Marouane Fellaini | 2013/14 Performances

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It's funny you say all these top clubs were after him. He had a simple release clause.

So why didn't these top clubs pay that?

I bet Scholes knows a good midfielder when he sees one. And with Fellaini, we are seeing none of that. He is slow just plays it safe and hasn't even scored.
 
NoArroJusBeta said:
Yea he knows shit about coaching, Well he'll probably known more than I do but he'll know a heck of alot less than for example Moyes who has tons of experience more than him on the matter, especially concerning Fellaini since he has worked with him for years. So yea Scholes says a better manager wouldn't play Fellaini in the XI, I say wtf does he know about it.
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Maybe he was commenting that a better manager wouldnt play fellaini in a United first team , there is a difference, because he knows what it takes to be a player at United , I was just surprised at your comments regarding a player who has taken most of his coaching badges and being a good player ,I don't think good comes really close. I made the "honestly" comment because I seriously thought you were on a wind up :)
 
Jaapster said:
Honestly??
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NoArroJustBeta is actually Fellaini. Reading his comments about him you may think that Fellaini has the talent of Zidane, the passing ability of Xavi, the creativity of Riquelme and the word ethic of Makelele.
 
Lu Tze said:
Every source supports my argument. You have provided nothing but your opinion.

Statement from Fellaini of Arsenal's interest in him(when he had nothing to gain from disclosing it): Check
Variety of media sources leaking Arsenal's interest in him: Check
Wenger's statement that he think's Fellaini's a good player and could be part of an Arsenal team: Check

Also nice ad hom. Good logic. 10/10 would logic again.
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Nothing to gain? Players and their agents will say different things when they're looking for a big move. You know, when there's big money involved. This club wants them, that club. Doesn't necessarily mean every club is really interested. Let's face it, Wenger decided to pass on signing him.

Media sources, also known as tabloid speculation. Sometimes true, sometimes planted by sources close to players when they are looking to move. See above.

I bet Wenger made similar comments about lots of players when asked. But that's the thing, when asked. And still he never even made any bid for Fellaini, official or not, or got involved in a bidding war with us. In fact, no other clubs did.

Explain why this was, cos everything else you've said proves nothing. Maybe he thought he wasn't as good as Robben, Lewandowski, Pedro, like the rest of us. Check.
 
NoArroJusBeta said:
£7m is an acceptable punt, its also £7m less to spend, because Bébé is absolute trash that doesn't even know how to play the game properly because he never had a professional eduction as a footballer and if we wanted to take a punt on him we could have signed him for free a couple of weeks earlier.

Fellaini offers more for his £27.5M than Bébé ever will for his £7m to say otherwhise is just ridiculous. Fellaini is an overpaid decent footballer, Bébé is a £7m homeless amateur.

Well for one he is a far better passer than Jones, he offers more defensively than Giggs, he is more mobile and forward thinking than Carrick (and actually finds himself several times in a game in a goal scoring postion, and it is just a matter of time before he starts scoring) and unlike Fletcher the guy is actually fit and capable of playing 90 minutes several times per week. This season he has been far more usefull than any of these players in the midfield (including Cleverley for that matter). Does that make him a £27.5 Million player, no it doesn't, however does make him alot more usefull than alot on here are giving him credit for.

You can start accepting he is here, forget about the price tag, try looking at positives and supporting him, hoping that he'll find his form again he had at Everton or you can just bitch about every little detail you don't like about him until the end of times.
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You realise that Bebe has 8 goals in 21 games this season in the Portuguese top flight right? You know, despite his cruciate ligament injury, despite the lack of footballing education? Give him a couple of seasons and see where he is after that. Bebe wasn't bought as an instant impact player in a position that we were lacking in.

He's a better passer than Jones (a centre back by trade) but worse than Fletcher, Carrick and Giggs who all have a longer range of passing and Carrick and Fletcher are much more incisive passers, who can set a tempo.

