Relax, its going to happen. We're going to wait for Ancelotti to knock Bayern out tonight and hence be guaranteed another season, then we'll confirm a deal with van Gaal by the end of this week.
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This is the key thing for me, I think he's not only one of the only available candidates, but he'd also be a perfect fit I reckon.
Can we hurry up and get the fecking contract signed please? Not seeing anything new or encouraging online anywhere today.
@united_99 makes a good point actually, Querioz's spells at the club changed Sir Alex approach to games, especially in Europe, we abandoned the swashbuckling 442 esq performances particuarly in big away matches and went quite often with a 433 or variables of it, it's only when Queiroz left the 2nd time that Sir Alex slowly started slipping back to his more authodox 442 approach which also coincided with the ultimate stagnation of our football these past years.
And as @united_99 says again, LvG through the years has favoured wingers, his first Barca team had Rivaldo and Figo coming in from the flanks, his Bayern side ended with Ribery and Robben, his Ajax side had Overmars and Ronald de Boer and co.
And as @united_99 says again, LvG through the years has favoured wingers, his first Barca team had Rivaldo and Figo coming in from the flanks, his Bayern side ended with Ribery and Robben, his Ajax side had Overmars and Ronald de Boer and co.
The Class of 92' are United. It's important that we keep these lads involved with the day to day running of the club and passing on the United ethos otherwise we become just another club.
We are just another club.
Not sure who this "insider" is. But sounds positive.
Are they? So you're saying we didn't exist prior 92 and we will cease to exist afterwards? No one is bigger then the club and that include the class of 92.
If FDB has been approached by Spurs, I think we can assume that LVG will be done.
Overmars and Finidi
You really do manage to miss the point pretty much every time you read something, it's actually remarkable.
What I am saying is that they are part of the continuity in what makes United what it is. They learnt what they knew from real United people with huge character and that made them the players they are. It's hugely important that they are kept around to pass on what they were taught by the club. Van Gaal is just another manager, if he can't find a way to work with them then someone else will.
Read those comments from Neville. He has gone full t0p red now.
Yep. This cringeworthy nonsense really needs to stop.
Another club? We're United and we do things the United way.
4-4-2, British Managers, The Prophetic Class of 92...its all in our DNA and to deny that would be to deny everything our club stands for. YWNA.
4-4-2, British Managers, The Prophetic Class of 92...its all in our DNA and to deny that would be to deny everything our club stands for. YWNA.
The first report regarding regarding the coaching staff came from the Netherlands, which presumably will have come from Van Gaal's camp but Ogden is also reporting it now, he doesn't piggy back on reports from other countries so pretty safe to say he's had it confirmed from the club.
I assume this is some form of sarcasm but since a lot of people bring up these points (seriously) I'll answer them anyway.
Tradition is there to be broken. We used to have all British players at one point, why did we move past that? Why didn't we stubbornly refuse to have any foreign players in the team, such was the tradition of the famous Manchester United?
Every club had the tradition of British managers up til the 90s, we only managed to maintain that until now because we had Fergie. If he'd decided to leave us in 95 or whenever we'd have gone through several foreign managers by now I'd bet. I mean Sven, Van Gaal and Hitzfeld were the leading candidates to take over in 2002, thankfully our board aren't a bunch of old fashioned xenophobes.
There is no club DNA. Just what's happened in the past. We've played 433 and 4231 plenty under Ferguson. Are you telling me all these years he's been ruining the tradition of our club?
True. Which is why I didn't have a problem with Rene and Phelan leaving, nor do I particularly want them back. We need to move on, not go back.
I disagree. Looking at our style of football, looking at that midfield, looking at how he was hanging to many of his older players and didn't seem to fully trust any of the younger ones, I'd say something has happened to Fergie. Maybe it was just age. He was still a brilliant manager, but he was left a little behind.
No, they're a part of our history, they've been great but I'm hoping they'll all move on eventually. I'd like a clean break and hope we can build a new structure for the next couple of decades. But yeah I love them as much as anyone, like the Best-Law-Charlton trinity they'll be remembered for being outstanding players...a part of our recent success. The club will continue to evolve and hopefully maintain its status...as its always done when players and managers have moved on.
They obviously aren't. No bunch of players for any club, anywhere, are the club.
They will have even more knowledge and know how to pass on in 3 or 4 years time. And even more after that. Whats the rush?
I've been saying it for a while. United haven't moved on with the times because we had an incredible manager who managed to keep the footballing side of the club connected to some older routs - often a positive thing. But now he's gone, we have to accept change is required and is inevitable. We tried to delay it with Moyes, and failed. If we don't do it now with a new manager, we'll only delay something which WILL happen. Question is how much time it will take and how much we'll have to suffer for it.
Why hold them back IF they are ready?
Totally Agree.
The legend of this club started with Busby Babes, we had Best, Law and Charlton not just the class of 92. However none of them are bigger than Manchester, they are just part of the club and its history.
What would we make this decisions on the basis of? How can we put such a giant club in their hands and take such a risk on a bunch of ex players who really have no track record or prior experience? Isn't it so much more sound a business/logical/footballing decision to let them showcase how ready they are elsewhere before letting them decide the fortunes of the entire club ? If they're so ready, well see the results wherever they prove themselves.
"in 20 years I'll tweet you back"Kids these days, eh?
Neville has acted like such an idiot since the day Fergie retired.
There's a lot of things at the club that need freshening up, that is blindingly obvious but you can't just discard everything and start again. There are elements of this club that are still great and they are what we should use as foundations to build on. Having the class of 92 involved in the coaching setup is very important in my eyes as they are a fantastic group of lads who are prefect role models to the players coming through. Everyone passing them off as inexperienced is just ridiculous, you only have to listen to the testimonies of those that have worked with and under them to get an idea of how highly thought of they are as potentially great coaches.
Look to Barcelona and Guardiola to see why you should never dismiss a coach because of his age and experience.
Someone lend Gary a comma...
Pep again. Ugh. They are being passed off as inexperienced because they ARE inexperienced.
The thing is if Moyes was the best of the bunch last summer, and he has only managed to last 10 months before failing to even get us into the top 4 let alone challenge for the title, what does Neville think will happen if it goes wrong again?
I think he's in some kind of post traumatic stress, and hasn't grasped the idea that Ferguson has actually retired or something.
Could do with some common sense too.
What is it with ex United players going full retard after their playing career? Neville is a freaking embarrassment in all that. I really hope we get LVG just to shut him up. So much bullshit spouted in such a short period of time and that on Twitter really is ridiculous.
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