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Will Spurs finish in the top four in the upcoming season?


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Coming along nicely:

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The scale of these structures is impressive. That looks awesome.
 
He is a really fantastic player and easily our most important. Hands off!

He's a gem, lad. Probably been my favorite player to watch this season after the United lads of course. Vision, technique, passing ability, movement on and off the ball, he's got the lot. What's more he really understands Poch' system and he executes that understanding perfectly. His work rate defensively speaking is of huge benefit to a pressing team. Bet Klopp is interested as well.

Sanchez settled in nicely too, nothing fancy but looked comfortable playing alongside Alderweild and Vertonghen. Spurs were an altogether different outfit this afternoon, shades of last seasons dominance even.

Let's hope Wembley can continue to be a thorn in the side.
 
He is a really fantastic player and easily our most important. Hands off!

That's a bit OTT considering we also have Kane. I'd say Eriken is our 2nd most important player.
 
That's a bit OTT considering we also have Kane. I'd say Eriken is our 2nd most important player.

Eriksen has been by far your most consistent and influential player thus far in the campaign. Kane is feeding off him.
 
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Eriksen has been by far your most consistent and influential player thus far in the campaign. Kane is feeding of him.

I take into account last the three seasons ... Kane is two-time Golden Boot winner. Goals are priceless.
 
Kane's goal, did me meant it or was a fluke? Just watched it and it looked like it was a cross.
 
Great performance yesterday against a pretty sluggish Everton. Considering we had no Dembele, Aurier or Rose starting it's definitely encouraging. 0-3 is always pleasing. Kane will hopefully improve his sharpness could easily had 3-4.
 
Great performance yesterday against a pretty sluggish Everton. Considering we had no Dembele, Aurier or Rose starting it's definitely encouraging. 0-3 is always pleasing. Kane will hopefully improve his sharpness could easily had 3-4.

--------------- Lloris
Alderweireld - Sanchez - Vertonghen
Aurier --- Dier - Dembele ----- Rose
------ Eriksen ------- Alli
--------------- Kane

Looks like a very strong XI to me. I think the back 3 will prove to be the best in the Prem. Rose and Aurier will provide lots of pace on the flanks. Dier (or Wanyama) and Dembele are a strong CM pairing, whilst Alli, Eriksen and Kane can provide lots of goals and creativity up front.

And when I look at our backup/squad competition options - with the likes of Wanyama, Llorente, Trippier, Vorm, Davies, Winks, Son and Lamela - I think we have good squad depth.
 
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--------------- Lloris
Alderweireld - Sanchez - Vertonghen
Aurier --- Dier - Dembele ----- Rose
------ Eriksen ------- Alli
--------------- Kane

Looks like a very strong XI to me. I think the back 3 will prove to be the best in the Prem. Rose and Aurier will provide lots of pace on the flanks. Dier (or Wanyama) and Dembele are a strong CM pairing, whilst Alli, Eriksen and Kane can provide lots of goals and creativity up front.

And when I look at our backup/squad competition options - with the likes of Wanyama, Llorente, Tripper, Vorm, Davies, Winks, Son and Lamela - I think we have good squad depth.

Totally agree and you can see why we were/are after Barkley, he could slip it to replace Ali or Eriksen. Then Son and Llorente provide something different with hopefully Lamela back in the new year. That's great depth.
 
Strange that Sanchez is in the middle of the back 3, considering he has poor distribution. Surely the central position is for the best ball player?
 
Strange that Sanchez is in the middle of the back 3, considering he has poor distribution. Surely the central position is for the best ball player?

From what I have heard he is very good and comfortable with the ball at his feet and can take the ball forward, I haven't heard and thing that negative about his passing but Toby is by far the best passer of the 3.
 
How would the Spurs fans compare Eriksen to de Bruyne? Both fantastic players with not much between them either way, but I'm mainly talking about style of play rather than quality. I've seen Eriksen a few times obviously but do not watch him as much as de Bruyne.
 
How would the Spurs fans compare Eriksen to de Bruyne? Both fantastic players with not much between them either way, but I'm mainly talking about style of play rather than quality. I've seen Eriksen a few times obviously but do not watch him as much as de Bruyne.

I like Eriksen more. They are both creative and intelligent players imo. But Eriksen is more the type who can dictate a game and set the tempo. He seems to be moving all the time with a great sense for posistioning and therefore always offering his teammates an option to pass too. I think Eriksen is more influential to the allround game of a team and KDB is perhaps more so than Eriksen a final third kind of player.
 