He's also half as quick and twice as lazy as Jones. He's not as mobile as Carrick, who has good balance, better feet and is a lot better in tight spaces. Carrick's also better at spotting the forward pass, which is why he was at centre back rather than Fellaini against West Ham. Fellaini has been given the freedom to go forward more than Carrick, because Carrick's actually got a semblance of defensive nous and positioning which normally has lead to Fellaini charging somewhere ahead of the play, not doing anything useful and then taking an age to get back into position. As many have mentioned, his defensive abilities are mitigated by the lack of defensive intelligent and mobility.

I've seen no evidence that he was ever worth his price tag and as I said I hope he improved but you have to suspect that he's never going to be good enough here.
 
Bojan11 said:
Fellaini isn't coming into a new league. For a £27m player you expect someone who can dominate games. Who can score goals. He has done none of that.
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Exactly. For a player who can apparently play in two different positions, you would expect him to be able to adapt a lot quicker if he was really any good. It's not like he's never played against us either.

Or is it that Moyes, who wanted so badly to sign him, has been playing him in the wrong position and system even after managing him for the last 3 seasons?
 
Revan said:
NoArroJustBeta is actually Fellaini. Reading his comments about him you may think that Fellaini has the talent of Zidane, the passing ability of Xavi, the creativity of Riquelme and the word ethic of Makelele.
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Reading your post you may actually think you have the reasoning capacity of a brain death monkey. Where the feck have I said he has the passing ability of Xavi or is as good as Zidane ?

If saying that he is a better passer than Phil Jones is saying the same as that he is as good as Xavi then there is not much point in trying to reason with you.
 
NoArroJusBeta said:
Well first of all that isn't true, Scholes has 0 trophies while Moyes has the football league second division title he won at Preston north end and he also won the community shield last summer with United.

And if that is your kind of reasoning that Scholes must be as good of a manger because he hasn't won shit without even trying, that I myself or you or everybody here on the caf or even a chimpansee must be a better coach because the same applies to them.
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Actual trophies. I assume you consider Wenger's haul of Emirates Cups to be quite the trophy collection, eh? League 2 and the Community Shield are the type things City brag about and are not real trophies.

My point is that Scholes has accomplished as much as Moyes in management without ever managing a game. Moyes has been in management for more than a decade and never done anything noteworthy by Manchester United's standards. Being "decent" or "good despite the budget restraints" aren't exactly resume builders.

Your argument is that Scholes knows nothing about management based on nothing. By your reasoning, since you've never played top flight football or managed a club so you know nothing about either. Scholes has been involved in football at Manchester United for virtually his entire life. That experience is far more than valuable than "nothing" as you claim.
 
NoArroJusBeta said:
Reading your post you may actually think you have the reasoning capacity of a brain death monkey. Where the feck have I said he has the passing ability of Xavi or is as good as Zidane ?

If saying that he is a better passer than Phil Jones is saying the same as that he is as good as Xavi then there is not much point in trying to reason with you.
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hyperbole

Anyway, the point stands. You have been exagerating about how good is Fellaini simply because he is of your nationality. You have been trying to convince everybody that he is anything more than a completely useless player.
 
how the hell did the FA see this , nobody did at the time, not a one City player at the time said anything and I am sure they would if it was a deliberate act, players spit all the time, don't really think there is a story here. The FA are idiots, the ref cocked up giving him a deserved red card so are trying to give in a ban for something that every player does.
 
Eugenius said:
You realise that Bebe has 8 goals in 21 games this season in the Portuguese top flight right? You know, despite his cruciate ligament injury, despite the lack of footballing education? Give him a couple of seasons and see where he is after that. Bebe wasn't bought as an instant impact player in a position that we were lacking in.

He's a better passer than Jones (a centre back by trade) but worse than Fletcher, Carrick and Giggs who all have a longer range of passing and Carrick and Fletcher are much more incisive passers, who can set a tempo.

