10 games. Can't be right, surely?
We've got six more points than you from the last six.
But yes, in the four games preceeding that, you did pick up three more points than we did, given that we lost twice on the bounce to chelsea and city. To think that at the new year, you were only five points away from us. How quaint.
For some reason I thought Liverpool had more points at this stage in 08/09, but we wouldn't have had the 4-1 defeat against them at this stage and they'd probably have been feeling the effects of their poorer form post Benitez rant. Shows how well they're doing this season though.
Oh dear. You're better than us for 6 months out of the last 20 odd years and you are already fantastically arrogant and condescending. Won't you feel a fool if you have a collapse and miss out on 4th.
I don't think you will by the way, but stranger things have happened.
We also had a healthy lead in the title race from a relatively early stage and had a significantly better set of defenders than Liverpool do now. I think I'd only really consider them title contenders if they were still in touch once they've played the big 2, especially as they have some potential banana skins away from home against those weaker sides (and obviously us).
Let's see how this pans out in the month of March. Liverpool have Southampton away, United away, Cardiff away and play Tottenham. They may end up with 2 points from this fixture list. We have 5 games and provided we draw against Citeh, we may pick up 13 points. Liverpool may end up with a game in hand, but that's their lead wiped out.
It's nigh on impossible, but nothing is for certain this season. Don't get too cocky scousers.
It's nigh on impossible, but nothing is for certain this season. Don't get too cocky scousers.
We may end up with 12 points from this fixture list. You may pick up 0. We also may end up with a game in hand. You've taken the very best scenario for you and the worst for us. United and Cardiff should be straight forward (you never know with United though, it is their cup final). Cardiff have regressed under Ole.
We may end up with 12 points from this fixture list. You may pick up 0. We also may end up with a game in hand. You've taken the very best scenario for you and the worst for us. United and Cardiff should be straight forward (you never know with United though, it is their cup final). Cardiff have regressed under Ole.
Well, that's the exact point of these predictions. We don't know how it'll turn out. We always tend to 'magnanimously' grant ourselves a draw against Citeh and then go on and score full points against Southampton away not acknowledging that we have our red tinted glasses firmly on our noses. Season's form suggests that we'll pick less points and you'll pick more points, and that's why United fans are already contemplating Europa league, but this talk of Liverpool for the title does suggest that you look at the other side as well. You may well slip out of the '4th place guaranteed' and make it a 4 horse race for the 4th place. Nothing is guaranteed.
I didn't think you were making a prediction there. If you were, based on what? What have United shown that would make you think you can go on a run and what have Liverpool shown that make you think that we're going to collapse?
You are right, I wasn't making a prediction. I was just commenting on the new found cockiness of Liverpool supporters and their 'worst case scenarios' vs 'best case scenarios' in some other threads.
This is something you would read on RAWK last year. "If only someone attacked United, they would crumble".
There is a reason why teams are not attacking them - it's because getting the ball from Liverpool is not that easy now.
It's not getting the ball from them that's an issue, it's dealing with their pace and skill when they attack. Teams just haven't been able to cope.
Southampton is the only team who have taken the game to us and left us with no response.
Generally, trying to push up against us is asking to to be murdered on the counter.
Spurs have been close for ages. We've pulled away. You were close at the new year. We pulled away.
Yep. We're quite happy to concede possession these days.
I don't see us caving to pressure. One of the hallmarks of the team under Rodgers is how stable our form curve has been. We've averaging 2 points a game all season in pretty much any way you look at it since round 5.
Admittedly have only seen highlights recently but what is the scouse view on Joe Allen now ? He seemed to struggle to find his feet at the start of the season but has come into his own this season. Seemed to be popping up everywhere against Swansea.
He has been out injured a lot, it's a shame for him there isn't really a place in the team for him at the minute especially with the way Henderson has been playing lately. He was excellent when he game on yesterday it was probably what helped us to win the game, he held the ball well and his delivery was great. However, I can't seem him being more than a squad player at the minute.
I think it's a given that Liverpool will drop points. They have Chelsea, Citeh, Us, Spurs and some tough away games. Can anyone else capitalise? For all Liverpool's form, they conceded 3 against Swansea and they have dropped many points. I'm hoping for an Ides of March month for them.
He had a brilliant start and since his injury he has been very good. Was excellent against Swansea.
Allen is Liverpool's Cleverley.