United linked with van Gaal in the meeja
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He's also a coach with a fair few disastrous seasons under his belt. My abiding memory of him is looking inept as Mick McCarthy led Ireland to the WC over his Netherlands side. That's the sort of thing that puts you off a manager. Plus if anything he's further past his best at this stage.
Beyond that, his abrasive manner brings the potential for disaster. Big risk for someone who isn't really top class anymore.
Still, like I said, I can't think of anyone better. Very few top managers around.
You just named one. Let's get Mick in.
Honestly? What about SAF losing to a league one Leeds? It's one game!
Abrasive? You do remember SAF? I get it but we've had 26 years of one very abrasive individual who ruled with an iron fist.
I wonder if some of those Bayern players will be unhappy about his style of play after this. Come to United Kroos and anyone else you want to bring with you.
It was an Irish team that held it own against Portugal and only lost to Spain on pens in the finals. Back then Ireland were a hell of a lot better. Also he was really unlucky with injuries for the 2-2 draw between the sides in Holland. He was missing around 8 players if memory serves me correctly.
I'm I really the only one who thinks that Pep is overrated?
Hell I even think Moyes out coached him over 2 legs, and it was the players who let United down in their CL tie against Bayern.
Its easy to say when you have the most expensive football side ever collected on the pitch and have an 80mill Ronaldo, 85mill Bale & 21m Di Maria flanking the opposition, while we're a "winger focused team" have a laughable Valencia and Young combo, if Man Utd go out and spend 80mill per player on our flanks I'm quite sure those who want a move away from the 442 tranditionalists would happily toe the line.
Would Guardiola's cum-shy tactics really fly with the fans here?
Depends if we buy him Messi or not.
On the outside chance we don't?
What a day that was, eh? I have visions of us 1-0 down at home to Stoke with Louis throwing on his 6th centre-forward to see if will make a difference. In fairness though, Sully, you might as well peg McAteer as one of the greats as write Louis off based on that slightly mental day. Abrasion tends to dilute a little with age. Besides, a little abrasion would go a long way in our squad at the moment. I find him interesting.
True but I also seem to recall him making stupid mistakes during the game in Landsdowne Road, playing people out of position and such. My vague recollection is of watching the game and thinking he was making things worse with his substitutions.
He had 4 strikers on at the end. They did lose their shape alright.
http://www.11v11.com/matches/republic-of-ireland-v-netherlands-01-september-2001-270889/
With some perspective, Bayern are champions, having clinched their championship while going undefeated to that point, and they've bowed out 1 game before the CL final again due to shit defending on set pieces.
Well, we're not getting Carlo.
Woodward better not be on the phone to Pep either.
Woodward better not be on the phone to Pep either.
Great game alright. Stone cold penalties denied, Keane running about like a maniac and Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink on the wing.
A bit of abrasion is grand but VG can take it to extremes. More worried about results though, that second spell at Barca and his last season at Bayern should be enough to make us nervous.
I think LvG would be fine keeping Giggs on. It's just the whole bunch I assume he isn't too pleased with taking. Rightly so, in my opinion.
I've just gone through Neville's tweets. It seems he'd rather us go for Eddie Howe (Bournemouth manager) than go with a foreign coach. Everyone kept probing him for a name and he's someone he mentioned. I find his views quite odd really. I remember when Moyes was appointed as our manager and he said it was "victory for sanity". He seems like a guy stuck in his certain beliefs.
He's been like it all season but it struck me most in out 2-2 draw against Fulham. He laid no criticism on the tactics of getting it out wide and crossing, rather, I think it was him that just said were unlucky. I still like him but when it comes to United I rarely agree with him.
He's been like it all season but it struck me most in out 2-2 draw against Fulham. He laid no criticism on the tactics of getting it out wide and crossing, rather, I think it was him that just said were unlucky. I still like him but when it comes to United I rarely agree with him.
He doesn't have to keep the whole lot involved with the first team. Nicky Butt would return to his previous role, Scholes could be offered a role doing similar and Phil Neville may decide to leave anyway although a role could be found for him if he wanted to stay. There's only Giggs who really needs to be incorporated within the first team setup.
