Quique Flores on Premier League struggles in Europe.

The quality is also spread between a larger number of teams. Often Liverpool, Arsenal, City, United, Chelsea and Spurs are after the same players.
 
The funny thing is that English teams performances in Europe declined when all the top teams tried to play more 'Spanish' type football. If they had kept to the same style as Fergusons, Mourinhos and Benitez teams from around 2008 they would be much better of for it. We are not going to outplay some of these teams, we need to go back to building the team on great defences and counter attacking football.

I kind of agree. But you need the absolute best players for that to work.
 
In order to develop tactics to the point where you apply them fast enough, teams need plenty of work on the training ground as well as practice on the football pitch. England has too many games. Klopp and LvG have been pretty much complaining all the time about how they are only recovering and not doing much training. In game practice is also a bit of an impossibility. Whereas a Villarreal or Sevilla get to practice their strategies, combinations on the pitch where there is more time on the ball and less chaos, an English side cannot do that. The end result is teams that are not particularly good at these things because they haven't worked on them. I may have phrased it badly in the post you relied to but the point I was trying to make is not that measured overly tactical approaches do not work against English teams but that they are much harder for an English team to perfect and be good at which make the ones who try to implement them stuck in limbo. The successful managers therefor in the history of the PL like Fergie and Mourinho were the ones who realised that and focus on other areas without wasting too much time on something that will have little chance of taking off. On the other hand, they never experienced the same success in Europe and even when they did, it was through sitting them and defending for our lives rather than outplaying the best European teams. It is my view that what LvG tried to do over here was either admirably ambitious or naïve for example which is why I am very interested to see if Pep will manage to make City play the way we know he can make teams play.
I'd say the '99 champions were able to match anyone. Sure not in that final, but we had both our CMs suspended.
 
I'd say the '99 champions were able to match anyone. Sure not in that final, but we had both our CMs suspended.
The '99 side definitely played with that mentality at least. Our mindset was not that different from a Pep side in the sense that we tried to play our game regardless of where or when. I wouldn't go as far as claim it actually worked because if it did, we'd have been contesting more finals in that period. We looked short when played Real Madrid for example and looked equal at best when facing Barcelona or Bayern at the time who were nowhere near an unstoppable force. The best side at the time were probably Juventus and despite the comeback in 1999, I wouldn't say we were outplaying them. Admittedly Barcelona have set the standards pretty high but we aspire to be the best so I think we should be compared to the best.