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what?Firstly we are one of the three biggest clubs in the world, that is not up for debate, even our hated rivals would agree to that. Pep leaving City and coming to United wouldn't be out of the realms of possibility but the two things arent connected at all. We are bigger than City and likely always will be and Pep could leave City but only because he wants to. Theres no taking a manager from a rival because of how big we are.
First job- manchester united. Great way to lose season or two while he is learning .
Player- coach in smaller/average club- big club ; that is the way how things should work. Not in the way-" hey, i am club legend so i deserve job here". Being a world class player does not mean that you are world class manager material. Look at neville, maradona, seedorf, gattuso...
Not giggs for sure.
At the earliest you would think would be end of next season
Julian Nagelsmann seems a wise head on young shoulders (but I expect him to be a Bayern when we are looking for a new manager)
Marco Silva did very well at Olympiakos winning the league scoring 81 and conceding 16 (30 games), don’t think anyone could have done any better at Hull
Nuno Santo did a good job a Valencia, and I’m enjoying watching the way Wolves play, be interesting how they get on the the prem next season
Julian Nagelsmann seems a wise head on young shoulders (but I expect him to be a Bayern when we are looking for a new manager)
Marco Silva did very well at Olympiakos winning the league scoring 81 and conceding 16 (30 games), don’t think anyone could have done any better at Hull
Nuno Santo did a good job a Valencia, and I’m enjoying watching the way Wolves play, be interesting how they get on the the prem next season
Simeone would be my first choice, Poch second with Jardim third.
I've always had a things for managers who breed that winning, warrior mentality into their players and who would give up everything to win. It's why I'm a big fan of Simeone.
I've always had a things for managers who breed that winning, warrior mentality into their players and who would give up everything to win. It's why I'm a big fan of Simeone.
I agree with your Top 3. Simeone is my first choice, Atletico are always difficult to beat and play tight compact counter attacking football much like how Jose likes to set us up now. Therefore it wouldn't be a big change of philosophy or way of playing for the team unlike the transition from LVG's possession based tactics.
And lets not look at Zidane? Guardiola?
Surely people can't be this dense...Zidane and Guardiola are actually good managers. They didnt just walk up to their clubs and demand being the manager, they showed that they are competent. Both spent time in the B teams and quickly showed that they have potential.
If memory serves me correctly, Giggs lost to Sunderland in his caretaker role. As assistant manager under LVG he was a mute.
Have a look at our current manager to see what an actual competent manager is like, Both LVG and Bryan Robson considered Jose Mourinho as a future top manager while he was their assistant.
he'd go to psg, city, chelsea or juve over us, trust me Zidane has no connection to United.
Impossible to predict that far off
Poch would 100% be my choice, but given that we're talking 3-4 years from now, its hard to say what his situation will be. And there's every chance the manager we end up with is one that emerges in the next few years.
Only thing I'm certain of is that I want a young, fresh manager who's prepared to stay for a while. Definitely don't want another Mourinho-type figure (I love Mourinho, just don't want another like him).
Only thing I'm certain of is that I want a young, fresh manager who's prepared to stay for a while. Definitely don't want another Mourinho-type figure (I love Mourinho, just don't want another like him).
I'd like Poch.
Predict we'll be in need of a new manager by the end of next season.
Predict we'll be in need of a new manager by the end of next season.
So managing the B team is good enough to prove you're a senior manager?
The only people dense here are those thinking "you have to prove your worth in the lower leagues first and then manage a top side". It never works like that. Management is hit and miss. Moyes "proved his worth" for a decade doing very well with a very pool Everton side. How did he fair when he got the big job? Zidane proved almost nothing and how did he fair? LVG was the most experienced manager who had won trophies all over and what happened?
Management isn't that straightforward. It is always a gamble who you give the job to. I would want use to take a gamble on Giggs.
That threw me for a second but you obviously mean Bobby.
I'll be happy with either Poch or Sarri.
We might be looking for a new manager sooner than we think. The way Jose is talking up the project at PSG hints at the fact he may have been sounded out for the PSG Job. Managing PSG would certainly appeal to him in terms of salary, lifestyle and transfer budgets. If Jose leaves for the bright lights of Paris I would like us to sign in order Jardim, then Simeone then Carlo Ancelotti. Jardim would be the first choice because he plays exciting football and can achieve success on a limited budget. Simeone is a winner and would instill a warrior like attitude at the club however it wouldn't be champagne football. Carlo Ancelotti is the old pro that has a coaching record that's second to none and is a classy person to boot. I would not want Giggs as he has no credentials and would be a very high-risk appointment.
