Rafael

He was fantastic today. I was a touch concerned that he was going to drop Dean at one stage, though.
 
I honestly can't understand what must have been going through Dean's head when he gave that 2nd yellow.

Was it a dangerous challenge? No.
Was it cynical? No.
Were Spurs stopped from attacking while in great position? No.
Had he been given a warning for other fouls before hand? No.

Really feel for him, because both times he's been sent off he's received a harsh yellow card for the same thing while playing very well. He kept Bale quiet today, and was having a great game.
 
The first one was a clear yellow. The second one.. How often does that happen? Too often for it to be an accident every time :lol: Dunno..
 
I honestly can't understand what must have been going through Dean's head when he gave that 2nd yellow.

Was it a dangerous challenge? No.
Was it cynical? No.
Were Spurs stopped from attacking while in great position? No.
Had he been given a warning for other fouls before hand? No.

Really feel for him, because both times he's been sent off he's received a harsh yellow card for the same thing while playing very well. He kept Bale quiet today, and was having a great game.

it was cynical. and he was warned before in the first half for fouls. Playing fullback, this type of heel clipping is done often when you get caught up the field. Sure, it isn't a cynical studs up challenge, but it is one of the snide clips that certainly takes out a player that has acres of space ahead. I know damn well that rafael knew what he was doing. I was ok with him losing it at munich, but this time around there is no excuse. It wasn't an accident, and he should know better.
 
Great player.

However, we were lucky he wasn't sent of in the first half when he got a yellow card.
 
it was cynical. and he was warned before in the first half for fouls. Playing fullback, this type of heel clipping is done often when you get caught up the field. Sure, it isn't a cynical studs up challenge, but it is one of the snide clips that certainly takes out a player that has acres of space ahead. I know damn well that rafael knew what he was doing. I was ok with him losing it at munich, but this time around there is no excuse. It wasn't an accident, and he should know better.

Garbage from start to finish. He clearly pulled himself out as much as he could.
 
it was cynical. and he was warned before in the first half for fouls. Playing fullback, this type of heel clipping is done often when you get caught up the field. Sure, it isn't a cynical studs up challenge, but it is one of the snide clips that certainly takes out a player that has acres of space ahead. I know damn well that rafael knew what he was doing. I was ok with him losing it at munich, but this time around there is no excuse. It wasn't an accident, and he should know better.

Agree
 
I thought he was having a fantastic game before Mike Dean's brainfart.
 
Absolutely awesome today. Keys on Sky reckons he could have seen red for the first one - yes, if you want to give a red for getting the ball. Spastic.
 
it was cynical. and he was warned before in the first half for fouls. Playing fullback, this type of heel clipping is done often when you get caught up the field. Sure, it isn't a cynical studs up challenge, but it is one of the snide clips that certainly takes out a player that has acres of space ahead. I know damn well that rafael knew what he was doing. I was ok with him losing it at munich, but this time around there is no excuse. It wasn't an accident, and he should know better.

I am not sure if it was intentional or not but I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. However, I am willing to be more lenient in this case rather than against Bayern for the reason I feel that there was no reason to commit a blatant foul to stop the opposing player in that match.
 
Garbage from start to finish. He clearly pulled himself out as much as he could.

throwing your hands up isn't pulling out.

I will agree that both ribery and the spurs player went down like a sack of shit, however putting yourself in that position takes the power away from you and gives it to the opponent (who will go down easy 9 times out of 10).

I think he had a fantastic game. Top three performance of the night for me. However, to say rafael got done up because of an accident is patently false.
 
He pulled his entire body back, his legs were behind the line of his body, he pulled back from it as much as is physically possible. There was absolutely zero intent to clip the guys heels.
 
If that was a yellow card then Agger should be facing a war crimes tribunal for his "tackle" on Berbatov. Hysterically bad from that pea headed prick.

Dont like Rafael card waving though like he did in the first half, no need for it.
 
it was cynical. and he was warned before in the first half for fouls. Playing fullback, this type of heel clipping is done often when you get caught up the field. Sure, it isn't a cynical studs up challenge, but it is one of the snide clips that certainly takes out a player that has acres of space ahead. I know damn well that rafael knew what he was doing. I was ok with him losing it at munich, but this time around there is no excuse. It wasn't an accident, and he should know better.

Sorry I disagree entirely. A cynical foul would have been if he had intentionally brought him down, which in no way happened here. He slowed up and tried to avoid him, there was a collision. No cynicism there. He'd have to be out of his mind to intentionally foul him there, in a position of the field that's not exactly dangerous.

Free kick, yes, because he's brought him down. No yellow card.
 
He doesnt know what to do once he reaches the opposite 18 yard box...
Once he made a mazy run.. beat Gallas too i think...Then instead of scrossing to Berba at the post.. he made a weak pass to Rooney and we lost the ball.....
With experience that will come... However what a player we have..
 
I dunno, having played football, getting your feet tangled like that is common and hard to pull out of. Definite foul, but a yellow was harsh IMO. First yellow might not be given by some refs.
 
Offensively class, defensively poor.

Not even defensively poor. Sure there were 3 or 4 crosses where in a perfect world he'd have done better in his attempt to stop them, but he still made lots of good tackles and interceptions. And save for the best few fullbacks in the world, in a couple of performances per season, almost no fullbacks keep the crosses coming in to 1 or 2.
 
Sorry I disagree entirely. A cynical foul would have been if he had intentionally brought him down, which in no way happened here. He slowed up and tried to avoid him, there was a collision. No cynicism there. He'd have to be out of his mind to intentionally foul him there, in a position of the field that's not exactly dangerous.

Free kick, yes, because he's brought him down. No yellow card.

You overrate Rafael's intelligence.
 
He doesnt know what to do once he reaches the opposite 18 yard box...
Once he made a mazy run.. beat Gallas too i think...Then instead of scrossing to Berba at the post.. he made a weak pass to Rooney and we lost the ball.....
With experience that will come... However what a player we have..

None of our players did. In fact it could be argued that he had more of a clue what to do coming up to the opponents penalty area than any of our other players today.
 
He did himself no favours with the whole 'I'm gonna run as far away from the ref as possible' act after the first foul. From then on you could sense Dean was going to send him off.
 
Feel sorry for the lad. Very soft sending off, was having a great game up till then I thought.
 
Rafael got in more dangerous situations than Bale in the game. Shame he lacked composure with his final ball.
 
Rafael got in more dangerous situations than Bale in the game. Shame he lacked composure with his final ball.

That played a part for sure, but at the same time he wasn't exactly being helped out by his team mates giving him options, was he?