How would the Spurs fans compare Eriksen to de Bruyne? Both fantastic players with not much between them either way, but I'm mainly talking about style of play rather than quality. I've seen Eriksen a few times obviously but do not watch him as much as de Bruyne.
It's like David Silva vs Juan Mata. One is more playmaker-oriented while the other is better in the oppo's final third. Eriksen being David Silva in this analogy.
 
I like Eriksen more. They are both creative and intelligent players imo. But Eriksen is more the type who can dictate a game and set the tempo. He seems to be moving all the time with a great sense for posistioning and therefore always offering his teammates an option to pass too. I think Eriksen is more influential to the allround game of a team and KDB is perhaps more so than Eriksen a final third kind of player.

It's like David Silva vs Juan Mata. One is more playmaker-oriented while the other is better in the oppo's final third. Eriksen being David Silva in this analogy.

Spot on. I'm Danish, so i usual watch United and the Danish players. It helps that it's pretty much what they show on tv anyway. Lots of United fans in Denmark because of Schmeichel.

I'm a bit biased, but i think Eriksen might be one of the most underrated players in the league. You often have players that can dictate the tempo and get players involved, but not get that many assists and goals themselves. And then you have players that plays closer to the goal, assists and scores, but are not coming deep and dictating the tempo.

Eriksen is a rare mix of both and there is a huge responsibility on him in that Spurs side to dictate the tempo and assist and score. His "playing radius" is huge. He both need to come deep and help out in attack. Just look at the Spurs side against Everton. There is very little creativity, it's not like Dier and Sissoko are playmakers and Dele Alli and Kane are more finishers(though both can create chances and Kane is underrated as a footballer, much more than a scorer, but thats one for another day).

I think Eriksen kinda allows Spurs to not need another playermaker and still play good football. Someone like Dele Alli benefits a lot from it, he actually has a lot of games where he plays pretty bad, but then scores a goal with one good action. But Spurs still look good because Eriksen makes them tick.

England just had sort of the same kind of games, with dreadfull overall play but that moment of brilliance that opened up the game. You could really use a player like Eriksen.

I would give everything to get another Dane to United who could actually contribute and be a first team player. I miss the Schmeichel days :)
 
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I've always thought Spurs lack a player that can pick up the ball and dribble past players at speed. I feel the closest they have is Lamela but he's nothing special

The likes of Eriksen and Alli are great players but neither will cause havoc by going past multiple players. I remember when we played Spurs two games ago, they barely bothered Courtois and with Alli and Eriksen marked out the game they looked totally clueless.

You look at all the top teams in Europe and they all have this type of player in their team
 
I've always thought Spurs lack a player that can pick up the ball and dribble past players at speed. I feel the closest they have is Lamela but he's nothing special

The likes of Eriksen and Alli are great players but neither will cause havoc by going past multiple players. I remember when we played Spurs two games ago, they barely bothered Courtois and with Alli and Eriksen marked out the game they looked totally clueless.

You look at all the top teams in Europe and they all have this type of player in their team

Dembele! I agree though that they could need another winger. It would be tricky though to fit that in with the current formation. 3-4-3 works quite well for them.
 
Strange that Sanchez is in the middle of the back 3, considering he has poor distribution. Surely the central position is for the best ball player?

I think Sanchez in the middle shows how little fans understand what managers want when they go into the market. Every Spurs fan, every commentator, etc - thought Sanchez would be a RCB and basically replace Dier when Spurs played 3 at the back, keeping the same style of play. Read the threads here during his transfer, for example.

What it appears Pochettino really wanted was a pacey CB to play the middle of the formation and allow Alderweireld and Vertonghen to press up more and be involved in play in the traditional MF zone even more than did already. What we saw yesterday was the 2 excellent ball playing center halves pushed up near the mid-line or even higher once they had the pace of Sanchez covering them, providing wider passing angles and extra outlets for Dier and better coverage for the WB's. It was actually a substantially different version of 3 at the back than what Spurs played last year with Dier on the right hand side.
 
Spot on. I'm Danish, so i usual watch United and the Danish players. It helps that it's pretty much what they show on tv anyway. Lots of United fans in Denmark because of Schmeichel.

I'm a bit biased, but i think Eriksen might be one of the most underrated players in the league. You often have players that can dictate the tempo and get players involved, but not get that many assists and goals themselves. And then you have players that plays closer to the goal, assists and scores, but are not coming deep and dictating the tempo.

