Good first half. Okaka and Doucoure dominating the central areas. Okaka really puts himself about, for forward player he drops into the middle a lot. Playing almost as a false nine.
Premier League weekend fixtures 11/12/13 August
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
It does look iffy but 'dems da rules'.
Liverpool's defending 
It´s quality in midfield and defense, but it´s also attacking patterns. Gundogan said Dortmund never practised attacking patterns and it tells with Liverpool. There are no developed movements, no incorporation of the fullbacks at all. Their whole attacking plan is to win the ball high up the pitch, when the opposing team is disorganised/undermanned and then finish quickly in the spaces. They are completely clueless how to break down deep-sitting teams and when your two best playmakers are missing with Coutinho and Lallana it only gets worse. I bet they´ll do well against the top teams again. Unfortunately it does not look like Klopp has a Plan B.
I wish we had signed Mane instead of Mkhitaryan.
unfortunately just VVD will not fix our defensive issues.
Carra v Redknapp
Aw I hate seeing Liverpool play shite 
It's not based on today. Think he's a cracking player in general.
Mane looks dangerous, Firminho invisible and Salah has been poor.
Christ, Redknapp's annoying
Come on Watford. This will make my weekend.
God how I missed good ol' EPL! Last night's game was a blast and this one is shaping up to be the same, love it.
It´s a BS rule, but I don´t understand why teams don´t exploit it more often. I´d just have my striker stand on the penalty spot the whole game, and work the "new phase of play"-rule all day long.
Funny when there were stories about getting Mane during LvG, majority were against it.
I don't think Watford have really been maintaining an artificially high level. I'd say this is probably about their norm. Liverpool are well below their norm, though.
Really? I think they look very cumbersome with their passing. Cleverly is the only one who looks somewhat assured.
Marco Silva is doing a good job in his EPL career so far it seems.
feck me Redknapp and Carragher had a bit of a falling out there. Trust Jamie to try to argue about the art of defending with Carragher ffs
Perhaps people were a bit hasty on here when they scoffed at the prospect of signing Mane two seasons ago when the rumors started near the end of that summer.
Let's believe in Perisic.
Let's believe in Perisic.
Every season Liverpool have a player that will drag them into being competitive, even when they're not playing well. Stevie G, Torres, Suarez, Coutinho... this season it looks like it will be Mane.
Yep. Maybe we were wrong.
It's down to the way you set it up. I agree with what Carragher was just saying, Liverpool push up way too much and you always leave your centre backs exposed.
Jamie is just like any other football fan, like us he knows feck all about it. Buy this or that one, thats how you fix issue where you place players wrongly in zonal marking to defend corners.
But you still need the winger to get to the byline and get the ball in, and when they do get there the opposition are naturally falling back anyway
Aw I hate seeing Arse do so badly
Aw I hate seeing Liverpool play shite
Why
Just the one relegation in his first 6 months.
I doubt it's that polarized, but no doubt the weaknesses are obvious.
Have a look at that picture of Liverpool's four defenders posted earlier in the thread.
Google the phrase "four clowns" and click the "images" tab.
Compare and laugh.
Google the phrase "four clowns" and click the "images" tab.
Compare and laugh.
Moeen.
Definitely. I really don't trust Mkhi at all, he's either going to be brilliant, or absolutely shite, no in between.
Until Mane gets in some bad form period then change again.
Yeah, it's definitely something that can be exploited.
Early days obviously, and it's only HT in this game also, but that 45 minutes summed up Liverpool, as much as Sane and Salah (not so far today) will cause other teams problems. they really need a new back five, most of their problems are self-inflicted. Moreno is truly awful, Lovren will always cost goals, Mignolet is average at best.
If they lose Coutinho they might struggle a bit, depending on who comes in to replace him if he leaves, they could also be doing with at least one decent holding midfielder who will protect that dodgy rearguard.
If they lose Coutinho they might struggle a bit, depending on who comes in to replace him if he leaves, they could also be doing with at least one decent holding midfielder who will protect that dodgy rearguard.
I sadly can see Liverpool turning this when Watford get more tired. Come on Watford! Funny that I think both Cleverley and Welbeck has played brilliant so far. Hopefully Hernandez will not join our ex players doing well on sunday.
I'd be inclined to argue there is no new phase of play, I don't super-mind as long as it's consistent though. I think they tend to go with the obvious, some of them would ferociously 'orrible to spot if they were strict about them.
I could swear there are dozens and dozens of more knowledgeable caftards on football than Redknapp
Banks of four defending now Watford.
Sucks for non Liverpool fans, not in terms of footballing ability