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Shinji Kagawa - the new Messi. You heard it here first.
No pressure on the lad here then.
You didn't hear it at all.
Shinji Kagawa - the new Messi. You heard it here first.
No pressure on the lad here then.
... Bale and Kagawa are of similar class.
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...Bloody hell, the premature over-hyping knows no bounds on here.SilentWitness said:... Bale and Kagawa are of similar class.
Bloody hell, the premature over-hyping knows no bounds on here.
Bloody hell, the premature over-hyping knows no bounds on here.
... Perhaps you've not seen enough of Kagawa. He's quite good you see.
Or maybe you haven't seen him for Dortmund. It's not premature if you've seen him play in arguably one of the most competitive leagues in the world, for the title winning team. Included in that league are the CL runners up which they managed to beat in the league twice and also the domestic cup final which Kagawa played a key part in. But yeah, premature to say he's a quality player.
I've seen very little of Kawaga, and nor am I dismissing him or running him down in any way.
But for you to be in no doubt that he's in the same class as Bale and thus (presumably) will be similarly successful in the Prem .... strikes me as rather foolish.
You might have wanted to wait and look a while before jumping. But I guess we'll see soon enough if the hype is justified.
... But yeah, premature to say he's a quality player.
Well, no, actually we don't. The acid test is yet to come.
He probably considers Bale one of the best players in the world.
There's a difference between saying he's a quality player and claiming that he's in the same class as Bale.
There's a difference between saying he's a quality player and claiming that he's in the same class as Bale.
There's a difference between saying he's a quality player and claiming that he's in the same class as Bale.
He's certainly one of the best players in the world in his position.
Alright, pretty evident you dont rate the Bundesliga then. They just won the league and the cup there beating Bayern Munich. Victories Kagawa played a key part in.
I've seen very little of Kawaga, and nor am I dismissing him or running him down in any way.
But for you to be in no doubt that he's in the same class as Bale and thus (presumably) will be similarly successful in the Prem .... strikes me as rather foolish.
You might have wanted to wait and look a while before jumping. But I guess we'll see soon enough if the hype is justified.
There's a difference between saying he's a quality player and claiming that he's in the same class as Bale.
So by your logic, everyone must play in the same league so we can compare them to each other in quality. Nobody was talking about the Premier League, we were talking about them purely as players.
You are a retard.
Bale has hardly been brilliant in the Prem.
Undoubtedly has talent but doesn't really score or assist many. It took him ages to translate his early promise into any kind of form as well.
The year he won the POTY award was a joke. It came almost entirely off the back of his European exploits which were fresh in everyone's mind due to the time of the voting.
You could ask every football manager in the world who'd they rather have - Bale or Kawaga - and 99.99% of them would say Bale. I can say that with confidence, even having not seen much of Kawaga play.
If you believe otherwise, then it's you who is the retard.
You could ask every football manager in the world who'd they rather have - Bale or Kawaga - and 99.99% of them would say Bale. I can say that with confidence, even having not seen much of Kawaga play.
If you believe otherwise, then it's you who is the retard.
But for you to be in no doubt that he's in the same class as Bale and thus (presumably) will be similarly successful in the Prem .... strikes me as rather foolish.
Look, there have been plenty of players who have looked good in other leagues, then not been that great in the Prem.
Why? Because the style of football is different here, and because overall the Prem is a stronger league than most, including the Bundesliga.
What's so wrong with waiting to see how the lad gets on before weighing in with the hype?
Look, there have been plenty of players who have looked good in other leagues, then not been that great in the Prem.
Why? Because the style of football is different here, and because overall the Prem is a stronger league than most, including the Bundesliga.
What's so wrong with waiting to see how the lad gets on before weighing in with the hype?
Voted for by the players is it not? Must be something in it.
That second point opens up a can of worms. Not sure stats always tell the full story. Mind you, according to wikipedia he's got 21 in 110 games for spurs compared to Valencia's 10 in 71 games for United (and only six in a fair few for Wigan).
Good player Bale. Wouldn't mind him at United - on the left with nani/Valencia on the right.
Of course there's something in it.
I just think the vote was heavily influenced by other factors as it was held when his exploits in the CL were fresh in everyone's minds.
I'm also happy to admit that Giggs winning it was influenced by other factors.
It would have been disappointing had that not been the case seeing he was playing with mostly youth and reserve players.
You could ask every football manager in the world who'd they rather have - Bale or Kawaga - and 99.99% of them would say Bale. I can say that with confidence, even having not seen much of Kawaga play.
If you believe otherwise, then it's you who is the retard.
This I agree with - because ini my experience when a player is saddled with expectation and doesn't set the world alight its only a small step from unneccessary criticism - especially on the internet.
Kagawa looks a very tidy player - I think he should be allowed to settle in before any judgment is passed on him.
You said it was "a joke".
It seems those in football, being players who play against him and managers/coaches still in the game deemed him worthy so that's good enough for me. I accept that they will, in general, know more than I do.
To be fair Giggs earned his after a very long and succesful career - but on that basis it would appear that those who cvoted genuinely thought Bale deserved it for whatever reason, rather than it being a "nod" for services to the game.
You could ask every football manager in the world who'd they rather have - Bale or Kawaga - and 99.99% of them would say Bale. I can say that with confidence, even having not seen much of Kawaga play.
If you believe otherwise, then it's you who is the retard.
Every touch in the game. Watching this, Pertrucci looks class aswell.
You could ask every football manager in the world who'd they rather have - Bale or Kawaga - and 99.99% of them would say Bale. I can say that with confidence, even having not seen much of Kawaga play.
If you believe otherwise, then it's you who is the retard.
You could ask every football manager in the world who'd they rather have - Bale or Kawaga - and 99.99% of them would say Bale. I can say that with confidence, even having not seen much of Kawaga play.
If you believe otherwise, then it's you who is the retard.