Eriksen is a rare mix of both and there is a huge responsibility on him in that Spurs side to dictate the tempo and assist and score. His "playing radius" is huge. He both need to come deep and help out in attack. Just look at the Spurs side against Everton. There is very little creativity, it's not like Dier and Sissoko are playmakers and Dele Alli and Kane are more finishers(though both can create chances and Kane is underrated as a footballer, much more than a scorer, but thats one for another day).

I think Eriksen kinda allows Spurs to not need another playermaker and still play good football. Someone like Dele Alli benefits a lot from it, he actually has a lot of games where he plays pretty bad, but then scores a goal with one good action. But Spurs still look good because Eriksen makes them tick.

England just had sort of the same kind of games, with dreadfull overall play but that moment of brilliance that opened up the game. You could really use a player like Eriksen.

I would give everything to get another Dane to United who could actually contribute and be a first team player. I miss the Schmeichel days :)

Imo Eriksen is the best player at Tottenham and at the moment one of the best in the league. I think this season a lot of people will start to give him more recognition.

And I agree with you England are lacking a player like Eriksen. Not so much the mix that you are stating, but they just lack a playmaker. Someone who can receive the ball under pressure, is good in tight spaces, with creativity and quick thinking that could move the ball forward from deep. And talking about KDB, Belgium actually has the same problem. With all their talent, they also look very disjointed in games and rely heavily on individual brilliance to break teams. It is actually a big reason why teams like Spain and Germany look so good at the moment, they have multiple players with these qualities.
 
I think Sanchez in the middle shows how little fans understand what managers want when they go into the market. Every Spurs fan, every commentator, etc - thought Sanchez would be a RCB and basically replace Dier when Spurs played 3 at the back, keeping the same style of play. Read the threads here during his transfer, for example.

What it appears Pochettino really wanted was a pacey CB to play the middle of the formation and allow Alderweireld and Vertonghen to press up more and be involved in play in the traditional MF zone even more than did already. What we saw yesterday was the 2 excellent ball playing center halves pushed up near the mid-line or even higher once they had the pace of Sanchez covering them, providing wider passing angles and extra outlets for Dier and better coverage for the WB's. It was actually a substantially different version of 3 at the back than what Spurs played last year with Dier on the right hand side.

This is true. I was amongst those who assumed that Sanchez would be RCB.

Of course that's still possible if Sanchez ends up having a mare of game in the centre, where Alderweireld has previously played, but at least the Everton game shows Pochettino's intentions.
 
I think Sanchez in the middle shows how little fans understand what managers want when they go into the market. Every Spurs fan, every commentator, etc - thought Sanchez would be a RCB and basically replace Dier when Spurs played 3 at the back, keeping the same style of play. Read the threads here during his transfer, for example.

What it appears Pochettino really wanted was a pacey CB to play the middle of the formation and allow Alderweireld and Vertonghen to press up more and be involved in play in the traditional MF zone even more than did already. What we saw yesterday was the 2 excellent ball playing center halves pushed up near the mid-line or even higher once they had the pace of Sanchez covering them, providing wider passing angles and extra outlets for Dier and better coverage for the WB's. It was actually a substantially different version of 3 at the back than what Spurs played last year with Dier on the right hand side.
We also operated as more of a diamond in possession like:
Kane
Alli
Eriksen-Sissoko
Dier

Which gave the Everton defense tons of problems as there was always an open man when they tried to press us and either Eriksen or Sissoko would eventually lose their marker to make a free run into the box, which resulted in a lot of chances.

Out of possession it looked more like a 3-5-2 with Kane and Alli often higher up front.
 
Spot on. I'm Danish, so i usual watch United and the Danish players. It helps that it's pretty much what they show on tv anyway. Lots of United fans in Denmark because of Schmeichel.

I'm a bit biased, but i think Eriksen might be one of the most underrated players in the league. You often have players that can dictate the tempo and get players involved, but not get that many assists and goals themselves. And then you have players that plays closer to the goal, assists and scores, but are not coming deep and dictating the tempo.

Eriksen is a rare mix of both and there is a huge responsibility on him in that Spurs side to dictate the tempo and assist and score. His "playing radius" is huge. He both need to come deep and help out in attack. Just look at the Spurs side against Everton. There is very little creativity, it's not like Dier and Sissoko are playmakers and Dele Alli and Kane are more finishers(though both can create chances and Kane is underrated as a footballer, much more than a scorer, but thats one for another day).

