They already have forwards of his calibre. If you want to use a forward as part of the deal you better be ready to lose Drogba or Sturridge
Luka Modric / Signs for Real Madrid
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RPI was just one of several factors I mentioned, but inflation - and more especially Prem-fees inflation - is certainly a valid factor. It's foolish to claim otherwise.
When finishing 4th in 2009-10, Spurs conceded 41 goals ... which is already more than your "cannot really concede more than 40".
Last season we conceded 46 goals - 5 more than previously, but only 3 less than Arsenal for example. But the big difference was the drop in goals scored (a drop of 12 compared to 2009-10), which is why signing a striker or two is the biggest priority.
I'm not against Spurs signing a quality CB, but it isn't the priority.
VdV is a completely different type of player to Modric and it wouldn't work to play him in a two-man CM.
It's hardly "amazing" that we wish to keep our best player. Modric will knuckle down and play to his best ability come the season kick- off.
Nor is is "amazing" that Spurs have no interest in strengthening Chelski's crocked and ageing CM. Time is running out ... so you'd best look elsewhere to get a new CM before it's too late.
Scholesy wants Modric.
I'd imagine that everyone at United does...
I still prefer Sneidjer to Modric and they are basically going to cost the same.
Their transfer fee might be same but Modric has other advantages, like cheaper wages (& wages constitute the larger portion of the expenses of a player anyways), younger, premier league proven, less injury prone etc.
But Modric does'nt want to leave London, Sneijder would apparently welcome a move to Manchester, so theres your stumbling block.
I agree with cheaper wages. Sneidjer is not injury prone and Modric is only like a year younger. Its not like Modric is 22 and Sneidjer is 27. Modric turns 26 in September and Sneidjer turned 27 in June. Plus don't even get me started on the nominations and awards Sneidjer has over Modric.
I don't think that Premier League proven is really that big an issue when you have won the Champions League where you were man of the match, the domestic league in 2 different leagues with 2 different styles of play, lead your team to the final of a World Cup, being voted the second best player at the World Cup and the joint top goalscorer.
You're kind of football proven by then.
He's not an unknown player, we all know what he's capable of. No player is PL proven before they come here, but we still keep buying them because they all know how to play football.
You're kind of football proven by then.
He's not an unknown player, we all know what he's capable of. No player is PL proven before they come here, but we still keep buying them because they all know how to play football.
Thank you! That is why I don't agree when people keep saying they prefer Modric just because he has played in the premier league for the last few years.
Don't know why people have bought into the whole Modric only wants to stay in London. That "fact" has been twisted by simple fact that Chelsea are the only club to have come with a concrete offer and he's said he likes London. Unless I've missed it, I haven't seen where he categorically said he won't move anywhere else.
As for comparison to Sneijder and accolades - those spoken by Scholes and SAF speak a lot more to me than some random awards. Balloteli won Golden Boy last season - what for?
Modric when given a chance has shown his ability as much as Sneijder has. So he's playing for Spurs and Croatia, teams that won't win much but, when playing for them against quality opposition at the highest level, he's performed really well. The biggest plus is the fact that he's played in the league and done it against them all.
I still hold a glimmer of hope that Spurs will buckle under his demands and just to feck with Chelsea, they'll sell him to us instead and I don't think he'd say no for one moment given the opportunity to do so.
As for comparison to Sneijder and accolades - those spoken by Scholes and SAF speak a lot more to me than some random awards. Balloteli won Golden Boy last season - what for?
Modric when given a chance has shown his ability as much as Sneijder has. So he's playing for Spurs and Croatia, teams that won't win much but, when playing for them against quality opposition at the highest level, he's performed really well. The biggest plus is the fact that he's played in the league and done it against them all.
I still hold a glimmer of hope that Spurs will buckle under his demands and just to feck with Chelsea, they'll sell him to us instead and I don't think he'd say no for one moment given the opportunity to do so.
Whilst I accept what you say about his achievements, there really is no guarantee with Sneijder, no matter how you dress it up. I wouldn't exactly say he was that great in Spain either, though I didn't see him every week. That seems to be the consensus on his time there though.
He didn't categorically state he won't move anywhere else, but he did say 'I want to stay in London.' Which is why people say he wants to stay in London.
The Chelsea being the only bid doesn't really matter, if he was open to a move everywhere including London you'd assume he would just say 'I want to leave' knowing it would attract offers from elsewhere and leave out the London part however since he expressed specifically the place he wants to live in, he knows that's going to shut doors elsewhere and by stating it, must be okay with it.
Do you think people say it just for fun then? For get Caf posters but, that are involved in football like say Sir Alex when he talks about players coming over and having to settle in, coming from another country? You actually believe that having proven you can cut it in some place in the North on a your snot freezes in your nose day is meaningless or that when you are faced with challenges that in any other league would get a player carded as a fair tackle means little?
Scholes himself made reference to how Sneijder isn't a guarantee to make it in the league here, highlighting how he wasn't great at Madrid. So you think he's full of shit?
Having played and performed in the PL means a lot, especially when you are paying 35m and 200k a week in wages, there isn't time to allow the player to settle down. Granted Modric making a simple move to another club may see him flop, much like Torres and many have done as they move within the league but, that still doesn't negate that having played in the league isn't a big experience plus.
There's no guarantee with any player ever from outside the league so should we stop buying them?
