Started 4 of the last 5. Despite not always being in the middle Moyes is clearly giving him a chance to show why he should be picked more.
Shinji Kagawa
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to the extent that moyes has though?..i'm left scratching my head sometimes..what's my agenda?
He's been a bit clumsy at times, sure. But it's perfectly normal for a manager to feed 'em some bollocks as a diversion - so if that is what's going on here, there is no cause for alarm. Nothing wrong with Shinji either, it would seem, as he is starting tonight.
It's hard to know what Moyes would be hiding where "Kagawa ate himself into a stupor" is a preferable deflection.
Yeah, there is that. I'm thinking something along the lines of Ashley Young and mobile phones.Excited to see him tonight in his best position. Not to knock Young, but if Nani was in instead of the England winger, that'd be a rather excellent front four capable of interchangeable, fluid football.
You don't rate Moyes therefore everything he does is given a negative slant. None of us have any idea what happened, but if it was a deflection, how is it any different from the hundreds of times Fergie did it? We have people now judging him on his body language and the like. It's utter nonsense. If he was strutting down the touchline we'd have people saying "Who does this cnut think he is, acting like he owns the place?"
Not quite but close. I rate him. I just didnt think he was the right fit for our club even though some of his qualities suit us. But honestly I find some what he's said has bizarre. Nothing more. I know I'm not alone either but I'm not putting a negative slant on it because i dont rate him. I just find it odd.
He should make a meal of their defense, really.
*Coat, etc.*
*Coat, etc.*
yeah i think i'm just going to leave it alone. In all honesty it really doesnt mean that much..i'm just stating my impression of what moyes says in pressers
It annoys me that he always strolls around.
He strolls around when Rooney's working his arse off trying to close down the defence.
He strolls around when he's played into good positions.
Does he ever run?
He strolls around when Rooney's working his arse off trying to close down the defence.
He strolls around when he's played into good positions.
Does he ever run?
Not good enough - very disappointing in the first half.
He's such an imaginative player but really needs to take more responsibility for making things happen. Giving the ball back to Rio or Jones doesn't help us much.
My main gripe with him, he is an intelligent player clearly but for whatever reason, he doesn't use his passing, audacity to try to open things up. Too safe backward passes for my liking.
Tidy game. Good form in Europe.
Tidy? He hid once again.
I hope at least now mad winger will admit that the idea of Rooney giving up the 10 position for Kagawa is ridiculous.
Still a bit too safe and slightly bollockless for me given the reputation of him through the middle...but tidy enough to escape a roasting.
He was perfectly good again today.
With Kagawa it's always polemic.
With Kagawa it's always polemic.
Yes, tidy. Kept it ticking and set up Giggs and Rooney for two chances we could and maybe should have scored from. Not great by any means, but a satisfactory and tidy game nonetheless. There can be balance when it comes to assessing Kagawa.
Yeah. Hasn't done enough to suggest himself and Rooney could be more effective in our current state than Rooney behind RVP.
Hasn't justified any of the hype yet and you can't say he hasn't had the chances now. Starting to doubt that he's got the bollocks to play here.
Agreed.
I'm waiting for this lad to pull a Ramsey.
Exactly.
Thought he did well enough today. Desperately needs a goal to get some self belief though. Plays it safe far too often, but he shows a few times every game what he's capable of with some very nice passes. Even at when he has games like this he's still our second best winger though, so he should keep starting because not only because he's performed better then the others, but also because he's a much smarter player and has more ability that you can hope it'll come good.
Ok in the first half and fantastic in the second half I felt, looks so much better when we're the attacking side rather than hiding behind the ball.
He barely touched the ball second half. It's easy to look tidy if you don't get involved in the game in their half.
Thought he did alright, needs to pick up the ball and run more though. Suffered from the midfield being too deep and not enough options around him at times.its obvious hell thrive once we have more runners but he also needs to see himself as a goal threat as he's capable.
He's such a silky and exciting player though, love seeing him with his instinctual lay offs
He's such a silky and exciting player though, love seeing him with his instinctual lay offs
feck being tidy. I want someone who'll attack.
Hm, disagree. I thought he was better in the second half and we played some nice tough when he and Rooney started to see more of the ball. Jones taking a bit more initiative helped, too.
Generally, after the 70 minute mark everything went quite quiet. I didn't even recognise Van Persie until the end there.
He had 55 touches and 92% pass accuracy in the second half (100% aerial duals won too apparently) according to whoscored. He wasn't shit by any means but tidy is a good description. He needs a goal to give himself some confidence though, he doesn't impose himself as much as he could with his ability. Still decent enough though, and deserves to keep his place (on the wing though).
You can't rely on a website to tell you how involved a player was. 55 touches? You could have four or five of them every time you get the ball before releasing it. How often did he get himself involved in the position he was supposed to be playing in? How often did he link with his full back?
He was good in the second half. Same old problem, though: nobody else to move with him and make the space. Jones is the only midfielder we have that does it, and he's a centre-back.
Only Jones Giggs and the center backs had more passes then him in the game (Giggs had 3 more at 53). What do you mean link with his fullback? He didn't play on the wing. Even when RVP came on, he tracked back like the left winger but going forward he always goes central, linking with the fullback isn't what he does really. I'm not saying he was great, but he wasn't bad either. He had a perfectly average performance but when he doesn't have a fantastic game people will always come to criticize him because some other people love to hype him up way too much.
He made a few good goalscoring chances that if Rooney or Giggs didn't feck up we'd have won more comfortably, he also had that one good shot. What did Januzaj do today? I love him and think he's going to be a great player but he was less involved then Kagawa was, or any of our other front 6 players.
Classy player and was alright tonight but generally tends to go missing too often. No chance of him forcing Rooney out of position. Will definitely look better when we improve midfield but isn't the player I hoped he'd be.
He was on the left of midfield for the last thirty minutes. It's his job to show up there at least occassionally. Januzaj wasn't great but what he always looks to do is go forward. He's always looking to get involved in the final third and take responsibility. Kagawa doesn't do that anywhere near enough.
Who knows what Moyes tells him to do. What it says on paper is different to how they actually play, and generally whenever Kagawa has been 'on the left', he's always drifted behind Rooney and Van Persie into the middle and goes out wide every now and then.
You're right though, he needs to take more responsibility and impose himself more on games, but that doesn't mean he's shit or non-existant. It just means he's decent, which is still better then what the others provide.
He was decent. Hard to make things happen when everyone is just standing around, which happened today and has happened for the past three years. Zombie football.
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