Agreed. He needs to stay at Molde and learn how to condition the squad to be able to challenge for several competitions. It's a tempting offer from Villa, but he needs to look at the bigger picture. If he wants to manage United, staying at Molde and getting the CL experience and fighting for titles is whats required.
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Agreed. He needs to stay at Molde and learn how to condition the squad to be able to challenge for several competitions. It's a tempting offer from Villa, but he needs to look at the bigger picture. If he wants to manage United, staying at Molde and getting the CL experience and fighting for titles is whats required.
The experience of managing in the Premiwr League will be much more valuable than continuing in Norway and either going out in CL qualifying or getting battered in the group stage. I think Villa would be a great move for him.
I disagree completely. Villas main objective is to stay in the premiership. Moldes main objective is to win trophies. Which objective is more suited to a United manager?
That is not Villa's main objective, a good manager could do good things with Aston Villa.
Winning trophies in Norway means nish pish in the search for a United manager.
Installing a legacy and a winning culture in a club means everything for a future United manager though. He should complete the work he's laid the foundations for in Molde, before moving on to bigger tasks.
Signing players two shelfs below what's expected and fighting for European football in a club not expected to win anything means pish.
Villa can't reach European spots with the squad they have, it would require serious investment and Villa have little money.
I'd argue that winning trophies in Norway means far more than finishing midtable in the premiership. Being a successful manager is learning how to get the players over the finishing line, being able to micro manage the squads condition and challenge for several trophies and still winning the league. Its the experience thats important, not the quality of the league.
Couldn't disagree more marjen and it seems like Ole may just agree with me. Villa is a superb stepping stone right now, what job do people seriously think he'll ger after leaving Norway?
Bollox, Everton.
Bollox, Everton have a very good squad. Its taken Moyes 10 years to make that!
How many cups have Everton won under Moyes? Highest League finish?
Bollox, Everton have a very good squad. Its taken Moyes 10 years to make that!
And yet he got them into Europe early in his tenure ;-)
I think he should stay a bit longer at Molde to see through his ambition of building a consistent top club there. It's a club which historically has never had that winning culture and mentality. A crack at the Champions League, utilizing the players brought through from the youth squad, and signing some young, hungry players, should do the trick.
There's no doubt the Villa job is a much bigger job in world football, but my argument is he could learn so much more still form the Molde job. Give another couple of years, and he'll surely have offers like these thrown at him in the future as well.
So wait a few more years to get the same offer? A little lack of ambition there don't you think?
Ole would be a good fit for the Villa
He would get the best out their attacking players unlike McLeish
He would get the best out their attacking players unlike McLeish
The total opposite to be honest. Most of my mates are Villa fans and they would be quite happy for a couple of seasons of mid-table mediocrity if it meant playing Football that isn't totally crap.
They also said they would love Solskjaer.
Agreed. It's almost a no-lose managerial job to be honest. He does an average job, taking them to 10th~ in a couple of seasons (average given their squad) and he'll be the manager who took over from the horrible relagation threatened football they played under Mcleish and improved them. Anything better than that would just be a bonus.
Lack of ambition?
Building a legacy in his hometown club and instilling a real winners culture is not lacking ambition, it's having ambition!
The way this is covered by the Norwegian media right now is hilarious! Last reports are that an unknown third person got on the plane before it took off, and all they could get was a picture of the foot of the person boarding the plane. People are going crazy with speculation, what a circus.
Got them into the CL once in ten years. Amazing achievement
If Ole stays at Molde he could win the double this year and retaining the league whilst also playing in the CL. It's a no brainer. He needs to learn how to become a winning manager before jumping ship.
Ole's CV would read much better if he could say:
Molde FK.
2011/2012 won the title from a team that finished 11th in the previous season.
2012/2013 retained the title, finished 3rd in the CL Group and got to the final of the domestic Cup.
He won't leave for Villa anyway, so theres no point discussing this.
Have a few Villa supporting mates too, they have all said they'd love Ole to get the job.
He's on the plane.
Ambition is moving forward in your career, SAF could leave in 4 years, if Ole spends most of that at Molde he has ZERO chance of the United job. 4 years rebuilding Villa could put him in with a chance.
Got them into the CL once in ten years. Amazing achievement
Is actually is!
And he gets them into Europe most years.
Noggy papers reporting that he didn't show up at training in Molde today, so he boarded the plane, it seems.
My thoughts are that I trust Solskjaer's judgement, and I trust his ability. He'll want to go where he thinks it's right for his managerial career to go. Maybe he has his sights on United once Fergie leaves.
He'll continue to do well, whatever he decides
My thoughts are that I trust Solskjaer's judgement, and I trust his ability. He'll want to go where he thinks it's right for his managerial career to go. Maybe he has his sights on United once Fergie leaves.
