Really? He seemed to be more confused than anguished for the entire match.
All this after a 1-0 defeat. Imagine the outpouring of joy when they actually manage to secure a 0-0 hard fought draw.
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Really? He seemed to be more confused than anguished for the entire match.
All this after a 1-0 defeat. Imagine the outpouring of joy when they actually manage to secure a 0-0 hard fought draw.
"MBE - Manc of the Busby Era"? What is that even supposed to mean? Someone on Wikipedia changed it to Manyoo's Best Employee" which at least makes sense, even though it is shite.
Are they capable of posting without mentioning dignity and humility?
It's not actually humble or dignified to bang on the whole time about how humble and dignified you are...
It's not actually humble or dignified to bang on the whole time about how humble and dignified you are...
This is honestly one of the worst posts I've read on here.
Liverpool losing is a good thing?
Ferguson upset because he beat the manager who has come back?
12 men against 10?
Ecstatic over a loss and exit from the FA Cup? A loss is a trophy?!
Oh how the mighty have fallen.
Its On!!!
I mean. You lost the game FFS.
Is that the same moron who did the BBC News site thing?
What the hell is wrong with these "people?"
Newcastle syndrome has started to spread like wildfire across Liverpool.
Dalglish is the perfect man for it as well, because the demand for success, or at least consistency will increase, but they won't want to see the back of him either after that doesn't materialise, so I imagine city-wide confusion to sink in and settle for the next year or so.
Dalglish is the perfect man for it as well, because the demand for success, or at least consistency will increase, but they won't want to see the back of him either after that doesn't materialise, so I imagine city-wide confusion to sink in and settle for the next year or so.
they cannot beat us...so they are 'dignified' and 'humble'.
otherwise they would be themselves....right cnuts.
Watch the shawcross tackle on Ramsey, then the Gerrard one on Carrick. There is so little difference and nobody argues that Shawcross didnt deserve a red card.
Yeah Shawcross COULD have avoided red there. Poor by the ref.
The blue half of Liverpool must be pissing themselves laughing at it all.
The blue half would have actually given us more than a practice match today.
"First is first, second is nowhere and twelfth is pathetic"
Bill Shankly & Plan M
Bill Shankly & Plan M
You had 10?
Think you're giving yourselves a bit too much credit. I counted 1 player - Reina.
As for the rest of your post, are you mentally ill?
YES this is from RAWK 
I find it abit sad how we(as in fans on here) seem to want to blame the ref everyweek. I thought Howard Webb had a "OK" game, and didn't favour either side. Fact is Berbatov dived & conned the ref, soon as i seen it i thought penelty, then when you see it from another angle looks like a dive. I don't blame him for giving it, the fault should lay with Berbatov who cheated.
It was also a red card, even if it wasn't a "certain red" it was a downright stupid tackle which deserved the red for being stupid to tackle like that. Was no need for a 2 footed challenge, why even risk it, not like it was 85th minute either. The blame lays at Gerrards feet imo.
Other than that i don't see nothing wrong with Webb, what i did see wrong was a team who passed the ball well but had zero threat up front. I seen a Torres who couldn't give a crap, and unless it was offered to him on a plate he didn't want to work for the team or work to create openings.
Nice side who pass ball round, but zero zero threat. Man Utd was in 2nd gear all 2nd half.
Gerrard should be fined, Torres should be made to choose what he wants, either stay and fight or sell now and use the money on players who want to be here. What is certain unless we get a striker or two, nothing will change. Yes the performance was better as we was more offensive, but it looked betetr as under Roy we was so bad, at end of day it's still a very poor side, with average players, no attacking threat and a team that needs alot of new faces in it.
The poster got proper slatted for this
I find it abit sad how we(as in fans on here) seem to want to blame the ref everyweek. I thought Howard Webb had a "OK" game, and didn't favour either side. Fact is Berbatov dived & conned the ref, soon as i seen it i thought penelty, then when you see it from another angle looks like a dive. I don't blame him for giving it, the fault should lay with Berbatov who cheated.
It was also a red card, even if it wasn't a "certain red" it was a downright stupid tackle which deserved the red for being stupid to tackle like that. Was no need for a 2 footed challenge, why even risk it, not like it was 85th minute either. The blame lays at Gerrards feet imo.
Other than that i don't see nothing wrong with Webb, what i did see wrong was a team who passed the ball well but had zero threat up front. I seen a Torres who couldn't give a crap, and unless it was offered to him on a plate he didn't want to work for the team or work to create openings.
Nice side who pass ball round, but zero zero threat. Man Utd was in 2nd gear all 2nd half.
