Gillespie said:
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Successful said:
Fowler lost alot due to injury. Not because of any bullshit about drug use and "attitude". He had a couple of bad injurys and never fully recovered. Simple as that.
In fairness Rooney like alot of players at his age is going through a bad spell but lets be honest. His whole season so far has been dissapointing apart from the odd spell here and there.
He has alot to do to save his season (by the standards he has already set of course).
I imagine he'll come back firing on all cylinders next season but this one might just have to be average or above rather than exceptional. Its gona happen from time to time.
dont bother..hes a arse fan and a very bad wumsteerterry50 said:
KFC2IDIE said:
I remember a few years ago when Gerrard went through a bad patch. He looked woeful. Like he'd forgotten how to kick a football. He came back a better player after that.
The Hairdryer said:
Gerrards had a couple of bad spells but usually pulled it and had a very good season. Even this one has been a slow start but he's improving.
I see the makings of a "where will the goals come from" thread here.
You never really know with a young player. You can't always take it for granted that a player will 'go on to be one of the best in the world', doesn't always work like that, players with arguably more ability than Rooney haven't lived up to it for 10 years, although injuries or the wrong transfer often contribute.
With Rooney, i think he's got the right manager. The only thing is perhaps becoming injury prone, that often fecks promising players up when they come at the wrong stage of their career.
With Rooney, i won't be suprised if he makes it to be one of the best players of the decade, or if he has lost it by 26, that wouldn't suprise me if it happened to any top young player to be honest. It's happened to loads of young players, it's not even a question of ability really. A number of factors.
With Rooney, i think he's got the right manager. The only thing is perhaps becoming injury prone, that often fecks promising players up when they come at the wrong stage of their career.
With Rooney, i won't be suprised if he makes it to be one of the best players of the decade, or if he has lost it by 26, that wouldn't suprise me if it happened to any top young player to be honest. It's happened to loads of young players, it's not even a question of ability really. A number of factors.
And its not exactly like he's having a 'terrible' season. He's scored 8 goals in the prem already for crying out loud. His work rate has been brilliant, you can see him chasing lost causes all the time, the will and the spirit has always been there. So WTF are you talking about?? Can't expect him to have a sensational game every time around. WUM.
I do not rate rooney as highly as some on here. But I still think this thread is gay and absolute crap. 
The_Red_Hope said:
But you forgot to mention that he had 800 chances. He's been a very poor finisher at best. His shot/goal ratio has been always poor. I have yet to be convinced that he is a natural goal scorer.
His tactical awareness is another problem. He never plays well in 4-3-3, which seriously restricts SAF's tactical option. I can't see why Rooney can't be an excellent wing forward in 4-3-3, but he repeatedly fails to perform well.
He has a long way to go, to say the least. If a 28 year old, non-British player had played like Rooney did, there must have been 37 threads which call for immediate sale of that player.
kanchelskis14 said:
Name those players please
I have noted the names of the Rooney doubters in this thread, and I'm gunna rub your faces in shit when he produces his sensation best form again, and makes you all look like proper gimps.
Labelling Rooney as a player in decline is really stupid. However i do agree that he had been playing shite for the last 5-6 games. He would do well with a time off for a holiday or something, come back fully recharged and lead us to glory on all fronts. His touch had been very heavy, looks slow, disinterested, and finishing had been pissed poor. Give the young lad a rest, i say..
he is only 20 year old and you are talking about decline.
Rooney hasn't peaked yet. You will hear about him pretty much everyday for the next 10 years.
Rooney hasn't peaked yet. You will hear about him pretty much everyday for the next 10 years.
golden_blunder said:
WUM? Bollox I'm not surprised to get the usual kneejerk reaction from you whenever i make a point you disagree with.
Listen,I am making a serious point here.I believe Rooney's recent poor performances (as most on here would concede) are not just a passing phase but symptomatic of the fact that his physique is not that of a footballer now that he has physically matured.
Because of his brutish build he lacks the stamina required to get through a 90 minute game in the Premiership and this has become more apparent.Mark my words he will struggle with weight and fitness as he gets older.
Ok, we should all be slitting our wrists now that clairvoyant Gill has spoken.
