He was okay, Carrick and Cleverley deserve credit for making it tough for him. I'd want a little bit more from him if he was on my team though and I'm a big fan of his.
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Giroud is not a "brilliant match" for Özil. Giroud is the type of player who prefers to play with his back-to-goal bringing teammates into play. Özil is a visionary and a chance creating specialist. He needs someone to make penetrative runs in behind in order to make use of his passing ability. Özil and Walcott would be a better combination and it showed earlier in the season.
Wenger has destroyed Podolski's career. I think he'd have been a bigger threat to us than Giroud.
You obviously haven't watched Arsenal much this season, Giroud apart from his purple match has been back to his last season form. Not making runs, spends most of the time tussling with defenders (usually losing out) and fluffing the chances he got. Should of got two goals today but yet AGAIN in a big game a chance falls his way and he misses. That is now City, Man Utd, Chelsea & Liverpool where he has had chances to win us or get us back into the game and he has missed, my own personal view that is why our results against the top teams haven't been that good.
Giroud has his limitations but his holdup play and bringing others into the game is a big reason for your attacking success. Its certainly a different style to previous Arsenal strikers under Wenger. Unfortunately it needs someone to profit from it. Step forward Ramsey... Oh you cant stand? Well its unlikely to be Ozil. Both Giroud and Ozil are better at supporting someone else smashing the ball into the net.
He looks shattered to me too. He had the same issue at Madrid, he barely ever lasted the ninety minutes there. It's something he's going to have to improve on.
I don't think he is shattered but one of his key attributes has been taken away from him because we simply have no players getting in behind the defence so no through ball on. When Wilshere had his chance early in the game Ozil spotted it straight away but he can't do anything if nobody is bloody moving!
His hold up play and bringing others into the game has gone AWOL for months mate, he usually loses the ball quickly and like I said his finishing has been appalling this season.
His hold up play and bringing others into the game has gone AWOL for months mate, he usually loses the ball quickly and like I said his finishing has been appalling this season.
I haven't, and that's probably where I got the assumption he was making the runs, like when he darted across the near post. Saw him do that often near the beginning of the season when he was looking to be one of the top Prem strikers.
Ozil was easily the best player on the pitch.
Green smilie.
He showed some nice touches as always but again failed to create or score. He's a world class player but he's not living up to that price tag and his dry spell continues.
In all seriousness, you can't be happy with his contribution in the bigger games. I know it's his first season and he's still adapting to the Premier League but you can't be happy.
Finished watching the game two minutes ago as I'd recorded it. Özil finished the game decently but was completely anonymous for huge parts. Very mediocre performance, once again.
I thought Ozil did everything required of him. The Arsenal forwards around him simply didn't do enough.
He wasn't even the best player in your team.
More recently he has been terrible, you know things are bad when some Arsenal fans are calling for Bendtner to start ahead of him!
Finished watching the game two minutes ago as I'd recorded it. Özil finished the game decently but was completely anonymous for huge parts. Very mediocre performance, once again.
If you think that performance was mediocre I think you were watching a different match mate.
That was Cazorla.
It was, really. As I said, he came alive in the end, but he had a mediocre first half, and wasn't anything special until the last 20 minutes (when he started playing a lot with Santi Cazorla and did well). If you feel it was a good performance, my feeling would also be that you weren't watching the same match.
...in the last 20 min. or so.
Ozil was always going to look ordinary in a game where he has no one running off the ball or between defenders for him to pick his spot (it's what he does best). I don't understand how Wenger set up the team yesterday with zero urgency to win the game.
Thought he played well. But one thing that seems to be missing from his game at the moment is dribbling, he used to glide past players at Madrid, what happened to that?
I also think it would help having a world class striker in front of him and not Giroud.
I also think it would help having a world class striker in front of him and not Giroud.
I thought Ozil was fine yesterday, need more runners in front of him hence the lack of penetrating passes but he was much more energetic yesterday and outshone our attackers in my opinion.
The plan was (as v Chelsea) not to go gung-ho against a team who love to play on the counter. In both games if Giroud had taken his chances we'd have won.
I dont get why Wenger doesnt play Podolski. He is far more dynamic and explosive than Giroud. He can try play one or the other. He can try playing them together. But instead he insists on starting Giroud, who to be honest looks exhausted.
I thought Ozil was ok yesterday, did as well as anyone else on the pitch bar maybe Cazorla. Which is fine if you are not the clubs record signing and someone who is considered to be one of the best number 10s in the world. It doesnt help however that he has Giroud playing ahead of him...
I thought Ozil was ok yesterday, did as well as anyone else on the pitch bar maybe Cazorla. Which is fine if you are not the clubs record signing and someone who is considered to be one of the best number 10s in the world. It doesnt help however that he has Giroud playing ahead of him...
Same applies to Mata for you, who certainly wasn't the man of the match.
Mata was piss poor - only shaded out of 'worst Man Utd player on the pitch' by Vidic (who was monstered by Giroud and escaped his 3rd pen/red at our place in 5 years - 
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).True but you mustn't forget, this is only Mata's 4th game for United, Ozil has played with his new team mates for half a season.
Amazing how many of the same people criticising Ozil are also defending Mata.
Aye.
Both had average or at the best above average games I thought. Mata was used poorly though in his defence.
See post above yours. Plus he's played hardly any football this season, full stop.
Ozil did actually play ok against United. A marked improvement on the woeful anonymity in some other big games this season. Perhaps all the criticism made him take his thumb out his arse?
He has played some football. He's also played in this league for two seasons.
Still, I accept it takes players time to bed in. Clearly you don't.
I've said before that the criticism Ozil gets is ludicrous. I stand by it.
Ozil was decent. Nothing spectacular, but both sides looked devoid of confidence and movement, which makes it hard for players like Ozil and Mata.
On paper Arsenal have one of the best midfield in the league - Ozil, Cazorla, Rosicsky, Flamini, Arteta, Wilshere, Ramsay.
Yep, but he should be on the other side in that role. It'l suit him more.
And this is why at United, Ozil, Kagawa, Mata even or any other attacking midfielder won't ever be as good as they are at any other club (at least under Moyes they won't). Attacking midfielders like them all need and benefit immensely from teams with short passes and off the ball movement. Ozil has been really harshly criticized, and only recently gone off the boil a little because Arsenal lost some form, but yesterday I thought he was one of your best players. Mata was always going to be a bit ineffective for us if we lined up like we did, even though he did still have a few good moments.
He wasn't 'spectacular' but in a game full of piss-poor to mediocre efforts he was comfortably the best outfield player on the park.
Ozil is a world class player. There are very few players in the world who are as good as him in the final third. He is every striker's dream come true. He puts it on a plate for them. He hasn't been that bad imo he's doing what he used to do at Madrid. He's not a Fabregas(what he used to do for Arsenal) or Silva who orchestrates the offense and builds attacks, he's not THAT involved. He's the one who provides the final pass. Give him a base and he'll put the ball in the right place at the right time 9 out of 10 times and he'll do it consistently over and over again.
He's had some bad performances but people as usual have gone way over the top with their criticism of him. Can never judge a player from abroad on his first season but on the whole he has made our attacking game a hell of a lot better and more efficient.
You could also say Mata has played in this league for a number of years so should be able to adapt quicker. So basically what I'm trying to say is anyone can twist their argument however they want to suit their point!
You could also say Mata has played in this league for a number of years so should be able to adapt quicker. So basically what I'm trying to say is anyone can twist their argument however they want to suit their point!