We must be the only fanbase in the world, that i've noticed, that is totally convinced we must have a manager that's won it all and that any manager that hasn't, no matter the circumstances, is worth nothing to us whatsoever. When clubs like Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Borussia Dortmund, Chelsea etc, are perfectly fine with hiring managers that haven't won anything significant
yet, you'd think that would be enough to convince people but apparently not because we are so superior and we must have instant success, we just don't see the bigger picture.
When I look around, the argument seems to be that everyone wants to have it all, everyone wants attacking football, winning football, trophies every season, has to play youth, or, this quote said it better...
Embarassing thread. I refuse to vote. But whoever comes one day is fecked. New manager must play youth, he must play attacking football, he must win titles, he must buy world class players at maximum age 24, he must kiss players before sleep and praise them every day in media and above all he must sign contract on at least 10 years because anything else is short term option.
So the pressure must be on poor Jose Mourinho to deliver all this and it's so unfair to him to have all of this hyped up on him and how is it possible for him to deliver, except, any reasonable supporter doesn't want all of this.
I mean I really don't see how this thread is embarassing, nobody reasonable is asking Mourinho to do all these things, okay do we expect a youth product in the running to be played by the club, yes, but don't most teams? i mean big teams like Bayern Munich manage it just fine so why is it such a burden for us. People want attacking football, but apparently this isn't connected to winning football, people seem mystified that you can play attacking football AND win, perhaps people are sick to the back teeth of falling asleep during another snoozefest of a match that De Gea has kept us in and want to be entertained, people pay had earned money to support the team and take in Football as Entertainment, because first and foremost that what this is, i don't see that as an unreasonable demand given the players at our disposal, the money spent, and the fact that most other top clubs are playing this way bar 1 or 2, and even then our football looks dour in comparison to them at times.
As far as i'm concerned people would be a lot less concerned about winning titles every season, especially early on in a managers stint, if we could see some actual plan, something to get us off our seats and actually say, you know what, yes we are going somewhere with this, it may take time but it will get there. Why do you think Liverpool and Tottenham fans are happy with Klopp and Pochettino, we can poke fun that they haven't won anything but they are excited because of what they see on and off the pitch and they realise things are headed in a direction where winning something, and winning it well, is something that will highly likely be on the horizon, Spurs less so because of their financial restrictions in comparison, but regardless, its there... As opposed to what, Mourinho's slapped ass face moaning about his players and the transfers consistently, causing issues with players such as Martial and Pogba, getting excuses in early, playing shit on a stick football against teams we should of been smashing off the park and going out early in the CL because of it...
Sorry but no, i get behind the club, i don't get behind the manager just simply because he is the manager and I feel like it's not in the best interests of the club if he stays, if he ballses up or gives me reason to give him stick, i'll give him stick because he deserves it, and I personally don't feel Mourinho is a good fit for United, and i don't want to watch my team play the utterly shite football he has them playing, i make no apologies for stating that right now, the fact for me is he's sucked all joy out of watching the club I love because of whats happening on the field and because of his antics off it, and don't start giving me this tinfoil hat crap about the media having an agenda against him and United, Mourinho gives them fuel for the fire, we don't see the "nicer" side of Mourinho because it's been damn few and far between these days compared to when he first came on the scene.
"Well go and support Liverpool or Spurs then!!!1!11!1on1eonEONe" I hear people start to cry, anybody who sais this really does not get it, Mourinho was brought in for short term success whilst sacrificing other aspects that come with him, everyone knew this, but the fact is, and lets face reality, it isn't going to happen on the scale everyone wants (aka Title and CL) and the sooner people wake up and face the reality we are in the better, we are watching as teams like Liverpool, Tottenham, City, Chelsea, and even Arsenal now build foundations for long lasting competitiveness and possible future success, hell, City's strategy is already paying dividends and Liverpools nearly did last season, whilst we are hoping Mourinho pulls a title win out of his ass before he sods off in a season or two, because make no mistake, he will.
Td;lr this thread isn't embarassing and planning for a future without Mourinho is smart and healthy because I cannot stand the poisonous attitudes the fans have gotten since he's been here and he's sucked all the joy out of the game and the club I love, for me anyway.
Sorry, but that kind of definitive statement without any basis did deserve to be mocked. I couldn't resist)
