Politics at Westminster | BREAKING: UKIP
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Depressing as it may be, Farage is probably man of the year. Building up a national movement based on an issue previously confined to rightwing idealogues and types like the Major from Fawlty Towers to trigger the biggest disruptive event in modern British history, is an impressive achievement even if, like me, you wish he had stuck to commodity trading in the City.
Just noticed.
I suppose the majority want a world where Nigel Farage is the person of the year. It tends to be those most influential rather than do gooders, we all know they've had worse before.
It'll be him or Trump. Hopefully they fall out over it
They had Hitler in 1938.
Adolf Hitler, Time Magazines's 1938 Man of the Year. On January 2, 1939, Time Magazine published its annual Man of the Year issue. For the year 1938, Time had chosen Adolf Hitler as the man who "for better or worse" (as Time founder Henry Luce expressed it) had most influenced events of the preceding year.
Adolf Hitler, Time Magazines's 1938 Man of the Year. On January 2, 1939, Time Magazine published its annual Man of the Year issue. For the year 1938, Time had chosen Adolf Hitler as the man who "for better or worse" (as Time founder Henry Luce expressed it) had most influenced events of the preceding year.
It's just to do with influence right? I think he should win it tbh, he's had a huge impact on the face of politics in this country without ever actually winning an election.
Who won last years person of the year. Without searching google.
Not sure really. He was a notable face but I don't think he did much more than ride the wave. He wasn't even part of the official leave campaign because they were too embarrassed by him.
I'm not really sure he had a massive bearing on the events of this year and arguably he actually was a hindrance to the Leave campaign.
I won it in 2006. I try not to mention it too often.
Putin or Merkel.
I agree with you on the couple of months leading up to 23 June - I think his main contribution was over the longer term, building up UKIP to such an extent that Cameron was spooked into holding a referendum to try to kill the issue. Previous Conservative leaders had always safely assumed that disaffected eurosceptics had nowhere else to go. Although Farage and his Brexit cause were certainly lucky, benefiting from the tough times that have followed the 2008 crash, a feckless and/or cynical bunch of Conservative leaders and a Labour party with a death wish.
Whilst someone like Boris was a persuasive figure for Leave , he did turn up rather late for the part. And ultimately, so far as his immediate leadership ambitions went, ended up with the bubbly in his lap. If he were PM at this moment Time might have considered him differently. Farage on the other hand, has been a leading advocate for decades. UKIP is now a sustained political force in both England and Wales, aside from the EU Ref. From an American PoV, there are those who believe that Brexit helped in some small way to bring about Trump's victory also.
For a year of such political shocks UKIP are an apt symbol for the state of Western politics generally: post-industrialisation and globalisation, concerns about immigration, anti-establishment, the voters' dissatisfaction with centrist parties e.t.c.
For a year of such political shocks UKIP are an apt symbol for the state of Western politics generally: post-industrialisation and globalisation, concerns about immigration, anti-establishment, the voters' dissatisfaction with centrist parties e.t.c.
And, of course, con-men.
Farage is a complete irrelevance, couldn't get a seat in the UK parliament, stealing a living from pretending to be an MEP and if the UK do leave the EU his party will disappear completely, just a con-man, trying to magnify his importance by clinging to Trump.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38248316
The joys of giving a political rival a job he is not remotely suited for, so he can tarnish his image.
Nah it sums up how completely nuts number 10 is under May. Well and truly jumped the shark when you are briefing that the views of the foreign secretary are not the views of the government with regards to foreign policy
She's damaging herself just as much, here, is she?Nah it sums up how completely nuts number 10 is under May. Well and truly jumped the shark when you are briefing that the views of the foreign secretary are not the views of the government with regards to foreign policy
Realistically she would be if there was a strong opposition up against her. She's fast becoming exposed as someone with little idea of how to deal with the countries most significant issue, and the only thing she's particularly convincing on is making porn more difficult for the nation to find.
It's hard to read because she's getting a soft ride in the media and from the public at the moment.
But frankly it should damage her more than Boris as 1. Boris is actually talking sense here for once and 2. Everyone could see Boris making statements like this a mile off. That's why there was general incredulity at her decision to appoint him foreign secretary. If it back fires that's on her, not him.
There seems a tendency to attribute more cunning and competence to May than there is evidence for. See article 50 court case, Brexit memos, CBI speech, etc.
In an ideal* world this should be as big a scandal as Labour's uncertain position on Trident.
*in a more ideal** world everyone should have Boris' view on this
**in an even more ideal world, the kingdom of Saudi Arabia wouldn't exist in its current form.
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***********Finally, in the ideal world, you have fully automated luxury gay space communism
That's a pretty good summary.In an ideal* world this should be as big a scandal as Labour's uncertain position on Trident.
*in a more ideal world everyone should have Boris' view on this
Looks like it's close between the Lib Dems and UKIP for second in the Sleaford by election, LD swing will be interesting to see given it's a Leave area.
I swear the places by elections are held are just made up.
Pretty good result for the Tories all told, pretty bad for UKIP, meh for Lib Dems. But very low turnout.
May should call an election. She doesn't really even have a mandate to do the things she's doing, like bringing back grammar schools and all that stuff. Her party has the mandate but she doesn't for the post of PM.
Without reading too much into a single by-election, it seems that as shit and incompetent as the current government is, it doesn't matter to Leave voters as long as they get their Brexit.
Not to mention the lack of an effective opposition. The Labour Party are absolutely fecked for the next election.
Yeah seriously. It's like 'ok let's take a look at the results from Lower feckinbottom and see how they compare to last years surprise numbers from Lesser Felchhampton'.
Apparently we just sold the national gas grid to China by the way. I'm assuming next week they'll announce they're starting gladatorial fights where poor unemployed Northerners duel against death robots to try and win food stamps.
It doesn't really matter either way. THe only question is if the decline is terminal.
Possibly... though if a deal is not negotiated in the very tight time frame perhaps the article 50 negotiations are extended by all parties agreement and then actually the ratification of the final deal falls slap bang around the next election making the next election essentially a defecto second referendum... personally I'm not sure I could take the tantrums and lies from both sides if this happened... and I think it's a decent possibility given how long most trade deals seem to take
Yeah its very much a single issue right now. Labour are all over the place and don't really have a shared position, UKIP are becoming irrelevant and the Lib Dems pick up the brexit denier vote.
It needs to play out before any political debate can take place. Crazy position to be in but thats where we are and its why May knows she can do what she likes right now.
http://schoolsweek.co.uk/dfe-had-agreement-to-share-pupil-nationality-data-with-home-office/
Corbyn would never do it, but I'd love to see someone question May over her claim to be guided by her Christian faith whilst attempting to push the children of illegal immigrants to the bottom of the list for school places.
Home Office pilots one-day immigration application scheme
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...pilots-one-day-immigration-application-scheme
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...pilots-one-day-immigration-application-scheme
Christ...even foreign pilots are flying to Britain now.