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FFS il spew if we sell him cannot rely only on young and valencia all season
Luis Nani | 2012/13 Performances
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FFS il spew if we sell him cannot rely only on young and valencia all season
All this fear about Nani possibly leaving, I just dont understand the panic of "oh what should we do if he goes..."
Big names come and go and we have seen bigger names leave before, nobody is bigger than the club. If he leaves we will carry on as we usually do.
Big names come and go and we have seen bigger names leave before, nobody is bigger than the club. If he leaves we will carry on as we usually do.
Noone at this club is indespensible, I agree. Everyone can be replaced.
However, Nani is the only player we have who is a genuinely gifted dribbler. So , personally, I really wouldn't want him to leave because he gives us something we otherwise don't have. So if he leaves we will have to go out and get another player who is as skillful.
If he is going its nothing to do with ability, it will be a combination of attitude and work ethic. He has the abilty to be world class in my opinion but he doesnt work hard enough at it.
Does that mean we should never be concerned about a quality player leaving the club? Yes, the club will go on, every club does, doesnt mean its an ideal scenario.
Im not saying we should not be concerned, by all means thats fine but some people are acting as if it will be the end of the club and that selling him would be a travesty.
The biggest issue with selling him is not going out and getting an adequate replacement. Like I said, who else in our team has the skill on the ball and trickery that he does? So we'd need to replace him pretty much like for like/ better version of former like otherwise we'd be worse off.
selling him will be a travesty because he is a good and key player for us. Not for any other reason
I agree that he has great skill and trickery however his work ethic and attitude has a considerable question mark over it. Dont get me wrong I would like him to stay of course but should he go its not going to be the end of the world as some people seem to believe. When he is up for it he can really be on fire, then he seems to start believing his own hype and can a tendency to disappear for a few games.
How on earth do you know how hard the fella works? Imo, Nani and Evra are the only two players we have who look really, really fit and thus could pose in any men's magazine for a "how to get ripped in three hours" nonsense.
If anything, I think he has such a burning desire to become a world beater, and he is fully aware that he can, that it may in fact shackle him to some extent.
I for one really don't hope that he leaves; he is our most exciting player to watch (and no, I'm not talking about his pecks). Football, to me, is first and foremost about entertainment, and few players can entertain more than Nani (although he has the gift to seemingly do otherwise to at times).
Selling him is going to weaken our squad as we don't have much depth on the wings - with him out the door we only have to proper wingers left. Giggs isn't 36 anymore, and Welbeck is only average as a winger.
Don't think there is too much in it to be honest, but as I'm an optimist of all things considering United, I have proven to be mistaken once or twice before - better that than being an utter pessimist with the only satisfaction of saying "I told you so, I've been telling you time and time again."
Nani is great, Anderson will come great and we have a bloody great season in store for us!
I dont think the club will sell him, that's the most important part.
Worse comes to worst, he'll be a good player to be in the squad if others are injured. At least better than Bebe at the moment.
Worse comes to worst, he'll be a good player to be in the squad if others are injured. At least better than Bebe at the moment.
Is this Nani you are talking about?
Dear god...It's more so a 'why the feck would we sell him in the first place?'. I see no point to it, we only have 3 wingers and he's an excellent player. It'd be a daft decision from Fergie, I'd be disgusted to see him leave.
A few weeks ago all papers where writing about a new contract - now that we will sell him. Things change a bit fast, dont they
Its because the contract was not signed that things have changed.
The way things are these days if you allow a contract to go less than 2 years remaining it is a dangeruous game.
Would love to know if it is the player or the club making things tricky.
If we sell him and he's not been a cock to SAF / the club, then it's sending the wrong message.
Kagawa esp. has been a wonderful signing in terms of the financials and quality, RvP as a WC player, but buying a 29 year old and selling your 25 year old whose not too far behind him in terms of quality, and is on less than half the wages (90k vs ~200k) and would fetch comparable fee's is stupid (We won't get more than 35 million for Nani and he's cheaper even over just 3 years due to the massive gulf in wages!) is certainly not good for the club.
I'd much rather have Nani than RvP if one of them had to go and both were willing to play for the club and give there all.
Nobody's bigger than the club, but I'd fear for the club if we started selling 4-5 big names... say if Rooney, RvP, Kagawa, Valencia and De Gea were sold next season, you could use that same logic; they still aren't bigger than the club.
How do you think AC milan feel? Because the club's had it's heart ripped out; yes AC Milan will move on, but they've lost their 2 best players, one of which was a leading player in his position, and have also lost 5-6 players who've been there for ages. Uncertain times.
Now, I don't want everyone to get the wrong impression; the main loss of Nani would be of a quality player on the cusp of his prime years. But, of lesser importance considering the circumstances, there is a very small chance that it could have bigger circumstances down the road. I don't see who buys RvP for that kind of money, and then hard-balls a ridiculously talented winger over 20-30k.