He's also half as quick and twice as lazy as Jones. He's not as mobile as Carrick, who has good balance, better feet and is a lot better in tight spaces. Carrick's also better at spotting the forward pass, which is why he was at centre back rather than Fellaini against West Ham. Fellaini has been given the freedom to go forward more than Carrick, because Carrick's actually got a semblance of defensive nous and positioning which normally has lead to Fellaini charging somewhere ahead of the play, not doing anything useful and then taking an age to get back into position. As many have mentioned, his defensive abilities are mitigated by the lack of defensive intelligent and mobility.

I've seen no evidence that he was ever worth his price tag and as I said I hope he improved but you have to suspect that he's never going to be good enough here.
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The only thing Carrick does these days is stand still and pass backwards or sideways. Honestly how you can spout such positives about Carrick is beyond me, the guy has been absolutley useless for an entire an season and he is the main reason we have been as bad as we have. Last year he was a very usefull midfielder, precise in his passing, doing all sorts of work, this year he has been shadow of himself, I have wondered at times if Carrick could even move as just stays in one zone. Defensively Carrick also does zero this season, the game passes him by and he gets beaten so easily its no wonder we concede so many goals. I've often seen this season when Fellaini is on we are alot more composed at the back and when he is off we are alot more exposed, I've not been the only one to make that observation either. So to say he doesn't offer anything defensively or his postioning is all wrong or he is all over the place doing nothing, is just ridiculous. The guy is what Carrick is not, box to box, he actually makes the effort to contribute offesnively while Carrick is scared or incapable of doing so. What you say about it taking an age until he is back in position is also not true, or atleast it is overstated.
 
He has dominated teams when playing for Everton, but its more down to how they played.
If he played uptop they would boot it up to him and he would batter defenders.
If he plays as DM, he would have workers round him who would do the pressing and he would nab the ball. When hes attacked from deep, it always seemed planned as soon as he is in the box the ball is crossed into him.

We don't do this, he not going to play up top, even though we should give it go when we have clearly run out of ideas.
When he plays from deep, the only games when he has played well is along side Fletcher who does the pressing. Though when we attack we never seem to use him. When the attack break down he just seems to stroll back.
If we are not going fire crosses into the box, he should just sit in infront of the back four and let everyone else do the attacking.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
how the hell did the FA see this , nobody did at the time, not a one City player at the time said anything and I am sure they would if it was a deliberate act, players spit all the time, don't really think there is a story here. The FA are idiots, the ref cocked up giving him a deserved red card so are trying to give in a ban for something that every player does.
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The same way the majority of these trial by tv's incidents happen. One person see's it, uploads it and within an hour thousands have seen it.
 
Revan said:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hyperbole

Anyway, the point stands. You have been exagerating about how good is Fellaini simply because he is of your nationality. You have been trying to convince everybody that he is anything more than a completely useless player.
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I have not been exagerating about how good Fellaini, I have simply said he is a proper footballer and he can be usefull at United if you employ him in the right way. I still stand by that because it is the truth. Have we seen the best of him no, does this mean he is useless no it doesn't. Also I have never said he is worth his price tag, on the contrary I have always said we have overpaid for him and we shouldn't have (but I fail to see how his price tag is relevant in any of this).

Ofcourse I have been trying to convince people he is more than a completley useless player, because he isn't a completley useless player. Do you even realise what you are saying, completley useless... The guy was the standout player at Everton for years, he is experienced, he is an international and he it is not like he doesn't posses a single quality on the pitch. People like you are making out he isn't good in any kind of way, he has nothing to offer and you'd think he wasn't anything more than the standard championship quality midfielder, not even good enough to be playing in the PL (or atleast top 6). Sorry but that is just unacceptable criticism on a player that deserves more than that.

