Richard Burgon is the shadow justice secretary.
There's a thing I preferred not knowing...
There's a thing I preferred not knowing...
Question Time & This Week
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Though in fairness to him, he's at least a lawyer, unlike the actual justice secretary.
Mensch's comeback to Farage and his sucking up to Putin was...surprisingly excellent.
Good Lord!
It's Truss who is the justice secretary, right? A loss to Blue Peter presenting.
Also @Ubik, I'm watching on delay, so a bit behind, but Self's slurring is getting worse...
Have you got to the bit where Farage impersonates a Middle Eastern man yet?
I don't recall such. I may have saved myself that moment by taking an opportune toilet break.
I just got to the Saudi bit, he's definitely had some gin.
Must have been Colony...
He does seem the type that would be happy to drink alone.
I think the word is 'willing'.
My bad. He'd do it ironically, of course, whilst thumbing through his thesaurus.That's the one.
Pete Docherty on This Week is fairly awkward.
What's he done?
Generally quite spaced out and seemingly wondering why he's there, then Neill made a comment about him playing at the Bataclan and he replied by mentioning how long it took to mop up the blood... Which Neill made worse, by laughing (saying he thought he was referring to fighting with other members of the Libertines, rather than the more obvious implication). The third segment rarely goes brilliantly.
Jesus feck that sounds more awkward than the weird handshake between Mensch and the Tory doctor.
Definitely was.
I upgraded Burgon on last night's performance, from completely incompetent moron to boring plank. Which is to say he was far from impressive in absolute terms, but compared to my expectations he did very well. He at least seemed to have some basic understanding of what he was talking about, even if he is hardly insightful.
The answer is always going to be heroin.
Yeah I was squirming. Neill grabs the wrong end of the stick but Doherty is in no condition to contribute to a discussion programme.
That last segment can often be a bit of a throw of the dice but you know Neill would have been on to his producers/researchers saying 'for feck's sake don't put me in that position again!'.
I hate how often both Question Time and This Week are willing to let people 'not in fit condition' participate.
As awkward as telling someone they can't take part would be, I think it's neglecting their duty of care that they let them on.
As awkward as telling someone they can't take part would be, I think it's neglecting their duty of care that they let them on.
It's not like there's a queue out front and they have to turn people away. They have to have booked these people and it doesn't exactly take a rocket scientist to work out that if you book Doherty or Self they're probably going to be hammered.
If there's another option of my son playing for Manchester United in gonna tell him to rip someone off in big business or go into politics.
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Same thing
Kinell, they've started this series as they finished the last, with a lineup that resembles my own personal hell.
Gisela Stuart, telling lies, what a surprise!
I'm not watching, what has she lied about?
Arron Banks being invited to appear on Question Time shows you just how much of a voice/platform money gives you.
That pre-referendum both sides fully agreed that a leave vote would mean us leaving the single market.
Yep totally, thankfully he's only used the opportunity to confirm that he's a Cnut.
I didn't watch but I can make a vague guess as to how it went.
Banks complained about the supposed subversion of the will of the British people, and said concerns to immigration aren't being listened to. He used the term Remoaners at least once.
The Tory MP, if Leave, said things are going well so far, and that scare stories have been debunked in the face of Carney's latest update. If Remain they were a bit more tentative but said the government are doing the best they can.
Then they talked about Trump, and Banks said again that it was the voice of real people/people who aren't being heard standing up. The Tory said Trump was 'concerning', but said the government would work alongside them however best they could.
An audience member said the British people aren't being listened to. He was either an old man or an edgy teenager. Maybe a middle-aged bloke from Hull.
Then they moved onto the NHS. A doctor with a decent anecdote said the current state of affairs was shameful. The Tory said they were doing everything they could and were fixing the problems of the Labour administration they replaced even though that happened about 34 years ago now. Banks blamed immigrants.
Meanwhile a left-wing comedian/actor/writer/pornstar turned up half-pissed, and snorted a line of coke onstage. Dimbleby joined him and Tony Blair ran on with a machete.
Banks complained about the supposed subversion of the will of the British people, and said concerns to immigration aren't being listened to. He used the term Remoaners at least once.
The Tory MP, if Leave, said things are going well so far, and that scare stories have been debunked in the face of Carney's latest update. If Remain they were a bit more tentative but said the government are doing the best they can.
Then they talked about Trump, and Banks said again that it was the voice of real people/people who aren't being heard standing up. The Tory said Trump was 'concerning', but said the government would work alongside them however best they could.
An audience member said the British people aren't being listened to. He was either an old man or an edgy teenager. Maybe a middle-aged bloke from Hull.
Then they moved onto the NHS. A doctor with a decent anecdote said the current state of affairs was shameful. The Tory said they were doing everything they could and were fixing the problems of the Labour administration they replaced even though that happened about 34 years ago now. Banks blamed immigrants.
Meanwhile a left-wing comedian/actor/writer/pornstar turned up half-pissed, and snorted a line of coke onstage. Dimbleby joined him and Tony Blair ran on with a machete.
Such could be very easily inferred from statements made by leading Remain figures: David Cameron, George Osborne, and Angela Eagle to name but three. Moreover, neither FoM nor ECJ jurisdiction can be overcome without our withdrawal.
In his defense at least he's actually been involved in politics, for better or for worse. It's the actors, musicians and TV personalities that irritate me most.
I largely agree with this, although it can't be denied the Leave side (Remainers too, but let's stick with Leave for the moment) were more than happy to obfuscate over a whole variety of issues during the campaign.
Boris Johnson who frankly was the only person who most leave voters listened to even stated in the days after the referendum that we would still have access to the single market without change.
Boris argued that we wouldn't be cut-off if we restricted FOM because of Gernan cars, if he said it once he said it a thousand times, nearly as offen as 'take back control' all it took was a good old bit of xenephobia and a pathetic slogan and boom, the masses went for it.
Is access the same as membership? And did Remain say that Leave intended to take us out of the single market?
I'm watching this on a delay, and I really did not expect Arron Banks to be in favour of radical redistribution of wealth
Not his own, presumably.
Unaltered access is equivalent to membership.
Remain said that we would be forced to leave the single market, that is true. However Leave repeatedly fudged the issue and in the main skirted round it, as they were fully aware that 7 months ago the vast majority of people who voted in the referendum probably didn't even know what the single market was, and certainly didn't understand the potential damage that could be done by leaving it.
Instead they majored on what they knew people didn't like, and that was foreigners coming to the UK. People can deny it to the cows come home but the reality is the leave vote was pretty much entirely driven by immigration and false promises on NHS spending.