Wheel Tommy 'Brave Heart' Doc back in.
No simeone please.
Pochettino, Marco Silva, Sampaoli, Sarri are decent options. I want to enjoy the football we play, Peter Bosz maybe too if he proves himself at Dortmund.
Pochettino, Marco Silva, Sampaoli, Sarri are decent options. I want to enjoy the football we play, Peter Bosz maybe too if he proves himself at Dortmund.
Ancellotti would be a shit choice. Don't understand why he keeps getting mentioned.
The clubs in a transitional state and still requires building so why get a guy who is awful at that skill. He's a CL specialist with star studded sides but not a guy who can build great side from scratch especially at this stage of his career- doesn't have the stomach for a fight.
In an ideal world I would want Pep Guardiola. Other than that, you need a manager with history of success (a winner not a nearly man), plays great football, speaks great English and a strong history of developing young players and spends well (as we're never going to be a sugar daddy club). Also need a manager who wants to stay in it for the long haul as whist the modern trend is short term managers - I think historically United are at their best when we have a long term manager in place. Every club has its own philosophy and style and for me a long term manager playing great football with youngish players is when we are at our best as a club.
Based on that criteria for me Poch needs to win something with Spurs as until then, he's a nearly man for me. He needs to prove he's a winner. Klopp for me has a style of football which I love but he can also be very naive and as a result I question his winning mentality - but he definitely can create world class playing style even with average talents and good spending of money so that is a guaranteed thing you get with him.
Conte I really rate, decent style of play but seems a real winner, good man manager and just an all round solid managerial talent. Likeable guy IMO.
Jardim has won league with Monaco, but how good is his English? And EPL is a huge step up from French league.. he'd be a gamble.
Zidane very interesting choice tbh. Have no idea how he would do as despite his success he's an unknown quantity but he's a star in his own right and players would love to play under him. Am sure he wouldn't mind going toe to toe against Pep either or proving himself in the English league - which he didn't experience as a player. Great guy to include into the history of our club.
Simeone would be too similar to Jose and minus the familiarity with English game and language. Doesn't fit with the superstar galactico style of our club.
Tuchel- not a winner and not ready for a club like United.
Marco Silva very interesting talent but needs to prove himself with bigger clubs and win trophies to earn a shot at the big time.
Sarri - won feck all at the moment. So not a realistic candidate at the moment.
Giggs - hell no.
Overall to summarise I think Guardiola followed by Zidane and Conte would be be ideal choices. If Poch could win things then he'd be an awesome candidate too but right now I question his winning mentality and someone like Klopp who is very unpopular at the moment could be a massive hit here purely because of the style of football but highly unlikely that would ever happen.
My first choice would be Ancelotti.
And how about Rui Faria to take over from Mourinho? He looks the part.
And how about Rui Faria to take over from Mourinho? He looks the part.
Never should it ever be Ancelotti
Simeone no thanks. Let's play some attacking football for once with a top manager.
Yeah, finally give him enough rope. He's always going on about not getting the big jobs because he's not foreign (not because he plays hoofball).
Kevin's Keegan?
No, manager is not hit or miss. Same goes for buying players. If you scout a player/ manager then you decrease chances that he would be a miss.
Ok, you want that giggs take charge one of the biggest and richest clubs in the world ( by that i mean one of the most difficult jobs in football)?
Based on what? His style of play? Formation? Good transfer record? Winning record? Do you see now what i want to say? You want to hire someone basically only because he was great player.
No you're still not getting it. I gave you specific examples of why it's hit and miss. Giggs was under direct tutelage of one of the greatest managers of all time.
Luis Enrique is available...
a proven winner - not going down the Moyes road again.
People saying Giggs must have lost their marbles. He's sitting around waiting for a top job which is never happening. Go prove yourself.
Poch all the way.
Poch all the way.
Marcos Silva
Pochettino
Jardim
Pochettino
Jardim
Poll?
Moyes... He has unfinished business here: We're still in the premier league.
@groovyalbert
Yes, he can help us to bribe the referees. It will be like the good old days under Fergeh.
Yes, he can help us to bribe the referees. It will be like the good old days under Fergeh.
All taken in the space of 2 minutes
I'm convinced he's murdered someone in his lifetime
Sarri is a good shout, but by the time Jose leaves he could be well into his 60's. At any rate it's very far off to predict, wouldn't mind poch tbh.
By the time we get round to this Moyes will have led Scotland to a World Cup Final and... oh, wait I woke up