I don't care what nationality he has, I don't give a feck about Fellaini, I am not patriotic in any kind of way. I just feel like he is being made a scapegoat and is overly criticised because Moyes brought him in and alot of people are projecting their anger about Moyes and the clubs performances at him and that is unfair in my book. The guy is a new player in a very difficult team, even Mata is struggling and looking nothing like the player he was at Chelsea, you think that is coincedence, the team just doesn't work anymore, there is no system, the coaching is all wrong, the confidence and self believe is low and the team spirit is unexistent, it is very hard for players to establish themselves in these circumstance, if so many of the players we heralded as champions last year are struggling with it all, how can you expect a player like Fellaini not to ? On top of that I find that the criticism he is getting for his performances have been injust, he wasn't nearly as bad as many people want to make out. In fact he has been amongst the players who have been decent in a number of games, grant it not the big ones, but nobody was playing up to standard in those big ones, so why single out Fellaini ?
 
Spiersey said:
The same way the majority of these trial by tv's incidents happen. One person see's it, uploads it and within an hour thousands have seen it.
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I think he should use the "I wasn't spitting at you, I was asking you did you accuse me of spitting at you" defence.
 
NoArroJusBeta said:
The only thing Carrick does these days is stand still and pass backwards or sideways. Honestly how you can spout such positives about Carrick is beyond me, the guy has been absolutley useless for an entire an season and he is the main reason we have been as bad as we have. Last year he was a very usefull midfielder, precise in his passing, doing all sorts of work, this year he has been shadow of himself, I have wondered at times if Carrick could even move as just stays in one zone. Defensively Carrick also does zero this season, the game passes him by and he gets beaten so easily its no wonder we concede so many goals. I've often seen this season when Fellaini is on we are alot more composed at the back and when he is off we are alot more exposed, I've not been the only one to make that observation either. So to say he doesn't offer anything defensively or his postioning is all wrong or he is all over the place doing nothing, is just ridiculous. The guy is what Carrick is not, box to box, he actually makes the effort to contribute offesnively while Carrick is scared or incapable of doing so. What you say about it taking an age until he is back in position is also not true, or atleast it is overstated.
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:lol: You're just being silly now. Carrick isn't a box to box player, he's a deep-lying midfielder. He's not supposed to get ahead of the ball. He's meant to anchor our defence and take the ball and start attacks. Which he has done so for the seven seasons prior to this, which coincidentally is the most successful seven years in the history of our football club.

Fellaini is a limited player. Stop trying to argue otherwise, when you're talking about box-to-box midfielders that top title winning teams have had - Toure, Vieira, Keane, Gerrard, Lampard - do you think Fellaini is anywhere near them? Because that's the sort of level we need.

And as for getting back into position, please watch the relative movements of Fellaini (who is closer to the ball) and Carrick.

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starman said:
He has dominated teams when playing for Everton, but its more down to how they played.
If he played uptop they would boot it up to him and he would batter defenders.
If he plays as DM, he would have workers round him who would do the pressing and he would nab the ball. When hes attacked from deep, it always seemed planned as soon as he is in the box the ball is crossed into him.

We don't do this, he not going to play up top, even though we should give it go when we have clearly run out of ideas.
When he plays from deep, the only games when he has played well is along side Fletcher who does the pressing. Though when we attack we never seem to use him. When the attack break down he just seems to stroll back.
If we are not going fire crosses into the box, he should just sit in infront of the back four and let everyone else do the attacking.
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He has done it in the belgian national team aswell in a similar role as what he is havin now at United. I have never ever felt the guy was out of his depth or that the position didn't suit him. He works hard, plays box to box, is usefull in bulling the other team when they are in position to pressure them and recover the ball, he is usefull as an offensive midfielder as well, he offers an aerial threat with corners and he gets to score a goal on regular occassion. Not been one game, but almost every game I have seen off him and he always plays in the Belgian national team, he is a key player and merritated by performance. Combined with the displays I have seen off at Everton over the years, I fail to see how this guy is absolutley useless for a team like United.
 
