RAWK goes into Meltdown 2010/2011

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Yeh, that was shocking, especially after they went to all the trouble of paying Webb to send Adebayor off for absolutely nothing. I think that may well go down as the worst decision I've ever seen at a football ground in the flesh.
 
If you ask me, the main failure(it's all relative, 2nd was hardly a failure) was the lack of support striker in the second half of the season. That might have turned a couple of draws into wins, and that's all you would have needed. All very easy in hindsight though. The press conference had very little to do with it - it's just a theory run by SKY and associated media which has become so widespread it's almost deemed as fact.

Largely agree. Buying Keane was odd but selling him and not replacing him was worse. He would have been useful.

But events conspired that season. We beat Chelsea and Utd home and away and we won't do that again for many seasons. We also had an inordinate amount of players sent off against us.

Saying that, our finish to that season was spectacular and maybe I agree with Mancs for once. Maybe we were the best team and maybe we did deserve to win it.
 
I think it was largely due to a failure to be aggressive enough. At Arsenal Liverpool got level and we had a man sent off - they had 30 mins to turn a point into 3 but settled for a draw.

And Rafa's cautious tactics of course.
 
Ironically, for that game at the Emirates, Rafa was ill, and he wasn't even on the bench. Who knows what might have happened?

Don't remember that. Remember being frustrated at Benitez at the time. Maybe it was by proxy.

But his caution cost us I think.
 
Saying that, our finish to that season was spectacular and maybe I agree with Mancs for once. Maybe we were the best team and maybe we did deserve to win it.
The strangest thing of that season was that we never really got into top gear and completely outplayed sides, like prior seasons. There was always the feeling that there was more from us going forward that never materialised during the season. Whereas you lot dished out a few thrashings and ended up scoring 9 more goals than us.
 
It's odd for me.

Liverpool would have walked the league had it not been for a press conference. So, for the Mancs bluster, they are kind of saying Benitez built a bloody good side.

But he's still rubbish.

I wish Hodgson was as rubbish as Benitez was that season.

You've made up this straw man argument because you feel more comfortable arguing against it.

You didn't lose the league solely because of a press conference, it was merely a contributing factor. Others being Rafa's shit tactics and questionable transfers (e.g. Keane).
 
You've made up this straw man argument because you feel more comfortable arguing against it.

Wrong.

This bloke brought it up:

He managed to blow a winning position in the league when you should have cakewalked home, largely due to an ill timed, subjective (i.e. containing no facts despite claims to the contrary) and unprovoked attack on the greatest manager in the country, when he should have been focussed on beating Stoke and consolidating his position at the top of the table.

You thought it a possibility:

Possibly.

I mocked it absurdness:

Those pesky press conferences. Damn them.

And argued for more sensible events which influenced that season's table:

But events conspired that season. We beat Chelsea and Utd home and away and we won't do that again for many seasons. We also had an inordinate amount of players sent off against us.

Saying that, our finish to that season was spectacular and maybe I agree with Mancs for once. Maybe we were the best team and maybe we did deserve to win it.

Bingo.
 
Largely agree. Buying Keane was odd but selling him and not replacing him was worse. He would have been useful.

But events conspired that season. We beat Chelsea and Utd home and away and we won't do that again for many seasons. We also had an inordinate amount of players sent off against us.

Saying that, our finish to that season was spectacular and maybe I agree with Mancs for once. Maybe we were the best team and maybe we did deserve to win it.

Was a weird season for sure. You were the best team after the defeat to Boro. But we have an incredible resilience about us. Just ask Keegan. Whereas we go hell for leather and eek out wins and draws when they aren't deserved Rafa was more than happy with a number of 0-0s which ultimately cost you.

Ultimately the team with the most points deserves to win so we were more than deserved winners. Incredibly we scored more points than 06-07 and 07-08 when we by far were better as a team.
 
Was a weird season for sure. You were the best team after the defeat to Boro. But we have an incredible resilience about us. Just ask Keegan. Whereas we go hell for leather and eek out wins and draws when they aren't deserved Rafa was more than happy with a number of 0-0s which ultimately cost you.