Gerrard should be fined, Torres should be made to choose what he wants, either stay and fight or sell now and use the money on players who want to be here. What is certain unless we get a striker or two, nothing will change. Yes the performance was better as we was more offensive, but it looked betetr as under Roy we was so bad, at end of day it's still a very poor side, with average players, no attacking threat and a team that needs alot of new faces in it.
The poster got proper slatted for this
Are you a woman???? You certainly remind me of one entering conversations about football when you clearly don't understand the rules of the game.
I think RAWK should be the subject of a psychological study.They have to be under mass hypnosis
Well he's a gooner, so same thing really.
Who actually has a profile on RAWK? Somebody really ought to give this lad a link to one of the other (ie. sane) Liverpool forums before he gets as mindwarped as the rest of the RAWK legion.YES this is from RAWK
I find it abit sad how we(as in fans on here) seem to want to blame the ref everyweek. I thought Howard Webb had a "OK" game, and didn't favour either side. Fact is Berbatov dived & conned the ref, soon as i seen it i thought penelty, then when you see it from another angle looks like a dive. I don't blame him for giving it, the fault should lay with Berbatov who cheated.
It was also a red card, even if it wasn't a "certain red" it was a downright stupid tackle which deserved the red for being stupid to tackle like that. Was no need for a 2 footed challenge, why even risk it, not like it was 85th minute either. The blame lays at Gerrards feet imo.
Other than that i don't see nothing wrong with Webb, what i did see wrong was a team who passed the ball well but had zero threat up front. I seen a Torres who couldn't give a crap, and unless it was offered to him on a plate he didn't want to work for the team or work to create openings.
Nice side who pass ball round, but zero zero threat. Man Utd was in 2nd gear all 2nd half.
Gerrard should be fined, Torres should be made to choose what he wants, either stay and fight or sell now and use the money on players who want to be here. What is certain unless we get a striker or two, nothing will change. Yes the performance was better as we was more offensive, but it looked betetr as under Roy we was so bad, at end of day it's still a very poor side, with average players, no attacking threat and a team that needs alot of new faces in it.
The poster got proper slatted for this
YES this is from RAWK
I find it abit sad how we(as in fans on here) seem to want to blame the ref everyweek. I thought Howard Webb had a "OK" game, and didn't favour either side. Fact is Berbatov dived & conned the ref, soon as i seen it i thought penelty, then when you see it from another angle looks like a dive. I don't blame him for giving it, the fault should lay with Berbatov who cheated.
It was also a red card, even if it wasn't a "certain red" it was a downright stupid tackle which deserved the red for being stupid to tackle like that. Was no need for a 2 footed challenge, why even risk it, not like it was 85th minute either. The blame lays at Gerrards feet imo.
Other than that i don't see nothing wrong with Webb, what i did see wrong was a team who passed the ball well but had zero threat up front. I seen a Torres who couldn't give a crap, and unless it was offered to him on a plate he didn't want to work for the team or work to create openings.
Nice side who pass ball round, but zero zero threat. Man Utd was in 2nd gear all 2nd half.
Gerrard should be fined, Torres should be made to choose what he wants, either stay and fight or sell now and use the money on players who want to be here. What is certain unless we get a striker or two, nothing will change. Yes the performance was better as we was more offensive, but it looked betetr as under Roy we was so bad, at end of day it's still a very poor side, with average players, no attacking threat and a team that needs alot of new faces in it.
The poster got proper slatted for this
Poor bloke will be banned soon.
Whenever I've looked on there there have usually been a few sane heads telling all the idiots to get a grip
For instance, there are a fair few who clearly consider Andy@Allerton insane
For instance, there are a fair few who clearly consider Andy@Allerton insane
oh dear and he is the real level of poster on RAWK.
Not been back home too long after taking ages to get out of that shithole (not just the stadium, the city as well) and then stopped off for a drink and more importantly a chippy.
Ive not read anyone else's views yet but heres what I thought.
I was so happy to watch a Liverpool team managed by Kenny Dalglish. Already I have got my hunger back from the club which had been drained following hicks/gillette and sadly, Hodgson. (not that i would have Roy anywhere near the yank twats, but it has been awful this season so far).
Just looking at the Liverpool team, it looked and felt like supporting Liverpool again. Im sure plenty of people have a good account of the match already, but for me, you could see the difference ALREADY - Kenny has only been with the team for about 12 hours but you could just tell - they had a new hunger and desire - the fans were all 100% together - it coudnt have been more different from blackburn. We looked to play some good stuff and Im sure we are going to see a lot better from now til May.