I think Eriksen kinda allows Spurs to not need another playermaker and still play good football. Someone like Dele Alli benefits a lot from it, he actually has a lot of games where he plays pretty bad, but then scores a goal with one good action. But Spurs still look good because Eriksen makes them tick.

England just had sort of the same kind of games, with dreadfull overall play but that moment of brilliance that opened up the game. You could really use a player like Eriksen.

I would give everything to get another Dane to United who could actually contribute and be a first team player. I miss the Schmeichel days :)
Good assessment although I'd argue Dembele is just as integral for them in terms of linking the midfield and attack. In any case they're remarkably well balanced. That back line and keeper is something I'm greatly envious of.
 
Wonder if any of the US football/soccer stadium have them. Though bit of a maintenance headache i suppose.

They don't because both NFL teams and MLS clubs hate the idea. NFL teams make a big deal out of pushing for NFL primary stadiums and the MLS clubs always go for a football exclusive stadium (with much less capacity). Its a huge reason why the Raiders are moving from Oakland (and sharing a stadium with a baseball team) to Las Vegas and getting their own NFL specific stadium.

Currently the Chargers are going to temporarily play in the LA Galaxy football stadium while the NFL specific stadium they will share with the Rams gets built.

Its really not a common or popular thing for outdoor stadiums in the US to be mixed use as none of the outdoor sports clubs end up liking the situation and they always jump to getting a football/NFL/baseball specific stadium ASAP.

Its more common with indoor basketball/hockey arenas where its easier to manage and the site lines are mostly equal.
 
Good assessment although I'd argue Dembele is just as integral for them in terms of linking the midfield and attack. In any case they're remarkably well balanced. That back line and keeper is something I'm greatly envious of.

Agreed about Dembele, he's so important to how we play.

I'd say it's one of the two areas in the squad we could look to improve on (stylistically). An attacking player who can dribble at pace in tight areas and a player in cm with a more attacking impetus to replace Dembele when he's injured/ can't manage more than a game a week.

Dier and Wanyama probably don't provide as much attacking input as Dembele and Winks is a bit more metronomic (if that makes sense) than the others.
 
They don't because both NFL teams and MLS clubs hate the idea. NFL teams make a big deal out of pushing for NFL primary stadiums and the MLS clubs always go for a football exclusive stadium (with much less capacity). Its a huge reason why the Raiders are moving from Oakland (and sharing a stadium with a baseball team) to Las Vegas and getting their own NFL specific stadium.

Currently the Chargers are going to temporarily play in the LA Galaxy football stadium while the NFL specific stadium they will share with the Rams gets built.

Its really not a common or popular thing for outdoor stadiums in the US to be mixed use as none of the outdoor sports clubs end up liking the situation and they always jump to getting a football/NFL/baseball specific stadium ASAP.

Its more common with indoor basketball/hockey arenas where its easier to manage and the site lines are mostly equal.

When you say "NFL specific stadium" do you mean that the dual-use stadiums concerned lack some NFL facilities that NFL specific stadiums have?

I ask because, as I understand things, the Spurs stadium will be NFL specific (in that it will provide full NFL facilities in every respect), it just won't be NFL-exclusive.
 
Our win against Everton was our fourth on the bounce away from home and takes our goal difference on the road during that time to 16+ ... which surprisingly is the best away GD over 4 consecutive away games in the top flight of English football for 125 years (Sunderland in 1892, with 18+).
 
Our win against Everton was our fourth on the bounce away from home and takes our goal difference on the road during that time to 16+ ... which surprisingly is the best away GD over 4 consecutive away games in the top flight of English football for 125 years (Sunderland in 1892, with 18+).

what a pointless stat, who has the best over 5? and who had the best over 3?
 
Don't know about over 3, but over 5 it's Sunderland again in the same year with +21.

haha ahh right, and 6 games? some people must have so much time on there hands to collect these (for me) daft bits of info.

I think the thing that annoys me is when it's over a set number of games like 4, I don't mind long stretches like 10 but 4 just seems a randomarsed stat number, unless I'm just a numpty and 4 in football stat terms is classed as a decent run.
 
Our win against Everton was our fourth on the bounce away from home and takes our goal difference on the road during that time to 16+ ... which surprisingly is the best away GD over 4 consecutive away games in the top flight of English football for 125 years (Sunderland in 1892, with 18+).

Another trophy for the Spurs cabinet :drool:
 
Sorry but who the feck wants to read that? :lol:

Quite a few Spurs fans I'd imagine, plus others interested to find out more about how Pochettino has built such a strong team on a shoe-string budget
 
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