Is their defence really better than ours? They miss their best CB and go to pieces, we have barely seen our two best CBs but have been better defensively.
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Is their defence really better than ours? They miss their best CB and go to pieces, we have barely seen our two best CBs but have been better defensively.
In terms of personnel I'd say so. Verton and Alder are probably the best centre-back duo in the league.
They're also missing Wanyama, when you're talking about a defensive unit, DMs are just as important. It'd be like us having Bailly and Matic out.
I'm just interested to see what they do in January. They have to spend money in the window, they've been linked to several midfielders already so I imagine they'll be in for some backup in midfield at the very least.
They’ll probably get Barkley, but then he’ll end up like Oxlade at Pool. Some games here and there, but not good enough to play every game and not good enough to challenge the best teams.
Barkleys been injured for a long time though (still is). If they want a player to have an immediate impact then Barkley isn't the right player to go for.
Kieron Dyer reveals he was earning more in 2002 than current Tottenham international star
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/kieron-dyer-reveals-earning-more-11705262
Interesting article.
The shocking wage structure at Spurs is commonly brushed aside when the team is winning and scoring goals for fun. The fans are happy in the knowledge that their club are building bridges toward that elusive first trophy in decades, the players content that they are progressing both individually and as a cohesive unit, with a league title very much on the cards
Then, all of a sudden, they stop winning games and scoring goals for fun and the first thing people point to is that shocking wage structure. By no means are the club in dire straits as of this moment, the team they have are more than capable of turning it around, but (emphasise on the but) should their form not pick up soon and they fail to qualify for the CL proper, the consequences of that failure will surface. What with the stadium costs hiking well beyond initial expectations, the club are in no financial position to be handing out a squadwide salary increase. It stands to reason that a mass exit will occur. It's inevitable.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/kieron-dyer-reveals-earning-more-11705262
Interesting article.
The shocking wage structure at Spurs is commonly brushed aside when the team is winning and scoring goals for fun. The fans are happy in the knowledge that their club are building bridges toward that elusive first trophy in decades, the players content that they are progressing both individually and as a cohesive unit, with a league title very much on the cards
Then, all of a sudden, they stop winning games and scoring goals for fun and the first thing people point to is that shocking wage structure. By no means are the club in dire straits as of this moment, the team they have are more than capable of turning it around, but (emphasise on the but) should their form not pick up soon and they fail to qualify for the CL proper, the consequences of that failure will surface. What with the stadium costs hiking well beyond initial expectations, the club are in no financial position to be handing out a squadwide salary increase. It stands to reason that a mass exit will occur. It's inevitable.
It's a total bullshit article to be honest when you actually read into it, he is talking about Dele who is on £50K a week, which for a 21 yo isn't bad. Dyer was on £65K a week back in 2002 when he was 23 or 24 IIRC which was ridiculous, for a guy who had as shit a career as he did he really should have the brains to shut his mouth. I mean Rashford is on what, £30K a week who is also a pretty regular England International now.
The point here isn't necessarily the quality of the content in the article, rather that the wage structure at Spurs is beginning to come under scrutiny from certain sections of the media following their poor form. It's a point that has been raised on this forum on many occasions and one that will only strengthen the longer Spurs continue to under perform.
The Rashford example doesn't really hold water, lad. The wage structure at United will never come under question - certainly not from an "underpaid" perspective anyway - regardless of where the team finish in he league.
Their squad really isn't as good as ours, not even close. They have a decent to strong starting eleven, but they deal with injuries much less than we do. That's just because of underinvestment though.
Spurs' squad isn't close to one of the best in the league, the Spurs fans on here would tell you that themselves no doubt.
If they stagnate it's not really on Poch, if he isn't being given funds to improve the team because of this new ground they're building then I don't expect them to do anything other than stagnate.
There isn't much I can say other than if the players aren't happy with their pay they shouldn't sign a contract and should hand in a transfer request, we simply don't have the income that 5-6 0ther clubs in the league do. This fact is simply never mentioned EVER, its simply "Spurs should pay more wages cause the players are worth it". ITs an absolute stickman argument, as a club were growing but we have a long way to go yet, simple as that and I for one don't really have a problem with it.