Wolverine said:
I wouldn't recommend it
You should be our new fitness coach. Send your comments over to Valter Di Salvo. Damn that's over 20 million quid down the gutter then.
If you think Wayne Rooney is a player that's been this good at a young age just because of his muscles... He's the best forward in the country and he's been so for the past 3 years.
Rooney has been nowhere near top of the goalscoring charts in any year. Nor is he prolific or uniquely creative. So how has he been the best. Henry has been the best. Rooney has too many serious goal droughts and at times never looks likely to score. His failure to score for MU may prove costly in the title race. Have you considered that yet?
Rooney has been nowhere near top of the goalscoring charts in any year. Nor is he prolific or uniquely creative. So how has he been the best. Henry has been the best. Rooney has too many serious goal droughts and at times never looks likely to score. His failure to score for MU may prove costly in the title race. Have you considered that yet?
Mithun said:
We should do a like-for-like swap with Sevilla; Rooney to them, Kanoute to us.
KFC2IDIE said:
I reckon a lot of it was his natural physique. He was never a natural athlete. Same is true of Gascoigne, and Rooney. It can be countered with the right management, and the right attitude, but it makes it harder for the player.
I think Rooney will be alright.
Torres or Huntelaar will increase places upfront at MU. Then SAF will have to decide whether to play an off form rooney.
Mithun said:
Will we be able to play with 12 players if they were bought?
Rooney will play, whoever may or may not come in. Because he is a superb footballer.
Rooney's whole season has not been disappointing. He directly contributes to goals in nearly every match! He's not on fire like Ronaldo, and not playing quite as well as last year (though he's closer than some people think), but he's so involved in everything we do.
It's the usual crap with English players. Overhyped? Yes. Expectations way too high as a result? Yes. Still a great player, though, suffering a minor dip in form.
He also does not lack stamina. Despite his body shape, he's quick as you like, strong and lasts the distance, covering more miles per game than most midfielders. His pitch coverage is astonishing.
It's the usual crap with English players. Overhyped? Yes. Expectations way too high as a result? Yes. Still a great player, though, suffering a minor dip in form.
He also does not lack stamina. Despite his body shape, he's quick as you like, strong and lasts the distance, covering more miles per game than most midfielders. His pitch coverage is astonishing.
sincher said:
well reasoned. He is not a natural athelete and he has put on weight even now and lost some speed. SAF will have to monitor Rooney's physical side.
Mithun said:
Neither of those players will be capable of adding as much to the team as Rooney is doing now, even when he's not in his best form, I reckon.
sincher said:
His lack of form is massively overstatet.
No, he has not been very sharp of goal this season, but as you say, his contribution to the side adds value anyway, as he is massively involved throughout the games.
CnutOfAllCnuts said:
SAF has never had any problems dropping or resting ANY player in his time.
freddie kanoute.
Mithun said:
Has he? How many pounds has he gained?
You don't half post some crap...
sincher said:
Huntelaar and Torres will add clinical finishing. Both are front-line strikers. Apart from Saha we don't have that kind of goalscoring CF.
kanoute.
CnutOfAllCnuts said:
Mate watch his Everton clips. Or check google for pics. Its clear as daylight
Freddie.
Mithun said:
Sir Alex has never had any problem realising the value key players add to the side, players such as Rooney.
There are certain players Sir Alex won't drop - Rooney is one of them, Ferdinand is another. Just like he never dropped Cantona. Or Keano.
Mithun said:
Don't mate me. Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime are not my mates.
Of course there is a difference between a 16-17 year old and a 20-21 year old. I'd be worried if he wasn't bigger now than 3-4 years ago!
Mithun said:
Debatable whether they'd score more goals than Rooney (I suspect Huntelaar might, Torres wouldn't). Almost certainly not debatable that they wouldn't add as much to the team (though Torres is a very good build-up player).
It makes me laugh this thread, as soon as Rooney scores a few goals here and there he'll all of a sudden be "Rooney's back" give him a break he is 21 ffs, and look at Ronaldo's last two seasons...utter mince and now he's being claimed as player of the season. It can all change very quickly.
CnutOfAllCnuts said:
Yes Cantona, Keane were very high level performers and very consistent. Rooney can be very good to absolutely dire.
I don't agree with that. He can be unbelievable to decent.