So every Russian spy that was caught and swapped is supposed to be dead by now too?
Russia's at it again
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So every Russian spy that was caught and swapped is supposed to be dead by now too?
Wouldn't put it past them.
Only the ones with inadequate witness protection programmes
It's not even like this is a big secret Putin's publically called for spies/traitors to be executed.
Read both wife and son died in car crashes in Russia, five years apart.
What are the chances?
Brutal, do you think this is a coincidence @antihenry
England finding an alternative method of failing to advance to the latter stages...
But on a serious note, pretty big suggestion there. Action does need to be taken though. Can't have Russia effectively executing people on our soil without repercussions of some sort, especially when their methods have the potential to harm others outside the intended targets as well.
There's presumably absolutely no chance it will have been proved Russia is behind it by the time of the World Cup, as a lengthy investigation needs to take place.
I imagine this is just him pretending to care because we all suspect very little is going to be done about it.
I imagine this is just him pretending to care because we all suspect very little is going to be done about it.
Just seen it's been confirmed the team would still go, just would be dignitaries etc who wouldn't, so still notable but not exactly as significant or as serious as the whole team pulling out.
Why are politicians making public insinuations based on a hunch? I agree the whole situation is highly suspect, however, comments like that from Johnson should be kept indoors and within the context of the investigation itself until any evidence precedent gives legitimate cause for attributing said poisoning to Russia.
Remember athletes still went to the Olympics over there even though the Government tried to get them to boycott it. Allan Wells won the 100m gold.
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Bit harsh on Wells is that. He beat all the Americans a couple of weeks later and had a few other nice victories against them so we'll never know.
Have a read of the last para of the 1980 section take a look at 1981 one - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Wells#1980_-_Olympic_success_and_the_showdown_in_Koblenz
In all fairness the Russians are the prime suspects not only based on past history, but also because S.Skripal’s wife, son and elder brother have also died under suspicion circumstances in the past 2 years. I’m sure the intelligence services already know far more about this than they are telling us. We may not know who is responsible just yet but we really can’t ignore the glaringly obvious suspect any more now than we can with any other crime.
It also put 2 police officers and 1 other member of the emergency services in hospital with “contamination” issues.
If this ever proves to have Russian involvement then there won’t be any high level politicians or royalty at the games and it’s fine for him to say that. If he had said nothing then there would be complaints about that too. Trouble is people “assume” too much nowadays instead of waiting until things are clarified. Social media is frequently up in arms at the slightest thing and this sort of reactionary behaviour is sadly becoming the norm.
Okay I'll take it back.
It's like an episode of the Americans, only in 2018
Stanley Floyd was ranked no1 with the seasons fastest time and was 2-1 against Wells in their races after the Olympics but he might have won anyway
Also doping allegations:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-32883944
Anyway it's known as the Coe-Ovett Olympics because nothing else mattered
Oh my...another one.
We might ask them to extradite somebody at some point - they will say no... and that will be that
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexander_Litvinenko
I was reading further into all this last night so know about Floyd, and it's only right to mention James Sanford too while flushing out more details. Sanford had faster times than even Floyd that year but was injured when the Olympics were on anyway so while he's certainly worth a mention it's debatable as to how much he should come into the equation.
There's lots of ifs buts and maybes about the whole thing.
You've got Floyd's winning record vs. Wells but then Wells beat him the time faced off against each other that was closest to the Olympics. Does that mean Wells would have beaten him at the Olympics or do we put more emphasis on the overall head-to-head? We must also factor in the fact that the Americans knew they weren't going to the Olympics so they may well have been looking to peak at different times, or even not peak that high at all as it was an non Olympic year for the USA atheltes. Was Wells still in top shape by the time he lost twice to Floyd? Would Floyd have been in better shape earlier if he knew he was running the Olympics?
I'd favour Floyd, but would still say we'll never know and that it would be harsh on Wells to say the boycott was the only reason he won. He'd have still have had a decent shot it at it in my opinion. As Floyd was the only American I'm aware of with a winning record vs Wells in those post-Olympic races I'd say it could well have been between those two but even that's just guesswork. Wells seemed to have the better of the likes of Mel Lattany around that time.
Of course the winning time from Wells in the final was slow so that's extra doubt for his detractors. Even on that there's been some debate about whether the wind readings were correct or not and the reading was amended to some capacity at a later date with the IOC and IAAF giving different figures. Wells' 10.11 and personal best in the quarter finals made him the 3rd fastest man that year. Sanford ran 3 quicker times in 1980, Floyd 2 .
Here's a list of those times - http://digilander.libero.it/Mennea/Stagionali/WRL/1980/100.htm
That period of time seems to be a bit of strange era in general. A lot of the fastest times being set at altitude around then, Silvio Leonard and Don Quarrie who did compete at the Olympics were past their best, the missing Americans, Carl Lewis and Calvin Smith who of course wouldn't have been at the Olympics anyway plus Ben Johnson yet to come through and really hit their peaks etc. Things really fell nicely for Wells overall, there's no doubt about that.
Then there's the doping angle too which Floyd didn't escape from rumours/allegations of himself - http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...-lewis-gordon-baskin-florence-griffith-joyner
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100M>400m>800m>1500m IMHO.
As for doping allegations they are unproven Mo Farah and Bradley Wiggins have both had unproven doping allegations against them. Carl Lewis also had allegations. So what's your point?
Insanity
fecking hell. The audacity of it.
Putin's made the calculation he can get anyway with it. And he's right. Because Britain is weak and distracted. And has been for a long time.
He has made the calculation that he can get away with anything as long as he simply denies it.
That's for the masses. At a political level, he doesn't think he'll have to pay a price. Given how much Russian money is in London - and let's face it, everyone knows half of it is dodgy - we are not likely to want to make him pay that price. This current government are far too spineless.
Also, Boris fecking Johnson.
Makes defectors and double agents think twice. That's the point of it.
To be fair, you are not supposed to be a double agent. Russia are just more blatant.
A police officer is in critical condition aswell after being one of the first on the scene. Will be interesting to see how this develops were he to die (goes without saying I hope he/she doesn't).
How easy is to get access to nerve agent?
I'm just asking cause of the inevitable denials.
I'm just asking cause of the inevitable denials.
Early reports say the nerve agent is of the type "G1_AST/0N/5PUR" which is said to be deadly if it manages to get on your nerves.
Why the feck are they talking about the World Cup? I think this should be a little more serious than "well....we're not gonna come and watch some sports in your country so meeeh". Can't believe that's the first consequence mentioned and even something on their mind with this.
How many more terms does Putin have?
I know he ran out of terms before and became 'prime minister'.
The world will be a better place without him.
I know he ran out of terms before and became 'prime minister'.
The world will be a better place without him.
Believe it or not, that would hurt Russia's pride the most.
A country refusing to participate.
It's not going to happen though.
FA would never agree, just like the Olympic committee told Thatcher to feck off.
Apparently it's just the posh fecks that go along to shake hands with other posh fecks, not the team. Why that's even the first thing that springs to mind, I dunno
Carl Lewis didn't have allegations. He failed drug tests. Outright failed them. His tests were covered up, but he was later outed in 2003 by a later head of the USOC drug control administration. He tested positive for banned stimulants, which had other athletes banned, lose their medals, so yea. Lewis was dirty.
Yeah. Doubt Russia gives a feck if Boris refuses to turn up.