Ultimately the team with the most points deserves to win so we were more than deserved winners. Incredibly we scored more points than 06-07 and 07-08 when we by far were better as a team.

Agree to the very word there, Ole.
 
The run that cost you the league followed the daft attack on Fergie that made him a laughing stock amongst other managers and opposing fans.

At that point you were looking good for number 19.

I'm fecking made up that you chucked it down the drain and let us back in from a position I don't think we'd have surrendered.

I never said you had a super great team, but you were ahead and taking advantage of a poor league that season.
 
At that point you were looking good for number 19.

The league title is not normally decided in January, Gary.

That aside, Benitez will undoubtedly be chuffed by your little vote of confidence in his time of need.
 
I personally think Liverpool significantly overperformed that season, a lot of factors came together at once for them and they played above themselves, particularly on the home straight. It's easy to forget that United would have been 11 points clear if they had won at Old Trafford despite having played somewhat disappointingly for large chunks of the season. Rafa still could and should have done more though, and blew the only chance that team was likely to ever get at the league. Also people tend to forget that it was never genuinely a 2 horse race that season after late Jan (I think Liverpool had something like 5 drawn games out of 6 in January or something ridiculous) where United made about 10 points on them to turn a deficit into a big lead, and their end of season finish flattered to deceive somewhat.
 
That season I was worried only once , but I had no doubt that we're going to finish ahead, simply due to the sheer resilience, quiet up, and do the job like we always do in the past.

Rafa's digging his own demise with that rant, you say that when you win the league, but instead he took a gamble with messing with SAF's mind... it was us vs chelsea and them vs stoke IIRC? And the draws against the stokes might have just been another draws and us winning is just another win, but because of the said FATCH previously, it spirals into a big snowball and have the knock on effect.

I don't think deep inside Rafa ever recover from that blunder, he might not say it, but he sure looks stupid to himself time and time again, and perhaps that creates a sense of stubborness in a destructive way.
 
I sympathise with RAWK on this to be fair. That must be the 100th successive year Blackburn have gone to Old Trafford and been ferociously shite. That said, from all accounts it was a magnificent United performance . Andy@Allerton is suggesting it's a fix as usual. He also mentioned his wife. She must have a lot to contend with when he's at home, he's so bitter it's ridiculous.
 
Apparently Allardyce did us his "usual" favour and made his team bend over. You know, just like the last time we played them, when we drew 0-0 and a win would have taken us top :rolleyes:

Andy@Allerton is suggesting it's a fix as usual. He also mentioned his wife. She must have a lot to contend with when he's at home, he's so bitter it's ridiculous.

His wife probably left him years ago, he just hasn't noticed yet because he's too obsessed with us and conspiracies.
 
That must be the 100th successive year Blackburn have gone to Old Trafford and been ferociously shite.
I think they usually put up a decent fight. They were unbelievably bad when be beat them 5-3 in the league cup a couple of years ago, though.
 
Just by doing a bit of digging, I saw they won in 2005 at OT too. Maybe I'm being harsh on them.

Yeah. The talk on RAWK is about Allardyce doing us a favor as always. But truth is they give is more of a game than most teams at OT. And we always seem to drop points at Ewood. Tough place to go for us.
 
What's never explained is how Fergie/United have the cash and power to bribe all these managers, players and refs into letting us win all the time, and then keep quiet about it for the rest of their lives. Debt-ridden UTD can do that, apparently, but Chelsea, whose owner is a multi-billionaire, and City, whose owners hold 10% of the world's fossil fuels, can't.
 
Sky were created by United in 1992 and therefore control everything and make it so that United win all the time. Even Dj2 and Abramovich / Mourinho were in on it to throw a couple of red herrings out every now and then and keep the conspiracy hidden
 
What's MASH?

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I was just reading that. Apparently fergie is responsible for this as well. :lol:

Why is this guy allowed to referee Liverpool games ? Since Mike Riley's retirement he has become the most inept referee in the League, and is Alex Ferguson's new poodle.
Some time ago George Graham asked that a certain referee be taken off Arsenal games, and he got his wish. He is just a terrible, terrible referee.
 
I presume the complaints have already begun about united being given a home tie against some sack of shite?
 
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