I agree 100% which is kind of why I raised the point in the first place.
Spurs, in light of their current financial difficulties, will struggle to compete with wage demands. Finishing in the top 4 is absolutely essential for Spurs this season, as Levy and Poch will use the resulting qualification to the CL as their primary bargaining chip on contract renewel day. That's really all I'm saying.
Still doable, we have been shit this year and not to far off 4th.
Losing Walker to City, Alderweireld to injury, and Alli having a mediocre season have really pulled them back. They do tend to perform better as the season goes on though so we'll see.
Still not far from top 4.
Not much to worry about imo
Not much to worry about imo
Rose and Trippier at the darts
I heard Spurs players have a lot of bonuses written into their contracts from a friend. make the CL, bonus, make it out of the group stages, bonus, next round of CL, again a bonus. Each round of progression through domestic cups, bonuses. Can any Spurs fan confirm this?
I think that is very likely yes.
If I was running a football club that's how I would do it. Lot's of performance related team bonuses (not individual though).
Probably, yes.
Winning a trophy is probably a huge bonus, which that savvy business man Levy added into all Contracts knowing the clause would never be triggered.
That is massively debatable and the league table would indicate otherwise.
i wonder why the likes of Barca/RM/PSG have not gone after any of their players yet ? Is it only United that intend to raid them ? How will Spurs react when it happens ? How will the players react when offered huge contracts at a glamorous club
? Will the Summer of 2018 be the time we see it happen ? Kane in particular must be opening eyes all over Europe.
? Will the Summer of 2018 be the time we see it happen ? Kane in particular must be opening eyes all over Europe.
Some really funny reading the past month on here, some of the posts in November were ridiculous, trying to make out Poch isn't a top manager because we lose a few games with some bad injuries. Or trying to make out like Spurs are in crisis and about to implode. It's rubbish.
Firstly, with playing at Wembley this season, Spurs were never going to replicate the points tally from last season when they won 18 out of 19 home games or something. So that straight away means they have a disadvantage compared to their rivals. Then you have to factor in some bad injuries to key players, Wanyama who was one of the POTY last season has been missing since the first game of the season. He's still not back. Dembele had had a bad niggly injury and been missing too much. Then Toby got injured so Dier has played more games at CB than in DM.
I personally think Spurs will have a much better second half of the season. The Wembley hoodoo is well and truly banished, the team look more comfortable playing there, and injuries seem to be clearing up. Wanyama and Lamela back in training, Toby a few weeks away.
There is still the FA Cup, CL and Top 4 spots to play for. This was always going to be a challenging season, with the move away from WHL, and looking at it objectively, Spurs are in the KO rounds of the CL and finished top of arguably the toughest of all the CL groups. FA Cup about to begin, and still in the fight for the top 4. If we finished top 4 this season it would be a tremendous achievement and Poch should get high praise for it.
The league cup exit was disappointing, so were some disappointing results at Arsenal, City and United, but City are running away with it in a season when Spurs were never going to get near it anyway, due to Wembley. So all in all it's not too bad.
Firstly, with playing at Wembley this season, Spurs were never going to replicate the points tally from last season when they won 18 out of 19 home games or something. So that straight away means they have a disadvantage compared to their rivals. Then you have to factor in some bad injuries to key players, Wanyama who was one of the POTY last season has been missing since the first game of the season. He's still not back. Dembele had had a bad niggly injury and been missing too much. Then Toby got injured so Dier has played more games at CB than in DM.
I personally think Spurs will have a much better second half of the season. The Wembley hoodoo is well and truly banished, the team look more comfortable playing there, and injuries seem to be clearing up. Wanyama and Lamela back in training, Toby a few weeks away.
There is still the FA Cup, CL and Top 4 spots to play for. This was always going to be a challenging season, with the move away from WHL, and looking at it objectively, Spurs are in the KO rounds of the CL and finished top of arguably the toughest of all the CL groups. FA Cup about to begin, and still in the fight for the top 4. If we finished top 4 this season it would be a tremendous achievement and Poch should get high praise for it.
