North Korea

MaxiPaxi said:
Morbid curiosity. Also, as far as I know it's actually difficult for foreigner to get thrown into a prison in NK so long as you do what you're told. Which I will obviously. I'm not mad. Haha
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Some kid is doing hard labour for stealing a poster from the hotel. I'm not sure if he even stole it.
 
AkaAkuma said:
Some kid is doing hard labour for stealing a poster from the hotel. I'm not sure if he even stole it.
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He did apparently as part of a dare when he was at College in the US. There's a CCTV image of him doing it. Such a stupid thing to do.
 
Klopper76 said:
He did apparently as part of a dare when he was at College in the US. There's a CCTV image of him doing it. Such a stupid thing to do.
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Just read about it again, he didn't take it as it was too big.
 
We need an rvn said:
Although I've heard that Russia have a bomb called the Satan 2 which could reportedly wipe out somewhere the size of Texas/ France.

Happy Easter..
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SS-X-30 Satan 2 (Nato reporting name) or RS-28 Sarmat as it is called in Russia is a new ICBM (Intercontinental ballistic missile) that is currently being developed by Russia. It can carry between 10 to 24 independently targetable nuclear warheads depending on the setup with a total of 50mt of explosive yield, which is just a little less than the Tsar Bomba. The Tsar Bomba was only a test weapon that was developed for propaganda reasons during the cold war. It would be impossible to deliver a weapon of that size any meaningful distance because of it's weight and therefore it had no operational use.
 
We need an rvn said:
The last few posts (mine included) have made me realise earth has allowed itself to "created" a species capable of killing the one thing it needs to survive, earth (that's if you don't believe in God which is a complete other topic and way off thread topic so will stop there) - what a ****** up species we are.
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Just wait to hear about Russia's Perimetr AKA "Dead hand" system that can launch the entirety of their nuclear arsenal automatically.
 
So, are the US going to launch a missile at Japan or South Korea to frame Kim the same way they framed Assad? :angel:

Just joking
 
The Firestarter said:
Just wait to hear about Russia's Perimetr AKA "Dead hand" system that can launch the entirety of their nuclear arsenal automatically.
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I know in the 80s that a single Soviet radar operator decided he saw a false positive (during a particularly tense moment with Reagan who was moving missiles to Europe), and didn't do what he was supposed to have done (which would have resulted in annihilation). Has that manual part of the system changed? Are we in literal Dr Strangelove territory?
 
berbatrick said:
I know in the 80s that a single Soviet radar operator decided he saw a false positive (during a particularly tense moment with Reagan who was moving missiles to Europe), and didn't do what he was supposed to have done (which would have resulted in annihilation). Has that manual part of the system changed? Are we in literal Dr Strangelove territory?
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That incident was not related to the functioning of this particular system. What happened in 83 was a satellite malfunction that mistook solar flares for hundreds of ICMB launches. The officer on watch decided not to declare it a launch, although the alerts were also relayed upwards in the chain of command.

What the Perimetr system supposedly does, is to monitor a multitude of factors and conditions including communications with command posts, radiation levels, early warning radars, etc. The idea is that in the event of a decapitation strike, the system would take over and launch a special missile, that would send radio messages to all the missile sites in Russia, which in turn would execute the launches automatically. I don't think all their missiles can be launched that way though. Being liquid fueled they require some more (manual) preparation than solid fuel counterparts.

Note that the US has similar provisions, although they are not as automatic. They have two types of special aircraft one is Looking glass for the Minuteman land based ICMBs, the other is TACAMO, which is for issuing orders to the SLBM fleet. The land missiles can go into radio mode if they lose communication with their C&C facilities, presumably because of a nuclear attack. In that mode they can receive launch commands over the air. I don't think they fly daily now, as it was during the Cold War.
 
MaxiPaxi said:
Of course they're strict but nohere as strict as they used to be. I've checked, though, one can go in for €900 or so, as a part of a group. I think the method of transportation is up to you as long as you have proof of being able get into a country across the Dandong river when you're getting the overnight train. I was just wondering has anyone had experiences of doing something similar? You never know, Caf is a very cultured place. Lol

Well from what I've read in books, seen in documentaries, scientists are treated with carrot or the stick type whip. Most of the new developments in Pyongyang go to rocket scientists, high ranking officers and government officials, until you feck up. Then it's the gulag for you and your family.
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They are still very strict and you can only go there in groups and you are never allowed to leave those.
As for the train, it's possible from Beijing if you are part of such a tour. Friends of mine have done this, you can't leave the train, but it's the closest you ever get to "normal" North Koreans. They travelled with an Army brigade and good horribly drunk. My mate couldn't tak a photo from the train station the next morning because he was still to wasted to hold his camera still.
 