Brophs said:
I think he should use the "I wasn't spitting at you, I was asking you did you accuse me of spitting at you" defence.
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You need to be a model professional and human being to use that excuse, no way would that work for Fellaini.
 
NoArroJusBeta said:
I have not been exagerating about how good Fellaini, I have simply said he is a proper footballer and he can be usefull at United if you employ him in the right way. I still stand by that because it is the truth. Have we seen the best of him no, does this mean he is useless no it doesn't. Also I have never said he is worth his price tag, on the contrary I have always said we have overpaid for him and we shouldn't have (but I fail to see how his price tag is relevant in any of this).

Ofcourse I have been trying to convince people he is more than a completley useless player, because he isn't a completley useless player. Do you even realise what you are saying, completley useless... The guy was the standout player at Everton for years, he is experienced, he is an international and he it is not like he doesn't posses a single quality on the pitch. People like you are making out he isn't good in any kind of way, he has nothing to offer and you'd think he wasn't anything more than the standard championship quality midfielder, not even good enough to be playing in the PL (or atleast top 6). Sorry but that is just unacceptable criticism on a player that deserves more than that.

I don't care what nationality he has, I don't give a feck about Fellaini, I am not patriotic in any kind of way. I just feel like he is being made a scapegoat and is overly criticised because Moyes brought him in and alot of people are projecting their anger about Moyes and the clubs performances at him and that is unfair in my book. The guy is a new player in a very difficult team, even Mata is struggling and looking nothing like the player he was at Chelsea, you think that is coincedence, the team just doesn't work anymore, there is no system, the coaching is all wrong, the confidence and self believe is low and the team spirit is unexistent, it is very hard for players to establish themselves in these circumstance, if so many of the players we heralded as champions last year are struggling with it all, how can you expect a player like Fellaini not to ? On top of that I find that the criticism he is getting for his performances have been injust, he wasn't nearly as bad as many people want to make out. In fact he has been amongst the players who have been decent in a number of games, grant it not the big ones, but nobody was playing up to standard in those big ones, so why single out Fellaini ?
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He isn't. Or in most cases, he isn't. Like on this year, he wouldn't be starting on any of the top 6 teams.

He was Everton's best player last 3 seasons (or at-least on top 2 with Baines) but that means nothing. Moyes was also the manager of them and he is useless for us. A big jump, and unfortunately for Fellaini, he lacks all the attributes required to succed in this level.

Mata has shown on past how good he is on a good system. Fellaini has shown in the past that he can stop the ball with his chest well, can score a few headers and give a few elbows. When Moyes gets the sack (unless the new manager will be Allardyce or Pulis) Fellaini will be out of the club even faster than Carroll got out of Liverpool when Rodgers came.
 
Lu Tze said:
What incentive does Fellaini have to lie about interest in him after he signed for United? He's got his contract - it's not like he had to drum up further interest. In any case, do you seriously believe all transfer bids are made in the public domain? Of course they're not, 90% of dealings between clubs and agents are private. Fellaini was linked with Arsenal throughout the summer, so it's not like his statement came from nowhere.
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Thats a lot of assumptions about what I do and don't believe about the transfer process.
 
Eugenius said:
:lol: You're just being silly now. Carrick isn't a box to box player, he's a deep-lying midfielder. He's not supposed to get ahead of the ball. He's meant to anchor our defence and take the ball and start attacks. Which he has done so for the seven seasons prior to this, which coincidentally is the most successful seven years in the history of our football club.

Fellaini is a limited player. Stop trying to argue otherwise, when you're talking about box-to-box midfielders that top title winning teams have had - Toure, Vieira, Keane, Gerrard, Lampard - do you think Fellaini is anywhere near them? Because that's the sort of level we need.

And as for getting back into position, please watch the relative movements of Fellaini (who is closer to the ball) and Carrick.