Oh and we were cheated, out of a replay at least. Ive obviously not seen either incident again yet BUT - i don't need a replay to tell me there was no contact or foul by Agger. That was never never never a penalty - Howard Webb is a cheat - and he should be exposed as a cheat. Hes no better than that ref for Inter 1965, for me. Also im fairly convinced it should never have been a red card for Gerrard. At the very least - a booking for both players - they both went in hard for a fair challenge - AGAIN webb cheated us on that. I don't reckon my mind will be changed by seeing a replay either.
Really really good attacking changes by Kenny as well - i was made up and can't speak properly at the moment cos my voice is gone.
Its so refreshing to have him back. We'll Never Walk Alone with Dalglish as Liverpool manager - FACT.
Reading there post match thread , really has made me laugh on a boring night at work
Not been back home too long after taking ages to get out of that shithole (not just the stadium, the city as well) and then stopped off for a drink and more importantly a chippy.
Ive not read anyone else's views yet but heres what I thought.
I was so happy to watch a Liverpool team managed by Kenny Dalglish. Already I have got my hunger back from the club which had been drained following hicks/gillette and sadly, Hodgson. (not that i would have Roy anywhere near the yank twats, but it has been awful this season so far).
Just looking at the Liverpool team, it looked and felt like supporting Liverpool again. Im sure plenty of people have a good account of the match already, but for me, you could see the difference ALREADY - Kenny has only been with the team for about 12 hours but you could just tell - they had a new hunger and desire - the fans were all 100% together - it coudnt have been more different from blackburn. We looked to play some good stuff and Im sure we are going to see a lot better from now til May.
Oh and we were cheated, out of a replay at least. Ive obviously not seen either incident again yet BUT - i don't need a replay to tell me there was no contact or foul by Agger. That was never never never a penalty - Howard Webb is a cheat - and he should be exposed as a cheat. Hes no better than that ref for Inter 1965, for me. Also im fairly convinced it should never have been a red card for Gerrard. At the very least - a booking for both players - they both went in hard for a fair challenge - AGAIN webb cheated us on that. I don't reckon my mind will be changed by seeing a replay either.
Really really good attacking changes by Kenny as well - i was made up and can't speak properly at the moment cos my voice is gone.
Its so refreshing to have him back. We'll Never Walk Alone with Dalglish as Liverpool manager - FACT.
Reading there post match thread , really has made me laugh on a boring night at work
YES this is from RAWK
I find it abit sad how we(as in fans on here) seem to want to blame the ref everyweek. I thought Howard Webb had a "OK" game, and didn't favour either side. Fact is Berbatov dived & conned the ref, soon as i seen it i thought penelty, then when you see it from another angle looks like a dive. I don't blame him for giving it, the fault should lay with Berbatov who cheated.
It was also a red card, even if it wasn't a "certain red" it was a downright stupid tackle which deserved the red for being stupid to tackle like that. Was no need for a 2 footed challenge, why even risk it, not like it was 85th minute either. The blame lays at Gerrards feet imo.
Other than that i don't see nothing wrong with Webb, what i did see wrong was a team who passed the ball well but had zero threat up front. I seen a Torres who couldn't give a crap, and unless it was offered to him on a plate he didn't want to work for the team or work to create openings.
Nice side who pass ball round, but zero zero threat. Man Utd was in 2nd gear all 2nd half.
Gerrard should be fined, Torres should be made to choose what he wants, either stay and fight or sell now and use the money on players who want to be here. What is certain unless we get a striker or two, nothing will change. Yes the performance was better as we was more offensive, but it looked betetr as under Roy we was so bad, at end of day it's still a very poor side, with average players, no attacking threat and a team that needs alot of new faces in it.
The poster got proper slatted for this
I wonder if we can do a poster exchange? They can have Dumpstar and alastair and we can have this guy.
A booking for both players
What are they on? are they saying Carrick should have been booked for luckily not having his career ended by Gerrard.
Sexism for the win.
Well, they are a big club too, and one where the supporters could actually use the excuse that they haven't had a lot of financial investment, but then their chairman/owner at least knows what the limits are. Everton are a big club, but simply because they have never had a consecutive 10-15 year period right at the top of the game the Liverpool FC supporters have always derided them.
Liverpool supporters often like to have a pop at younger United supporters in that in their imagination we are only supported by people that became interested in the club in the early 90s when it started doing well again. You could throw the same thing back at them in that they only became interested when Shankley brought success. It's a similar position, they had their long period of dominance, and we have had ours under SAF - without both of those periods there would be no arguing over the numbers of 18 and 19, 5 and 3, but the majority of the success of both clubs has been in those two periods - Shankley to Dalglish and Ferguson. However, neither of those periods give either club the god given right to continue being at the top of the game as a right.
That's what's hilarious about the whole thing IMO, in the entire history of association football, they had a golden period, yet that golden period is a blip in the greater scheme of things, yet for them, it's a right. The same thing will happen to us with supporters that grew up in our golden era when we also inevitably trip up and fail. Supporters that never remember or are never told about the darker days.