He'll continue to do well, whatever he decides
He'd get a much bigger job offer imo in Europe if he retained the league at Molde and did well in CL. It'd show that it wasn't a fluke and he has that winning mentality. That'd increase his chances of getting the United job far more down the line.
Moyes as an example has no chance of becoming the next United manager because the experience he's had at Everton isn't whats required at United. It's like fitting a square peg in a round hole. Its the same if Ole went to Villa, we aren't after managers who do well, we're after managers that win trophies consistently. Ole wouldn't be able to show that if he went to Villa.
Me too, I'm at Birmingham Uni so there are a good few knocking around. By all accounts they are excited about the prospect and want a young manager with attacking ambition that can work with the young squad.
I think the main problem with Villa of late has been the amount of players on ridiculous wages, leaving very little scope for player investment. With Heskey and Cuellar not having their contracts renewed I can see that freeing up a bit of room for a few signings.
A bigger job than Villa straight from Molde? I think you're dreaming.
Villa are a big team FYI.
I'll say this again, winning trophies in Norway will mean nish pish in the chase for the United job.
Does Moyes really have no chance of being our next manager? When Fergie retires I'd be surprised if he isn't one of the favourites to be honest.
Moyes is a good manager, but he's not a winner. A trophy winner.
And McLeish is.... so what.
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A statement on the club website of Norwegian side Molde, currently managed by Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, says they are aware of Aston Villa's interest in the former Manchester United striker and suggests he is in talks over the vacant managerial position at Villa Park.
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A statement on the club website of Norwegian side Molde, currently managed by Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, says they are aware of Aston Villa's interest in the former Manchester United striker and suggests he is in talks over the vacant managerial position at Villa Park.
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Its about having a clear understanding of a managers experience and their abilities. If you were the United board, would you rather sign a manager who has won titles in the Dutch League (as an example) or would you rather sign a manager who has finished midtable consistently for 10 years? What manager has the experience more suited to the United position?
As for Ole, i'd say a better move for him is to wait it out for a season. If he wins back to back titles he'd get alot more interested clubs from over Europe. I'd actually say that a better move for him would be a club like PSV. That would be the natural step up into becoming a top manager. Turning a club like that around to winning the Dutch League and doing well in the CL would put him in a fantastic position to take over at United.
Just my opinion though, sometimes you shouldn't jump at the first offer. You need to look at the bigger picture.
FWIW, I actually have money on Ole being the next United manager! So i'm really hoping he doesn't accept the villa job because I think it'd delay his progress by several years and would therefore lose my £50!
It's a good opportunity, but he will also be leaving a project which is far from finished. But, there is an aspect in this that none of you seem to have thought of, and that is his family. He said it was because of his family that he moved back home, they have just settled here now, and he has said many times that they want to stay here for a while now. So, he will also have to take that into consideration.
This is a huge step up for Ole.He obviously feels confident he can do the job , whether this will harm or help his chances to becoming SAF successor time will tell.But i feel he'll be ok.
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Can't help but think it's all a bit too soon for him but I will wish him all the best. Love the man
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I am against this on the basis of him having been a Man Utd player for effectively his whole career. Aston Villa will never, ever, ever be his club.
Other than that, nothing against him at all.As a Molde fan, I have to say it will be very hard to take if he leaves now. It's like a scenario where the only mason in the world leaves you with a half-baked foundation. You are left with something you have no idea how to finish, and it's of no use to anybody.
I fear it is a mistake to move so early - he's got a nice set-up at Molde and even though the odds are against them getting into the Champions League proper that would be an enticing prospect for someone with his history and connection to the club.
Villa are a good club in difficult circumstances, but there are always jobs available in the Premier League every season (not just the Chelsea job) - I don't see the rush; one more season in Norway to retain the title and then look again I'd say.
He's so young, this won't be his last offer.
Villa are a good club in difficult circumstances, but there are always jobs available in the Premier League every season (not just the Chelsea job) - I don't see the rush; one more season in Norway to retain the title and then look again I'd say.
He's so young, this won't be his last offer.
its a bad job to take. without serious investment they are in a relegation battle next year. that ok for the likes of martinez and rodgers as there clubs epect that and 17 place is a success. Villa fans however want to see barcalona football and challenge for the title. anything else and they'll turn on the manager.
i think ole would be wise to see who goes where.....some big jobs available and potenial for other positions to open up.
i think ole would be wise to see who goes where.....some big jobs available and potenial for other positions to open up.
Relegation battle? They have some cracking players and if Ole is as good as we hope he'll bring a few decent signings at a good price to complement what they already have.
Villa's squad should've never been in a relegation battle!
Villa's squad should've never been in a relegation battle!
Villa will no doubt become the new Sunderland in terms of taking our players on loan.
Could work out for the likes of Macheda...
Could work out for the likes of Macheda...