The league cup exit was disappointing, so were some disappointing results at Arsenal, City and United, but City are running away with it in a season when Spurs were never going to get near it anyway, due to Wembley. So all in all it's not too bad.
There is absolutely no chance Spurs sell Kane next summer. In fact I can't see it happening for at least three or four seasons, if ever. Maybe when he is 27/28 and yet to win anything with Spurs, not until then. Madrid can dangle what they want, Levy won't even contemplate selling. It would be like Liverpool selling Gerrard.
Well they do have experience with such dealings. Not the first time and pretty sure Levy will not flinch unless it's on his terms.
You best win one of those, because another year of no trophies and players are gonna start looking elsewhere.
Especially if you fail to get Top 4.
78 posts and already Glaston MkII. Levy rules the world and the rest can just dance around the Tottenham Christmas tree. Where do you all come from?
If and when Madrid/Barca/PSG knocks on his bredroom door, offering zillions of balubas, nice weather, prestige, a new challange and most of all a chance of winnng something. Then you will see a young ambitious man changing his tune in no time. A wife who smells the glamour and a family who understands that’s this is a chance to good to reject. Supporters yes but regarding their sons future loyalty jumps out of the window. But .... until then I don’t want to spoil your party. Off course Harry Glorious Kane will be Spurs loyal until Glaston and you will retire in Spurs heaven. (the last part was a joke in case ..... )
Considering Liverpool didn't sell Coutinho, how vital Kane is and so on I don't think it's unreasonable to hold the position that Kane will be a Spurs player next season too. What most spurs fans say (and I think most fans in general) is that he will be there next season, but eventually he might look to leave if Spurs stagnate and he continue to kick on. Hardly a 'Levy rules the world' position.
Do they, though? I'm unaware of any opposition clubs coming in for the likes of Kane, Alli, Eriksen, Alderweireld etc, at least with substantial offer worth considering.No one seems willing to even test the waters with one Daniel Levy at the helm.
One thing is absolutely guaranteed to happen this summer - Spurs will receive offers from all over Europe requesting the services of one Harry Kane. I'm sure United will be among those chasing his signature but Levy, bolstered by his bizzare hatred of all things United, will bend over backwards to see us fail in this endeavour. It will take a gargantuan bid from Woody to see it done.
In the likelihood that United do fail to sign Kane then I hope he stays at Spurs. The idea of him plying his trade at City gives me heartburn.
Yes ...and this is one reason why the wages deficit paid by Spurs compared to the other top 6 six clubs - a deficit which has been exaggerated in any case - is not as big as some make out.
Harry Kane is a special player. He also seems to have a superb attitude.
There's has been no bid for Kane simply because a) we won't sell him and more importantly he doesn't want a move. Both Chelsea and United were after a goal scoring all round centre forward and there was not one bid for Kane, I think that's very telling.
Am seriously so astounded how Spurs players aren't kicking up a fuss over their (comparibly) meagre contracts vs what they could earn elsewhere if they were to join a top team. How does the club keep them so happy, not evev as if they are constantly winning!
Well Rose did. Alderweireld hasn’t signed a new contract and Eriksen doesn’t seem as keen either.
Alli and Kane have signed long term contracts so aren’t in much of a position to force through a move.
Bad agent advice! No wonder Alli sacked his!
I’m not saying some won’t want to move for wages, Walker did and Rose will. But players like Verts, Alderwield, Eriksen and Kane could easily increase their wages elsewhere and they will know this and have known it for a long time all I can say is they must believe in what Poch is doing. Not saying it won’t change in the future but the idea of a mass exodus next summer is unrealistic, it’s just my opinion.
Come on mate players aren’t thick enough not to know what others are earning, why is it so hard to believe they want to stay?
Eriksen signed a new contract just over a year ago.
It just has to be that (in bold). And in that case, Poch deserves so much more credit. It's unbelievable (genuinely mean it)!
To be fair the vast number of players signed a new contract before massive increase in wages that happened in the last year. I do think though Kane and Alli are attached to the club for at least the short to medium term though.
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