Losing Nani is a step in the wrong direction, and once you start going in that direction, you're far more prone to going full tilt and ending up where Liverpool is. We've got a gem in Nani, and he's at a stage where he's far better than he was when we persisted with him; why sell him now? It's like Arsenal selling RvP; he's just begun to play every game and perform regularly, and then he's lost, no Nani's not as consistent, but he's on the cusp of that. As Wenger said, he's uncovered the talent, and made them into who they are, and then when they become big players, they go play and be big players for someone else. Nasri, Clichy, RvP and Fabregas aren't bigger than Arsenal, but look where they are. We've got plenty more quality in the squad, but if we came 3rd this year, and SAF decided to leave to boot, lots of fans will fear for the club, and it's totally expected. Heck, lots were fearing for the club after City beat us, and if we go 3rd which is possible (You can pick up odds of 3/4 on us coming in the top 2 which isn't as short as I expected; that was before our Fulham game) we'll be behind 2 clubs, and with a manager trying to fill the boots of possibly the greatest of all time in managerial greats.
The players all said they got a lift when RvP came. They'll experience a bigger loss at seeing Nani, a player who no doubt they are good friends with, leaving and becoming a great player for another club, possibly a rival. Let me tell you, Rafael and Evra do not want to be playing against Nani.
If, as the papers were reporting, we're refusing to budge over Nani's 120-130 k demands, I'll be fecking livid. Even if we do give in, it's shocking if it indeed has been allowed to go on for so long, over such a decent wage demand from Nani's side. I would've expected him to be gunning for 150k or something, and have seen that as the going rate. If Young's meant to be on 100-110 k a week; especially on the back of an 18 million quid fee, then Nani's got every right to be going for far more than 120-130k.
Surprised that PSG don't show any interest in Nani. Nani and Moura could give them plenty of creativity.
Ibra, Lavezzi, Pastore, Menez and Lucas. It's not a priority to sign Nani.
Although, they are paying a total of over 150 million euros every year to Ibra, Moura and Silva. Because of the 75% tax rate (starting next year).
Ibra, for example, will earn 15 million euros after the 75% of tax. He's only earning 25% of his pre tax earnings; 15 x 4 = 60 million. Pre Tax. Each year. To one player.
So they could definitely afford him; I don't know if transfer fee's have tax?
But if they're paying 150 million on 3 players, each year, I don't think they care about the transfer fee, tbh.
we shouldn't be selling Nani. I'd rather sell Rooney.
Nani with the new players we have, will be a terror for any team will play. They won't be able to double-mark him if he is part of a 3 including any 3 RvP/Rooney/Kagawa/Valencia
Nani with the new players we have, will be a terror for any team will play. They won't be able to double-mark him if he is part of a 3 including any 3 RvP/Rooney/Kagawa/Valencia
Nani on his day is a match winner. Trouble is he don't have enough of them. I would let him go if we got a quality central mid in his place
I don't see many top clubs bidding at this late stage.
We'll be short on wide options if we do sell him after letting Park go. It would make sense of why we were chasing Hazard and Lucas though.
Yeah, thankfully none seem interested (top clubs, that is).
Sincerely doubt Zenit will actually go for him; or that Nani will leave there. He seems an ambitious lad.
The final date he can leave is on the 31st of August, yes? Or is there a different date for signing players from foreign leagues, and selling players to foreign leagues?
there's nothing in this
People should remember he started the season as first choice last week
we'll eventually come to an agreement on the contract and he'll sign
if we were genuinely looking to sell we wouldnt wait until he has 1 year left as it weakens our hand
People should remember he started the season as first choice last week
we'll eventually come to an agreement on the contract and he'll sign
if we were genuinely looking to sell we wouldnt wait until he has 1 year left as it weakens our hand
Don't forward that to Wenger, if we're interested in a player.
Actually, in retrospect, we didn't get a great deal considering the time RvP had left on his contract; few thought he'd go for 24 million iirc.
Who said that?It wouldnt be the club but it would be a really big blow to our squad. For a team that is so reliant on its wingers, only having Young and Valencia would be ridiculous. If we let Nani go, we needed to get someone in of similar quality, not going to happen this late in the window.
If any of Hazard or Moura had signed United would have been looking for buyers. He is still here because those transfers failed to materialise. Nani must have felt unwanted. The poor soul.
yep, he was fed up with us and wanted out - now we are fed up with him and want to get rid. feckin media
Apparently he has fallen out of love with the club.
Arsenal or Spurs would make good destinations. The issue would be their pay structures.
how apparent?
The contract issue has dragged on for far too long tbf to him.
I don't want him to leave, he's one of our most talented players.
His assists and goals return is very good for a winger, and he's one of the few players we have who can take on men succesfully and consistantly.
Don't see what good it would do to flog him.
His assists and goals return is very good for a winger, and he's one of the few players we have who can take on men succesfully and consistantly.
Don't see what good it would do to flog him.
In the programme notes for Fulham Fergie said this:
But it seems that pretty much every article out there is linking that to Rooney with them saying that he's going to be leaving. I thought those comments were about Nani.
United were guilty of flirting with couple of younger models.
I'm saying that even on his worst form, he'll still be useful to us. Is that too difficult to understand? Jeesh.
Seems to be directed at Nani. Sir Alex said after the game there was no issues with Rooney being benched for the Fulham game, and he understood the situation. Nani was not in the squad.
Funny how many people here actuallly want him to leave.
And I expected it tbf.
And I expected it tbf.
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