I might be a complete loser for knowing this, but I suspect he captained you in a victory over Portsmouth at Old Trafford at some point. Might be wrong though. I think it might have been 3-0 with him scoring a free kick.
Luka Modric / Signs for Real Madrid
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
I might be a complete loser for knowing this, but I suspect he captained you in a victory over Portsmouth at Old Trafford at some point. Might be wrong though. I think it might have been 3-0 with him scoring a free kick.
He also captained us against Bolton in the 07/08 season, when he scored from a free kick and equalled Best's record.
That was the game I was thinking of. If he wasn't captain, my bad. Someone will know.
It was Bolton at OT. We won 2-0, he scored a free kick.
Al was very close tbf.
Al was very close tbf.
Ahem...
I dont know about Spurs' situation, but Ronaldo was only captain because assumedly Ferdinand, Giggs, Neville werent in the team. Ronaldo was fairly high in the pecking order at the time.
It could be argued we gave a wantaway player the captaincy in order to convince help him to stay with Vidic.
£35million is about right IMHO.
Harry is dreaming if he thinks Modric is worth "an awful lot more than £35m".
That's a very good price for a player of his ability.
That's a very good price for a player of his ability.
Why the feck does Harry see the need to talk to the Media on a daily basis? I would think if he had a chance, he would talk to the media everyday - All day!
He's obviously signed a deal with Sky to be a rent-a-gob. Everyone else puts their head down and drives past the hapless Sky wonk at the training ground entrance except 'appy 'Arry who's always ready to burble away.
No it isn't.
Berbatov was sold for 30.75m 3 years ago, when he didn't have 5 years left on his contract and was older than Modric is now.
Try adding 3 years worth of compounded Prem-fees inflation onto 30.75m and see what figure you arrive at.
And when you've done the maths let me know, and I'll come back and tell you how much to add on top again to account for factors like age, contract length, the gangsters billions, overcoming Levy's pledge etc. etc
Tis starting to get annoying on SSN as well. An exclusive with arry consists of a quick minute of repetitive crap about Modric in the car.
Sky & Harry love each other, especially Jim White when it comes to transfer news.
Keeping on topic I still expect Modric to leave before the window shuts
£35M is about right. £22M was taking the piss.
What does Berbatov have to do with it? Every player's situation is different. I don't know why Fergie was so desperate to land Berbatov three years ago, but I bet if he could turn back time he'd have passed. Also, Man City after getting bought by oil rich sheikh at the end of August 2008 started making huge bids for every big name out there in the last hours of the window and forced United to overpay.
Of course you can name some ridiculous price and keep Modric. Good luck trying to convince any of your current talent or any newcomers to commit to the club long term after this.
If you are going to spout inflation as a way to determine how much a player is worth, you are down right desperate. Modric at around 35m is about right regardless if we bought Berba from Spurs for 30.75m. One has absolutely nothing to do with the other, especially 3 years on. When selling O'Hara, did Spurs consider how much Berba went for in determining his price? Doubtful.
One thing though from the Berba sale Spurs should look at is the fact they let the transfer go till the last day and then screw themselves going into the season, without a replacement. Harry keeps going on about needing to buy quality to match Spurs ambitions but, then has said he needs to sell in order to buy. Well they aren't selling anyone or at least no one is bidding. We are close to end of August and Spurs haven't made any significant moves, especially in the two areas that they need the most - Striker/CB.
If Spurs go into the season not having strengthened then not only do you have an unsettled Modric but, also then will be looking at having an unhappy Bale going into next season. Having 35m to strengthen plus offload a player that has his heart set elsewhere gone outweighs any moral victory of curbing player power Spurs might get from keeping Modric.
One thing though from the Berba sale Spurs should look at is the fact they let the transfer go till the last day and then screw themselves going into the season, without a replacement. Harry keeps going on about needing to buy quality to match Spurs ambitions but, then has said he needs to sell in order to buy. Well they aren't selling anyone or at least no one is bidding. We are close to end of August and Spurs haven't made any significant moves, especially in the two areas that they need the most - Striker/CB.
If Spurs go into the season not having strengthened then not only do you have an unsettled Modric but, also then will be looking at having an unhappy Bale going into next season. Having 35m to strengthen plus offload a player that has his heart set elsewhere gone outweighs any moral victory of curbing player power Spurs might get from keeping Modric.
30.75m compounded over 3 years at even just 6% annually = nearly 37m.
Even just 6% annual inflation is not much less than the current 5% RPI rate. Prem inflation rates have been/are much higher.
So you think a fair price is for Spurs to sell Modric - who is younger than Berbatov was and has a much longer contract than Berbatov had - for less money (in real, inflation-accounted terms) than Berbatov was sold for? Jog on.
It's all academic anyhow. Modric won't be sold.
speaking of inflation, some of you lot have an inflated opinion off Modric
imho
imho
Berbatov and Modric are linked because in both cases (a) they were/are our single best player (in fact Modric is more key than Berbatov was); and (b) Spurs don't wish to sell. Neither of these things applied to O'Hara. Then there are the age, contract and other factors which all point to a much higher price for Modric.
If you believe that then you'll believe anything. It's foolish to take anything that Harry says at face value, especially following a season of record income for Spurs.
They won't, so the rest of your point falls.
He's a good player, one of very few of his type in the PL (Fabregas and Wilshere probably the only other two of his type now Scholes has retired) and plays where Man Utd are weakest.
So then when Harry says £35m isn't good enough I should think he's lying, too.
I said it was foolish to take at face value anything that Harry says, which means it's an unreliable basis for reaching conclusions either way concerning truth or lies.
The words you should focus on are those from Levy, which is why Chelski are wasting their time.