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Carrick has often been criticsed for not contributing enough offensively. I remeber in the summer people were blaming this on the fact he needed to partner with Cleverley who did nothing of his defensive work which is why Carrick needed to restrain his game. Alot of people advocating the signing of Fellaini did so because he would allow Carrick to play more offensively, it never materialised and when Fellaini restrained his game early this season and played from the back it was as if we had 2 CDM playing and none of them going forward and contributing offensively. Obviously Moyes changed that by switching the roles between Carrick and Fellaini, but as I said Carrick still doesn't play his role up to standard. Does that mean Fellaini is briliant, no it doesn't he makes to many mistakes, loses to many balls and offensively he isn't finishing his chances but he is been playing far more usefull than Carrick so far (and that video you embedded doesn't change shit about it).
 
Revan said:
He isn't. Or in most cases, he isn't. Like on this year, he wouldn't be starting on any of the top 6 teams.

He was Everton's best player last 3 seasons (or at-least on top 2 with Baines) but that means nothing. Moyes was also the manager of them and he is useless for us. A big jump, and unfortunately for Fellaini, he lacks all the attributes required to succed in this level.

Mata has shown on past how good he is on a good system. Fellaini has shown in the past that he can stop the ball with his chest well, can score a few headers and give a few elbows. When Moyes gets the sack (unless the new manager will be Allardyce or Pulis) Fellaini will be out of the club even faster than Carroll got out of Liverpool when Rodgers came.
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Depends on the manager that comes in and what kind of system he'd want us to play in. I can imagine plenty of decent coaches coming in an retaining Fellaini in the role of a box to box midfielder in a 3 man midfield. Rodgers had no use for Caroll because he doesn't play with crosses from the wings, he plays high tempo pressing counter attacking football and he choses for fast technical players upfront with Suarez, Sterling and Sturrdige.
 
Revan said:
He isn't. Or in most cases, he isn't. Like on this year, he wouldn't be starting on any of the top 6 teams.

He was Everton's best player last 3 seasons (or at-least on top 2 with Baines) but that means nothing. Moyes was also the manager of them and he is useless for us. A big jump, and unfortunately for Fellaini, he lacks all the attributes required to succed in this level.

Mata has shown on past how good he is on a good system. Fellaini has shown in the past that he can stop the ball with his chest well, can score a few headers and give a few elbows. When Moyes gets the sack (unless the new manager will be Allardyce or Pulis) Fellaini will be out of the club even faster than Carroll got out of Liverpool when Rodgers came.
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Word. Woeful signing. Better players are out there for £27.5m. Moyes made a massive balls up buying this joker
 
NoArroJusBeta said:
Depends on the manager that comes in and what kind of system he'd want us to play in. I can imagine plenty of decent coaches coming in an retaining Fellaini in the role of a box to box midfielder in a 3 man midfield. Rodgers had no use for Caroll because he doesn't play with crosses from the wings, he plays high tempo pressing counter attacking football and he choses for fast technical players upfront with Suarez, Sterling and Sturrdige.
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Fellaini is an awful box to box midfielder. He has good mobility but zero discipline. His passing is catastrophic, is vision is zero. He is a brainless, untalented Yaya Toure. Who will get a lot of booking/send off for elbowing others.

If the manager is any good (that means excelude all British managers except Rodgers) he will be out very fast.
 
Rood said:
why are people going on about Scholes - what did he say about Fellaini?

Edit: Ok i found it: http://thepeoplesperson.com/2014/03...ta-and-doesnt-understand-how-moyes-uses-mata/

Says hes not been great so far and should score a few, which is fair comment - but people seem to suggest worse comments than that?
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That's the state of this place for you at the moment. Everything seems to be interpreted in the most extreme sense. Apparently Scholes crucified both Moyes and Fellaini with his comments. Not to mention the highly suspicious fact that he was in the studio in the first place.

