Hopefully Ed and the board doesn't have so much self pitty.
Mourinho or Pogba?
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Hate this thread, hate this poll and hate this place right now.
We didn't spend less than Chelsea, but yes, we spent less than City (not considerably so). And for the money we spent, we have severely underperformed both in the league (6th and even second came at 19 points behind first) and UCL (being trashed from a weak Sevilla). Most importantly, the football has been dogshit.
I don't think that many top clubs would have given to him a third season. He should consider himself very lucky!
Nah doesn't hold weight. At least Martial can claim he's not being played in his favoured role.
If Pogba wants out because he was dropped for a couple of games after poor form then feck him. If he does want out it's much more likely he's just looking to upgrade though
Pogba without a doubt.
Its a bit of fun christ some people get a grip
Ending up at 2nd last season was lucky, based on statisitics: Most shots on goals conceded, fewest shots and chances created in the top 6.
One of them is an overrated prick who has got to where he is due to fortunate events and because of those around him.
The other is a prick who only cares about himself and how he appears in the paper.
The other is a prick who only cares about himself and how he appears in the paper.
Uhh, yeah, one sided, but not the way you expected?This will be very one sided, can't believe you wanted to be proved wrong this badly
I voted Pogba and I’m not even sure he’s good enough to play for United. But a future where some other managers turns him into the player he has the potential to be is just too tempting. Admittedly this is probably a pipe dream.
Still, though, the alternative is Mourinho staying as our manager for longer than he is as it stands. Surely nobody wants that?
Still, though, the alternative is Mourinho staying as our manager for longer than he is as it stands. Surely nobody wants that?
No, I was the one who said that the majority would side with wanting Pogba to stay over Jose, it was obvious to me that most people would agree with me.
Forget Pogba. I'd gladly let Mou go for Martial!
Me too buddy.
It was such a good place before..
Thanks man.But we love you and your misery.
What's the guarantee Mourinho won't do the same?
There are a lot more managers than there are top class central midfielders around. They are also cheaper and easier to get.
So what? At least we'd be rid of Mourinho. That's the point
Neither
This is why I can’t believe the poll isn’t even more of a landslide. Even if you think Pogba is an overrated ponce, why not gamble on him coming good if it means a fresh start with a manager who could get us all feeling positive about the team again?
I'm sure Pogba knew all about Mourinho before he came back here. It's no secret that he's defensive and pragmatic. Has been for a long, long time. It's Pogbas job to play no matter who the manager is. If he doesn't like Mourinhos style then he was a bit daft to return.
I don't particularly like Jose either, but I don't see a manager getting sacked to appease a player. Maybe if it was Messi or Ronaldo, but no one else.
Wait, which is which?
Pogba, I am hoping him and Martial can hang on until Mourinho is gone.
Easiest choice ever. Definitely Pogba
Can’t we have a neither or both in the pole?
A manager who stays for 3/4 season or a player who is 100% out for himself and we have to choose?
A manager who stays for 3/4 season or a player who is 100% out for himself and we have to choose?
Ahh. Sorry. Your name has me prejudiced.
The wages, the platform for his brand and the possibility of becoming the main man at Manchester were hard to refuse, no matter the manager. Sometimes when an opportunity is really good like that, you focus so much on it you don't realize it can be tough. It would have been daft for him to refuse this opportunity, Mourinho or not.
What a very silly thread and even more a really stupid poll!!
Hoping the same. It'll be gutting if either leave and José remains.
In this situation, you would choose Pogba over Mourinho. However Pogba's experience the past two years have made him a better player because he has to adapt to a harder, more demanding league. United have been a better team with both Jose and Pogba.
If Pogba leaves and proper reinforcements are addressed throughout the squad because of Pogba's transfer money and/or players swapped for him, then we'd have to consider that.
Because Pogba is far and away the best outfield player at Manchester United and his position is so important to the team, then it's a no brainer. The poll just doesn't do the full situation justice and is an easy stick to beat Mourinho with.
If Pogba comes back and makes a fecking mess out of this situation with Raiola, then I would immediately change my vote. But one thing is for sure, if you ask who has the better interest in the club...Jose or Pogba, I'd side with Jose.
If Pogba leaves and proper reinforcements are addressed throughout the squad because of Pogba's transfer money and/or players swapped for him, then we'd have to consider that.
Because Pogba is far and away the best outfield player at Manchester United and his position is so important to the team, then it's a no brainer. The poll just doesn't do the full situation justice and is an easy stick to beat Mourinho with.
If Pogba comes back and makes a fecking mess out of this situation with Raiola, then I would immediately change my vote. But one thing is for sure, if you ask who has the better interest in the club...Jose or Pogba, I'd side with Jose.
This is a pointless thread. We could end up with neither next season
Pogba. Though at this point id probably keep the official noodle sponsor over meltdown phase Jose.
We have may neither this time next year
We have may neither this time next year
Definitely neither. Mourinho is too whiny and Pogba is a mercenary who hasn't produced on the field.
Probably showing my age but surely I’m not the only one sickened by the idea that this is actually a thing in modern football?
Or, to put it another way, can we please stop signing footballers to whom this shit matters? Somehow I can’t see the likes of Luka Modric worrying about his cocking brand platform.
Unfortunately, branding and marketing matters not only to footballers but to clubs as well. Taking a cut of image rights is how clubs recoup transfer fees and offer high wages. Also, having more marketable players (e.g., Pogba with millions of followers on SN) means more PR for the club.
You take the good with the bad.
Most of the top tier athletes in the world now care about their brand off the field. It's only normal.
I'm looking forward to Jose leaving just so I can enjoy the meltdown as manager after manager comes here and fails hard.
Something about how the club is run on the football side has been rotten for a very long time. Think about the terrible lack of investment during Ferguson's last five years. Followed by the failure to give Moyes the players he thought he was getting and the clueless buying of mediocre players under LVG.
This situation has been ten years in the making and I predict it will get plenty worse after Jose has gone no matter who comes in as manager.
If I'm wrong I'll hold my hands up and admit it.
Something about how the club is run on the football side has been rotten for a very long time. Think about the terrible lack of investment during Ferguson's last five years. Followed by the failure to give Moyes the players he thought he was getting and the clueless buying of mediocre players under LVG.
This situation has been ten years in the making and I predict it will get plenty worse after Jose has gone no matter who comes in as manager.
If I'm wrong I'll hold my hands up and admit it.
I like Paul but I'm uneasy about choosing a player over a manager...even if it were Vangle or MoyesRUs.
A world class player or a poor manager ?
Pogba of course !
Pogba of course !
They are both employees, choose the one that in your opinion will be more valuable for the club long term.