So basically you choose to believe what you want to believe, then.
When Harry says he needs to sell in order to buy, he's lying.
When he says £35m is too small a fee for Modric, you believe he's being honest.
He isn't that good.
The 1st quote from Harry, yes, I think he's playing mind games .... as events will shortly demonstrate.
Re. the 2nd quote, I haven't said he's telling the truth - I don't know either way, I'm simply given my view on Modric's worth. But what Harry has said on this is irrelevant, because what counts is what Levy has said - one day you might actually twig this.
Still the price Berba went for 3 years ago has nothing to do with Modric's value in today's market. Modric value is being determined by what other such players are going for and 35m since the beginning has been known as approx what it will take. Chelsea have tried to get him cheaper but, that hasn't worked.
And you'll believe anything by the fact that you take at face value that Modric isn't for sale being spouted by Levy? Hasn't he been known to sell a player after he said that?
Um duh - off course the point doesn't hold if Spurs do strengthen. But, you claim is as a fact.
You'll have to buy real quality in the striker and CB department. That will not only take a good amount of money but, also desire for a quality player in that position to come to Spurs. With the whole Modric situation up in the air and unpleasantness of Levy supposedly reneging on his word to Modric, you are supremely confident that you'll be able to attract those players?
I think Levy will sell but, is trying to get as much as he can before he does that and they won't make any major moves till after that happens. And that I think is going to hurt Spurs again. Going into next summer with the possibility of Harry taking the England job and very likely missing out on CL again will only make it even harder to attract players but, keep the good ones you have. Whatever moves they are going to make, they need to make them now to give them a real shot at top 4, otherwise next summer is going to really suck for you.
Depending what prices Fabregas and Sneijder go for, if they do leave, 'Arry could be in for a rude awakening if he thinks he'll get £35million for Modric 'cos the other two will go for similar and are superior players in my opinion.
Says who? Only those engaging in wishful thinking can have reached this conclusion.
The only one who knows "what it will take" is Levy. His view on this has been expressed in the strongest possible terms .... and it's the only view that counts here.
No, Levy has never before issued a statement anywhere close to the one issued re. Modic.
Yes .... watch this space.
I don't see that a CB is an especial priority. Dawson + King/Gallas/Kaboul is decent.
And yes, I'm confident that Spurs will sign at least one good striker - not a young prospect like Coulibaly, but one that is ready to step straight into our first XI.
You do know what a fact is right?
As far as Levy goes, he apparently had some sort of deal in place with Modric which he hasn't refuted (and unless you are calling Modric a liar), so clearly goes against something he's said. And if he is as a shrewd businessman then am sure more than once in his time he's said things he didn't really mean.
lol @ you really don't see a CB as a priority as King/Kaboul/Gallas as strong enough so you can challenge for a top 4 spot. As for a striker, since you are so sure - who exactly for a fact is it that you are getting that will improve your current striker force, Vucnic is maybe what you are hanging your hat on?
I'd say I am going to have a laugh when as the season goes along Spurs will rue not having cashed in on Modric and made purchases for players that want to be there and ones that they really need but, I like Spurs and will be sad to see them fall short again next season.
As far as Levy goes, he apparently had some sort of deal in place with Modric which he hasn't refuted (and unless you are calling Modric a liar), so clearly goes against something he's said. And if he is as a shrewd businessman then am sure more than once in his time he's said things he didn't really mean.
lol @ you really don't see a CB as a priority as King/Kaboul/Gallas as strong enough so you can challenge for a top 4 spot. As for a striker, since you are so sure - who exactly for a fact is it that you are getting that will improve your current striker force, Vucnic is maybe what you are hanging your hat on?
I'd say I am going to have a laugh when as the season goes along Spurs will rue not having cashed in on Modric and made purchases for players that want to be there and ones that they really need but, I like Spurs and will be sad to see them fall short again next season.
You ask if I know what a "fact" is, then say that Levy "apparently had some sort of deal in place with Modric"
The only fact here is the fact of a 6 year contract that Modric signed and which contained no get-out clause.
Re. CBs, I mentioned not just "King/Kaboul/Gallas" but also Dawson. In addition we currently have Khumalo, although possibly he might be loaned out. King might not play often, but he's still class when he does. Gallas - I imagine Arsenal wish they still had him as an option, because certainly they wanted him to stay. And Kaboul has improved considerably - recently broken into the French senior team.
So, no, I don't agree that a new CB is the huge priority that you make out.
As for a new striker (or maybe two), as I've said .... watch this space.
King and Gallas are injury prone. Dawson was injured for some time last season. I think one more solid CB and a really good striker and you will good enough for fourth place.
You ask if I know what a "fact" is, then say that Levy "apparently had some sort of deal in place with Modric"
Huh? I asked if you knew for a fact that Spur's would strengthen and you said "Yes, watch this space" - asking to watch this space, which is really you speculating they'll strengthen but, don't know for a fact.
Sad thing is if Spurs do keep Modric, you'll see it as avictory for Spurs/yourself even if you don't get the players to sufficiently challenge for a top 4 spot.
Last season you were going into the CL and yet it wasn't until the last minute you bought VDV and if not mistaken it was so late that had to go through some hoops to get him registered. In the winter transfer on the back of some great victories in the CL and offering a lot of money, the club was not able to pull of any deals. If it was that difficult for Spurs to entice, it's amusing to see that you are supremely confident that you'll get your man this time around.
Well it's probbaly more sensible than using the FPI (football price index) which if benchmarked on Carroll would have you paying about £60M for Modric.
Kalou wouldn't be much good to them playing a 4411. He can't play up front on his own and VdV's in the hole with Bale and Lennon wide.