What he said, I suppose, was that Fellaini hasn't really solved our CM woes - that was the context: where must United strengthen? He highlighted Fellaini because he plays in the middle of the park and is a recent purchase. One who has not impressed so far in his short United career - and, yes, who has failed to score for us, something he was known for doing at Everton. All fair comments by Scholes - none of 'em amount to him crucifying Fellaini, though.
 
bobbyf said:
Nothing to gain? Players and their agents will say different things when they're looking for a big move. You know, when there's big money involved. This club wants them, that club. Doesn't necessarily mean every club is really interested. Let's face it, Wenger decided to pass on signing him.

Media sources, also known as tabloid speculation. Sometimes true, sometimes planted by sources close to players when they are looking to move. See above.

I bet Wenger made similar comments about lots of players when asked. But that's the thing, when asked. And still he never even made any bid for Fellaini, official or not, or got involved in a bidding war with us. In fact, no other clubs did.

Explain why this was, cos everything else you've said proves nothing. Maybe he thought he wasn't as good as Robben, Lewandowski, Pedro, like the rest of us. Check.
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As pointed out before Fellaini made his Arsenal comment AFTER he had signed for us.

Wenger passed on him, yes. According to the rumours at the time he wasn't willing to cough up the 23 mill required to trigger the clause. But he did make contact with Everton regarding Fellaini. Which proves...what? I don't know. That he isn't a completely useless footballer? Perhaps. I don't think anyone here, not even his staunchest supporters, would claim he was worth his transfer fee.
 
Revan said:
Carroll the worst, Keane the best (mainly because he recuperated most of the money). Fellaini between them.
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well, they recouped some of Carroll's money as well. Sold him for 15m to WHU.

TBF I can't see any club that will buy Fellaini at the moment for more than 10m...
 
.Rossi said:
"It was a defensive move by me to protect the ball"

Is he winding me up?? Or is he just that sht??
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Think about it. How many players are able to take the ball from you while simultaneously searching the grass for their front teeth?
 
Enigma_87 said:
well, they recouped some of Carroll's money as well. Sold him for 15m to WHU.

TBF I can't see any club that will buy Fellaini at the moment for more than 10m...
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Dont be fcuking stupid - regardess of his performances for us (which havent been all bad anyway), he's a regular international for one of the WC seeded teams - you dont get one of those for £10m

I can understand that some people dont rate him but idiotic comments like this really piss me off
 
sullydnl said:
Nah, Fellaini is good enough to be a squad player in a CL winning team. As Lu Tze pointed out, other teams have won it with worse.

The real problem facing us regarding Fellaini is how long it will take us to strengthen midfield to the point where he is just a squad player. The real problem facing Fellaini is the fact that he will be forever associated with a failing manager, he'll forever carry the weight of that price tag and he'll forever be used as an easy scapegoat for failings that existed long before he arrived. Unfortunately this may damage him to the point where he struggles to even be a successful squad player here.
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I will agree with you to the extent that any CL winning squad needs a few blue-collar footballers, hoofers with heart, to get the job done on cold and windy nights at Stoke. Fellaini could someday become such a player.
 
Rood said:
Dont be fcuking stupid - regardess of his performances for us (which havent been all bad anyway), he's a regular international for one of the WC seeded teams - you dont get one of those for £10m

I can understand that some people dont rate him but idiotic comments like this really piss me off
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Whenever I see you posts, Rood, I'm reminded of the great Harold Rood. May he rest forever in peace, his country and his students forever in his debt.
 
Enigma_87 said:
well, they recouped some of Carroll's money as well. Sold him for 15m to WHU.

TBF I can't see any club that will buy Fellaini at the moment for more than 10m...
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Well, it is still a 20 loss.

I think that a physical team would pay around 15m for Fellaini. I guess that the likes of Big Sam, Pulis would love to have him in his team. MOyes too, probably he will sign him for the third time.
 
Rood said:
Dont be fcuking stupid - regardess of his performances for us (which havent been all bad anyway), he's a regular international for one of the WC seeded teams - you dont get one of those for £10m

I can understand that some people dont rate him but idiotic comments like this really piss me off
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Yeah you don't...
 
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