My wife and my daughter still in South Korea at least until this december for her study purpose.

Do you lot think is safe for them considering the tense situation between USA and North Korea?
 
x42bn6 said:
History suggests North Korea will pull out of these talks for an unrelated reason and use them as an excuse to bash South Korea or the US.
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History also suggests that the US will use N. Korea as a punching bag and drop thousands of bombs and napalm on civilian populations.
 
Winrar said:
his education in switzerland means next to nothing. he's already living a life of luxury on his own while seeing his citizens starve to death so I don't see any reason why he would want a capitalist society for the rest of north korea.

as you probably know already north korea indoctrinates people from birth with useless (outside of n.korea) history and juche ideology; if north korean citizens saw that outside of their bubble people were ridiculing north korea and their fairy tales left and right, wouldn't they start to question the regime? opening up = fall of regime. period.

most of the country can't even get basic needs like clean water and electricity, and there's no sign of economic improvement outside the capital apart from products smuggled from china, so internet for the general public is out of the question in the first place until this silly regime falls apart.
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The last time North Koreans had any interaction with the outside West it was via a Napalm bomb dropped on their villages. I'd be sceptical of the West too if that was the sort of diplomacy I experienced.

How much of the poverty experienced in N. Korea is as a result of the economic sanctions imposed on them by a west that wants to limit their access to nuclear power when the West has stockpiled more nuclear weapons than it knows what to do with?

Each time that Korea tests a nuclear weapon remember that the US tested nuclear weapons on its own soldiers, making them walk towards the blast centre with litmus paper in their pockets to see what the effects would be and that Los Alamos in New Mexico has had thousands of nuclear war heads detonated in it by the US in a bid to ensure that they were the nuclear supremisists of the world.

I think in that context N. Korea deserves a little bit of a gentler approach.

Imagine a country sailing it's nuclear enabled fleet towards your country 60 years after it had dropped more bombs on your country than in all the wars combined up to that point in history. How concerned would you be with the perception of the western media outlets then?
 
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South Korea saying that North Korea as launched a test of a Ballistic Missile
 
Green_Red said:
The last time North Koreans had any interaction with the outside West it was via a Napalm bomb dropped on their villages. I'd be sceptical of the West too if that was the sort of diplomacy I experienced.

How much of the poverty experienced in N. Korea is as a result of the economic sanctions imposed on them by a west that wants to limit their access to nuclear power when the West has stockpiled more nuclear weapons than it knows what to do with?

Each time that Korea tests a nuclear weapon remember that the US tested nuclear weapons on its own soldiers, making them walk towards the blast centre with litmus paper in their pockets to see what the effects would be and that Los Alamos in New Mexico has had thousands of nuclear war heads detonated in it by the US in a bid to ensure that they were the nuclear supremisists of the world.

I think in that context N. Korea deserves a little bit of a gentler approach.

Imagine a country sailing it's nuclear enabled fleet towards your country 60 years after it had dropped more bombs on your country than in all the wars combined up to that point in history. How concerned would you be with the perception of the western media outlets then?
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I think someone is confused about Asian nations.

As a starter please understand it was the North Koreans supported by China and the USSR who brought war to the Korean Penisula and destruction to the villages and cities of the South.

In regards to what aboutism that really doesn't make North Korea ok
 
Curious... Does the upper echelon of the NK government and military know what's truly going on outside NK?

Or is outside knowledge limited to like a dozen to a couple dozen or so persons?
 
CNN saying the missile landed in the sea of Japan, but others reporting it exploded within seconds.
 
Contradictory claims. I don't see why the South Koreans would lie and say that it failed after a few seconds.




 
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Red Defence said:
How are these reports contradictory? If it failed after a few seconds and was fired from the north coast of NK then it would have landed in the Sea of Japan wouldn't it?
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US officials are saying it travelled 30-40km before landing in the sea. South Koreans saying the launch failed seconds into the flight and exploded.
 
This is extremely reckless (as well as insanely idiotic) test firing ballistic missiles that are exploding over land, even if it is their own land. What the heck will happen if they manage to keep it in the air for a few minutes and then it ends up exploding over Japan. Kimmy boy needs a clip round the ears before he does any serious damage.
 
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