The Sun have it that Van Gaal will make RvP captain. If true it seems an odd move. Good player, but not really a captain.
EDIT: Plus it will likely upset Rooney.
EDIT: Plus it will likely upset Rooney.
I think he'd be very happy to keep Scholes. He seems to be (rightly) highly regarded in world football and only a fool would ignore him.
None of this I see as a negative. Just means we are guaranteed some super performances from RVP next year. There's not a lot of captain material in the squad anyway once the old defensive guard have gone.
RVP is an obvious choice. He is the captain of the Dutch side, a very professional player and has good relations with LVG. LVG said that the captain is very important for him and for that reason he chooses it himself (don't leave the decision to players) and give to him a lot of responsabilities.
I think that Rooney should start worrying for other things instead of it. He can easily be entirely dropped in Van Gaal's system. Especially in those cases when he gives bad performances.
Surely The Sun's journo is just guessing that? I mean, it's not exactly a stretch, is it?
I think he won't give it to either. Will probably choose Evra if he hopefully stays or Carrick. That's just my feeling based on nothing!
Being a phenomenal player doesn't make you a phenomenal coach, though. I agree with @SirFergie that a lesser role could work, but I don't think it should be some sort of prerequisite.
It's a very definite opinion to be based on nothing.
If you ever offer an opinion based on something, you'll be unbearable!
Educated guess by The Sun. He has RVP as his captain for Holland and he's one of very few candidates for us next season. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
The Mail were reporting that Rooney has doubts about Van Gaal and he would rather Giggs get the job.
Hmm seeing the doubts swirling around Van Gaal's candidature I'm surprised that Simeone's name hasn't been thrown about frequently by the media. He is a major improvement on some of Louis' perceived flaws. He's very young which could lead to a long term appointment, plays a functional counter-attacking 4-4-2 with pace, tenacity, power and emphasis on width, has a tremendous winning record - leading La Liga and in CL semi-finals on a negative budget - imagine what he'd do with the rumoured 150m warchest, could bring along Koke and Oliver Torres, has great strength of character - his players give 110 % for him like ours did for Fergie and is flavour of the season. Seems tailor made for us. Well apart from his inability to speak English. But it's a relatively easy language to grasp and he could easily pick up rudimentary training lingo over the summer hiatus. What gives ?
Hmm seeing the doubts swirling around Van Gaal's candidature I'm surprised that Simeone's name hasn't been thrown about frequently by the media. He is a major improvement on some of Louis' perceived flaws. He's very young which could lead to a long term appointment, plays a functional counter-attacking 4-4-2 with pace, tenacity, power and emphasis on width, has a tremendous winning record - leading La Liga and in CL semi-finals on a negative budget - imagine what he'd do with the rumoured 150m warchest, could bring along Koke and Oliver Torres, has great strength of character - his players give 110 % for him like ours did for Fergie and is flavour of the season. Seems tailor made for us. Well apart from his inability to speak English. But it's a relatively easy language to grasp and he could easily pick up rudimentary training lingo over the summer hiatus. What gives ?
Well you know exactly what gives, he doesn't currently speak english nor has any refference to the English game at any point of his career as a player nor a manager to date (bar being on the end of Beckhams boot once) and we're as xenophobic as they come.
I don't doubt it to be honest.Been one of Rooney's biggest supporters over the past year but definitely need to knock him off his pedestal to a certain extent.
I would worry about Giggs' ruthlessness over players he's friends with. I bet the first thing he'd do if appointed would give Rio a contract extension for example.
He drilled his brother's missus. I don't think he's given to sentimentality.
Been one of Rooney's biggest supporters over the past year but definitely need to knock him off his pedestal to a certain extent.
I would worry about Giggs' ruthlessness over players he's friends with. I bet the first thing he'd do if appointed would give Rio a contract extension for example.
From the article posted in the Rooney thread;
Does this mean if there's any chance of him being the new manager then it has to be done before the 7th?
Does this mean if there's any chance of him being the new manager then it has to be done before the 7th?
No. Just Van Gaal's preference as he wants to focus on the national team.
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