Sunak is as much of a "social climber" as I am a prominent member of the nobility.
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We must mean different things by social climber. I mean someone who is desperate to join a higher class or social group he wasn't born into and might engineer it through connections or marriage. It's not the same as social mobility, it's supposed to be slightly insulting.
Yes a man that was born into the upper middle classes and desperately climbed his way up to the upper middle classes. We’re talking about the same thing.
If you mean it as an opportunist, or an arriviste, then fair enough, although I personally disagree, as I think he was born in wealth already.
His dad was a GP his mum a pharmacist so paid enough to send kid to public school but he'd have been one of the poorer kids at Winchester I imagine. Hence his siding with the underdog Farage....
What happened to stop the woke? It seems that it is something they are all to willing to use when it works in their favour.
So who thinks sunak will still be PM come Monday? Odds quite clear that they've lost all three by elections and so the tory blood letting will be in full force over the weekend...
He will still be there, they will spin it as governments don’t win bye elections blah blah blah. Can’t see them getting rid of him.
He'll still be in.
What he might do is call an early election mind, damage limitation.
He will stay and there won’t be any energy in the calls for him to be removed because there is nobody else to take over. A complete dearth of talent and ideas. They basically need to be annihilated at the next election so they can do a bit of a reset and figure out how to get back into power.
No chance. They’re losing the next election, what they are doing right now is seeing out all the inquiries and enjoying the grift while they still can. No chance they cut that short.
Not sure about that. There was an article in the telegraph the other day about sunak calling an election early to avoid a 1997 type defeat, and it does make sense.
Which tbf means he probably won't do it.
Doctors have had a 17% pay cut in real terms since 2010, but have been told a 6% pay rise offer is final, and urged to “think of their patients”. Amazing how tories suddenly find some compassion when it suits them.
Serious bad news for Labour.
How's that serious bad news for labour? That constituency has been Tory since it's inception, surely the fact that is now even close is serious bad news for Tories rather than labour?
Clearly Labour lost due to the ULEZ policy which seems to be an anti ULEZ vote rather than for the Tories. I’m sure the Tories will be celebrating and selling this to the media tomorrow. Feckin thick Tory voters can’t tell the difference between local and National decisions. Also turnout is much lower than expected for a General election.
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Slightly misleading as the general election result few months earlier saw a 12.4% swing to Labour which resulted in a narrow Labour loss. The Tory MP who won died not long after, resulting in the bi-election which the Tories won with a bigger majority on a lower turnout. The 1997 GE result was the biggest swing to Labour the constituency ever had until 2017 when Labour got a 13.6% swing in their favour but still lost by a bigger majority than in the 1997 GE.
Point stands though that Uxbridge has been Tory forever (literally) so not winning the seat is hardly a disaster.
Tories lost to a child.
Basically these results show that although the the country wants rid of the Tories, tactical voting is clearly going to be the most important thing at the GE.
What a horrible place the UK is in though that of all the issues facing the country, a policy ULEZ, introduced originally by Cons, was the only thing campaigned on to be decisive enough to hold seat. Something that the newly elected MP is powerless to change.
Labour hold a lot of seats in London and if this is shown to be as unpopular as it's beginning to feel, they must be a little nervous how this might impact their numbers at the GE.
People are generally quite selfish, although the scheme is primarily about air pollution, the fact it's generating a lot of money will be spun in a way that it's nothing to do with air quality. Be interesting to see how Lab handle this, I don't see Khan dropping the policy as he will look weak. On the other hand Starmer needs to tread carefully on this. It needn't be an election determining factor but I get the feeling it will play a massive role in GE debates. The fact these schemes are going to increase in other areas around the UK, the right wing media will ramp up a lot of negativity and talk about this non stop now, along with climate change denial.
What a horrible place the UK is in though that of all the issues facing the country, a policy ULEZ, introduced originally by Cons, was the only thing campaigned on to be decisive enough to hold seat. Something that the newly elected MP is powerless to change.
Labour hold a lot of seats in London and if this is shown to be as unpopular as it's beginning to feel, they must be a little nervous how this might impact their numbers at the GE.
People are generally quite selfish, although the scheme is primarily about air pollution, the fact it's generating a lot of money will be spun in a way that it's nothing to do with air quality. Be interesting to see how Lab handle this, I don't see Khan dropping the policy as he will look weak. On the other hand Starmer needs to tread carefully on this. It needn't be an election determining factor but I get the feeling it will play a massive role in GE debates. The fact these schemes are going to increase in other areas around the UK, the right wing media will ramp up a lot of negativity and talk about this non stop now, along with climate change denial.
Twat. The people voted for him and Boris made 29 year old a Lord.
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He's not wrong about random inexperienced people being parachuted into constituencies they know feck all about. It applies to every major party and it should be criticised.
He fails to acknowledge that his party do the exact same thing though. Was Rishi born and raised in Yorkshire?
There was no need for the Inbetweeners jibe though and fully agree on parachuted candidates. Knowing the area, there was plenty of decent local candidates available.
Yeah was seeing this narrative that it's terrible if labour don't take Uxbridge all over Twitter last night and I'm like why exactly? It's a constituency they historically never win, the fact that it's that close is a loss for the Tories in itself. Tories just lost 2 seats and won a third by the literal skin of their teeth, they're finished.
What the Uxbridge result shows that most voters are selfish and a bit stupid. But woe betide anyone who points that's out.
Starmer is going to look at the effect of the ULEZ policy in Uxbridge and move further right
Probably a bit harsh. The ULEZ rollout right now is understandably a contentious issue when you look at the details. It was announced at a time when cost of living was spiraling and hasn't come under control, constituents were only given a 9 month warning window when previously it had been a year, and far more people own and rely on cars in that part of Greater London. Given the relatively low-impact the policy has been forecasted to have in air quality there, I get why people stayed away from the polls at the very least (although don't personally agree).
I can only imagine Uxbridge hasn't been part of the UK for the last however many years
Going from where they were in 2019 to "Well nobody expected us to win here"
Going from where they were in 2019 to "Well nobody expected us to win here"
It’s got nothing to do with him and his Government the thick Cnut. It’s an anti ULEZ vote.
We’ve had these type of anti something elections before. Labour lost one which was against the Iraq war. But come the general election, turnout increases and you can’t just rely on that anti vote so let the Tories enjoy this, it won’t last long.