You've got unknown players that you don't know how they will adapt, which is fine to say about the league because you've got little to go on, they've played maybe a few games in their own league and you don't know much about them etc, or on the other hand you've got a world class player who has adapted to multiple leagues and won top honors in each as well as performed on the international stage which proves the lad knows how to kick a ball around the pitch, PL or MLS. I'm sure that when it comes to buying the top talents abroad, SAF doesn't stop and say 'wait, don't do anything yet, feck I've just remembered, he's not played in the PL before, what the hell do we do now...'
Well his supposed gentleman's agreement with Levy was if a big club came in for him with an offer, that Spurs would consider it. So it is Chelsea that have come in with the offer and he wants to leave for the offer that's on the table. It certainly doesn't sound like the agreement was if a club in London came for him. I think if any big CL club had gone in for him with a concrete offer, I think he would have listened to it regardless of it was in London or not.
Then he wouldn't have needed to say 'I need to stay in London.' Only that he wanted to move. He could have left out the part about where he wanted to live.
It's irrelevant what Modric said or didn't say. Just as it's irrelevant what Modric wants or doesn't want.
The only thing that counts is Levy's decision that he won't be sold, which he's made crystal clear.
One of a number of things I like about Modric compared to Sneijder is that he's obviously desperate to start winning things and would be highly motivated if he were to join a major European club.
I'm not sure I can say the same about Sneijder. He's basically achieved everything already or at least reached an extremely high level of success. I read several reports last season that his attitude was poor and that he was lacking motivation. That strikes me as a huge red flag. Would he see joining United as the biggest moment of his career? I doubt it.
Then there's the fact he hasn't played a consistent number of games in a deep lying playmaker role since 2008 and even then he was criticised for his poor fitness. There's the wife, who seems like a complete feckwit on the level of Posh cocking Spice. There's his questionable injury record and his typically Dutch personality (remember the problems with the Dutch players at Madrid).
And then there's the cost of the transfer which is absolutely ludicrous. The whole thing has financial disaster written all over it. After all we've said about striving to get value for money I just can't believe that we'd be even remotely interested in signing him.
I'm not sure I can say the same about Sneijder. He's basically achieved everything already or at least reached an extremely high level of success. I read several reports last season that his attitude was poor and that he was lacking motivation. That strikes me as a huge red flag. Would he see joining United as the biggest moment of his career? I doubt it.
Then there's the fact he hasn't played a consistent number of games in a deep lying playmaker role since 2008 and even then he was criticised for his poor fitness. There's the wife, who seems like a complete feckwit on the level of Posh cocking Spice. There's his questionable injury record and his typically Dutch personality (remember the problems with the Dutch players at Madrid).
And then there's the cost of the transfer which is absolutely ludicrous. The whole thing has financial disaster written all over it. After all we've said about striving to get value for money I just can't believe that we'd be even remotely interested in signing him.
But, did he say "I need to stay in London"? Not really. Like I said earlier, one little thing about liking London, wanting to stay in London and people have made it out to be that is the only place he wants to be.
And even then, him saying "I want to stay in London" doesn't prove that he wouldn't listen to other offers if they come does it?
In the same article /interview where he says "I want to stay in London" - he also says "If somebody comes to the club and the offer is good for me and acceptable to them, then I want to leave. It has to be good for my ambition. It has to be a club who are winning titles and playing in the Champions League."
Which kind of shows that because Chelsea have come for him and fit his criteria he wants to go, doesn't seem like staying in London was his top priority. Consider the fact that if London was his only choice then that would only leave him Chelsea as I doubt even he'd want to go Arsenal, the only other club that can fill out his main criteria. You think he'd limit his choices to only one club?
How many players get to say they have won the three biggest leagues in three of biggest footballing nations in Europe? I think that is motivating enough.
Is he really going to see winning the Premier League as that big a deal at this stage of his career and aren't you concerned by the reports out of Italy last season?
Typically Dutch personality? Please elaborate.
Player who has won and knows how to win things > player who wants to win things but hasnt yet
Also helps that Sneijder is comfortably a better player
Also helps that Sneijder is comfortably a better player
Arrogant cock?
Like Van Der Sar?
This stage of his career? What exactly do you mean?
or Van Nistelrooy?
Fantastic generalisation.
Player who wants to win things but hasn't yet > player who won everything in a season and then followed it up with a particularly lacklustre campaign
To be fair, he did hand in a few transfer requests that we all had no idea about at the time.
The whole Inter team did. Its not like they played well and he let them down.
I do think we need to be wary of it, but only in terms of the money we're prepared to pay.
Typical Englishman - Joey Barton
Typical Argie - Tevez
Typical German - Lehman
Typical Brazilian - Robinho,
etc, etc, etc. Yet for each of them, you could name 10 players of the same nationality who have had flawless careers. Retarded.
Typical Argie - Tevez
Typical German - Lehman
Typical Brazilian - Robinho,
etc, etc, etc. Yet for each of them, you could name 10 players of the same nationality who have had flawless careers. Retarded.
Van der Sar's fine but you can't have that one.
Van Nistelrooy was hardly an arrogant person though.
That was my 9000th post btw.
Ok, I'm being a bit harsh there and the generalisation was unnecessary but the Dutch aren't exactly known for their teamwork and down to earth nature are they.
In any case, we know enough about Sneijder to know that he is indeed an arrogant cock.