I always thought in the early 2000s that the top clubs would never slide down, I always thought that there was simply too much money at the top end of the game to allow that to happen, but we are seeing it happen, and it could happen to us also. Supporters generally need to get a grip and realise that just because you had a golden era or two, no matter how much money you have available, nor how big a name you supposedly have, it's no guarantee of continued success, and it certainly isn't a right.
I know, but you didn't put it in quote tags, so it shows up under your name.
Don't worry, no one thinks it was you.
Tried that with my girlfriend. Not a good idea.
Yes. They actually can
though it could not get any worse over there but them this is posted
Seems like it also SKY's fault too
What they, or someone should do is not specifically investigate Webb but to investigate bias in reffing decisions full stop. It's perfectly possible to research it and get proper hard data.
Because while it's fair to say that EVERY club thinks the media and refs hate them, and while I think it's also fair to say that the bigger the club, (or rather the bigger the club's rep and home support) the more decisions go it's way at home, and I also think it's fair to say that high profile English players also get favoured by refs, I also think it's telling that basically every club see things as biased towards Man Utd. Spurs fans, Arsenal fans, Wolves fans - sure they'll moan about their own club, and probably certain clubs and rival clubs, but EVERYONE sees an issue with Man Utd.
For example, I think it's telling that when Rafa, who basically thanks to the media is generally mocked and seen as a total clown by the vast majority of general fans (as far as I can tell) actually stood up and attacked Fungus, that's also the ONE time I can remember fans in general being in complete agreement with him and generally saying stuff like 'good on him' etc etc.
I'll even go further than that.
Given the money in the game, given that Sky are LEGALLY REQUIRED to maximise their profits, and given that Man Utd are the most popular club domestically and probably even more importantly worldwide, it would in fact be naive to think that there's no bias of any kind in their favour.
It is absolutely 100% in Sky's commercial interest for Man Utd to be successful, for their rep to be played up, for that club to be glorified and the manager and players feted and hyped, and for their stars to be on the pitch as often as possible. Man Utd sell more subscriptions, set top boxes, HD upgrades and fecking 3d glasses than any other club in England. Looking at it cold heartedly, if Sky weren't using Man Utd as a means by which to maximise profits then their execs and shareholders should be asking questions.
It's not all down to Sky by any means, but it also isn't a pure coincidence that the Man Utd years have also been the Sky years. It also isn't a coincidence, or just down to tactics alone (though that is probably the main reason) that Utd have been relatively shit on the continental stage, considering the number of chances they've had and the amount of cash they've thrown at the problem.
Seems like it also SKY's fault too
What they, or someone should do is not specifically investigate Webb but to investigate bias in reffing decisions full stop. It's perfectly possible to research it and get proper hard data.
Because while it's fair to say that EVERY club thinks the media and refs hate them, and while I think it's also fair to say that the bigger the club, (or rather the bigger the club's rep and home support) the more decisions go it's way at home, and I also think it's fair to say that high profile English players also get favoured by refs, I also think it's telling that basically every club see things as biased towards Man Utd. Spurs fans, Arsenal fans, Wolves fans - sure they'll moan about their own club, and probably certain clubs and rival clubs, but EVERYONE sees an issue with Man Utd.
For example, I think it's telling that when Rafa, who basically thanks to the media is generally mocked and seen as a total clown by the vast majority of general fans (as far as I can tell) actually stood up and attacked Fungus, that's also the ONE time I can remember fans in general being in complete agreement with him and generally saying stuff like 'good on him' etc etc.
I'll even go further than that.
Given the money in the game, given that Sky are LEGALLY REQUIRED to maximise their profits, and given that Man Utd are the most popular club domestically and probably even more importantly worldwide, it would in fact be naive to think that there's no bias of any kind in their favour.
It is absolutely 100% in Sky's commercial interest for Man Utd to be successful, for their rep to be played up, for that club to be glorified and the manager and players feted and hyped, and for their stars to be on the pitch as often as possible. Man Utd sell more subscriptions, set top boxes, HD upgrades and fecking 3d glasses than any other club in England. Looking at it cold heartedly, if Sky weren't using Man Utd as a means by which to maximise profits then their execs and shareholders should be asking questions.
It's not all down to Sky by any means, but it also isn't a pure coincidence that the Man Utd years have also been the Sky years. It also isn't a coincidence, or just down to tactics alone (though that is probably the main reason) that Utd have been relatively shit on the continental stage, considering the number of chances they've had and the amount of cash they've thrown at the problem.
You said it was an appalling performance and you'd be fuming if you were a Liverpool fan.
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